Anecdotal Evidence regarding the decline of SCD 6

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Paperbag_Writer

11-12-2008

Originally Posted by nancy1975:
“The judges didn't choose Emma over Louisa, they reopened the phone lines on that first dance off, and Emma won on the public vote. However it was a foreboding of things to come.

I would certainly scrap the dance off in the last 5 or 6 weeks, if the public have the power to to save who they want to see in a final, they won't feel the need to 'point score' against the judges in voting through inferior dancers as much.”

Tbh, I'm a bit hazy about what happened back then so I'll take your word for it. I can't even remember the reasoning behind suddenly having a dance off introduced out of nowhere - it was very strange at the time, though. Not that I wish to go down the old conspiracy route. And yes, a foreboding of things to come indeed.

Paperbag_Writer

11-12-2008

Originally Posted by Veri:
“Evidence that he was very, very popular?

He's not running away with the fave couple poll.”

My use of the words "very, very popular" should have been in quotation marks, since I was using the exact wording chosen by the person to whose post I was responding.

Having said that, I do think that Austin was