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SCD 6 - still no WOW dance
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trevvytrev21
09-12-2008
Originally Posted by jill1812:
“Austin's Paso and waltz
Tom's Foxtrot and jive
Rachel's rumba and foxtrot

All wowed me!”

Ah, but were you wowed the way Zoe's Tango, Jill's Jive, or Alesha's Cha-Cha did? Zero wow dances this series, Rachel's Rumba probably comes closest.
Muggsy
09-12-2008
Austin's paso has been the only wow dance for me this series. Great theatre.
BuddyBontheNet
09-12-2008
WOW dances for me this series -

Lisa and Brendan's VW
Rachel and Vincent's Tango
Tom and Camilla's Foxtrot
Austin & Erin's Paso

I don't have a problem with 10 for any of these dances, but none of them would be my favourite version of that dance across all the series.
yohinnchild
09-12-2008
I tell a lie actually - I was Wowed in 1 dance this series and it was...

Lisa and Brendans Quickstep in the dance off...
Psychosis
09-12-2008
Originally Posted by trevvytrev21:
“For me, not a full-on WOW dance but the bit where she rested her head on his shoulder was magical.”

"Magical" was the word I said afterwards. It felt like Alesha & Matthew's VW to me, which I also find extremely underrated.
Paperbag_Writer
09-12-2008
Trouble is, we've seen a lot of efficiency this series but not a whole lot of pizzazz. I think Austin and Erin's Paso will go down in SCD history, however. I was also wowed by their Tango, and Tom and Camilla's Quickstep was great.
BuddyBontheNet
09-12-2008
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“"Magical" was the word I said afterwards. It felt like Alesha & Matthew's VW to me, which I also find extremely underrated.”

I so agree and can't wait to see them dance it again in the Christmas Special!
Psychosis
09-12-2008
They're doing the VW in the christmas special?! I thought they were doing the waltz?
BuddyBontheNet
09-12-2008
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“They're doing the VW in the christmas special?! I thought they were doing the waltz?”

I thought someone posted last night that it says on her website they are doing the VW?
jill1812
09-12-2008
Originally Posted by trevvytrev21:
“Ah, but were you wowed the way Zoe's Tango, Jill's Jive, or Alesha's Cha-Cha did? Zero wow dances this series, Rachel's Rumba probably comes closest.”

The only tango I have ever been wowed by in Strictly is James Martin's but that was because of Camilla's genius choreography and one of my favourite songs is Mein Herr. Generally I can stand the Tango

My favourite dance of Jill's is her paso and Austin's was bloody close to that for enjoyment, obviously Jill's is technically better.

The most Alesha ever wowed me was in her foxtrot and Tom's was as good as Alesha's, as was Rachel's.

Rachel's rumba was one the best dances on Strictly ever and by a country mile the best rumba.

I think Tom's as good as Jill or Alesha. But then I think Ramps and Goughie are as good as them.
Psychosis
09-12-2008
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“I thought someone posted last night that it says on her website they are doing the VW?”

I haven't looked at the website OMG

My face --->
jill1812
09-12-2008
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“"Magical" was the word I said afterwards. It felt like Alesha & Matthew's VW to me, which I also find extremely underrated.”

Alesha's VW is the best VW on Strictly. I wasn't a fan of her waltz but her VW, foxtrot and QS should have all got straight 10's, though as I just said the foxtrot is my fave!
BuddyBontheNet
09-12-2008
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“I haven't looked at the website OMG

My face ---> ”

TBH I have and can't find anything about SCD!
Veri
09-12-2008
Originally Posted by trevvytrev21:
“I think all the undeserved, Dancing With The Stars-style 10s is really taking something away from Strictly, particularly this past saturday show.

None of the dances were perfect, Tom's Foxtrot and Lisa's Waltz were the best, (judges ignored Rachel's lack of sharp head movements in her Tango, but it was still very good for what it was) but none of these deserved tens!

The moment when Jill got four 10s for her final jive was special, now 10s mean zilch.”

The same complaints about 10s have been made for years.

And it ought to be clear by now that 10 simply does not mean perfect in SCD.

If, indeed, it ever means it.

Originally Posted by water_carrier:
“I agree. I think the dishing out of 10's willy nilly (love that word ) has spoilt the show. I always thought that 10's were special and should be saved for absolute perfection and none of the dances this series have been to that standard. It's a shame really.”

When did SCD save the 10s for absolute perfection?

It's unlikely that any performance is absolutely perfect, and, besides, thinking of 10 as perfection makes dancing too much about avoiding errors and flaws.

Originally Posted by missfrankiecat:
“For me the presence or lack of 10's from the judges is neither here nor there in assessing whether a dance is a 'wow' dance. It's a dance that holds your absolute attention from beginning to end, where music, performance and technique (even if not perfect) come together to create an unforgettable performance that you want to watch again and again. This series has had two - Austin and Erin's jive and paso. I think they will be remembered long after anything else we have seen so far this series.”

I had already completely forgotten them.

I think something has been lacking this year, though in the end I'll probably remember about as many as I did from last year.
Veri
09-12-2008
Originally Posted by missfrankiecat:
“I am an A & E fan so I agree that this is a subjective assessment. However, I would suggest that the number of hits on YouTube for dances does provide some evidence of which dances most people want to watch again and again. I think you'll find rather a lot of people appear to agree with me and not you!
...”

Perhaps youtube hits would show which dances will be remembered if they're still getting hits in a few years.

Short-term popularity doesn't show it, or else every top 10 song would become a classic.
BuddyBontheNet
09-12-2008
I've been looking at old dances on YT this week for the favourite couple thread and I was amazed at how many clips were still getting comments.
Veri
09-12-2008
Originally Posted by jill1812:
“Alesha's VW is the best VW on Strictly. I wasn't a fan of her waltz but her VW, foxtrot and QS should have all got straight 10's, though as I just said the foxtrot is my fave!”

None of Alesha's dances have stuck in my memory, though they were enjoyable at the time. Perhaps their choreography wasn't interesting or distinctive enough (to me)? I don't know.

I found some of Brendan's choreography (last year) much more memorable, including the VW and Tango. I don't think he's done anything as good this year. Vincent's Tango, on the other hand, was great.
Psychosis
09-12-2008
I don't remember anything Brendan did last year at all. Except for an illegal lift
ava2007
09-12-2008
Can someone correct me if I am wrong but I thought Alesha was the only Strictly winner who never got 4 x 10's ???
jill1812
09-12-2008
Originally Posted by ava2007:
“Can someone correct me if I am wrong but I thought Alesha was the only Strictly winner who never got 4 x 10's ???”

Goughie didn't in series 3 but has done since in two xmas special.

Natasha only ever got one 10.
BuddyBontheNet
09-12-2008
Originally Posted by Veri:
“None of Alesha's dances have stuck in my memory, though they were enjoyable at the time. Perhaps their choreography wasn't interesting or distinctive enough (to me)? I don't know...”

Not even their Cha Cha to Beyonce where they started on the stage or their show dance when Alesha opened the dance with the purple dress wrapped around her like a cape (Holding Out for a Hero)?
jill1812
09-12-2008
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“Not even their Cha Cha to Beyonce where they started on the stage or their show dance when Alesha opened the dance with the purple dress wrapped around her like a cape (Holding Out for a Hero)? ”

Or the beautiful simplicity in the VW and foxtrot.
Veri
09-12-2008
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“Not even their Cha Cha to Beyonce where they started on the stage or their show dance when Alesha opened the dance with the purple dress wrapped around her like a cape (Holding Out for a Hero)? ”

No, not even that. I don't remember those dances enough to even know what "they started on the stage" is referring to.
Originally Posted by jill1812:
“Or the beautiful simplicity in the VW and foxtrot.”

Beautiful simplicity can mean nothing especially memorable to distinguish it from other beautifully simple ones (such as some we've seen this year).

The enthusiasm for Alesha was always as much about her personality as her dancing. The dancing wasn't always that good in itself.
Sid_1979
09-12-2008
Although I agree that the 10 has been over-used this series, I felt the following dances were worthy of the perfect score:

Rachel's Rhumba, Tango and Waltz.

Austin's Paso (even though it wasn't to my taste).

Tom's Foxtrot.

Lisa's Waltz.
Muggsy
09-12-2008
Originally Posted by Veri:
“No, not even that. I don't remember those dances enough to even know what "they started on the stage" is referring to.”

Blimey.

Quote:
“Beautiful simplicity can mean nothing especially memorable to distinguish it from other beautifully simple ones (such as some we've seen this year).

The enthusiasm for Alesha was always as much about her personality as her dancing.”

I find the expression of personality in dance is what makes a WOW dance.
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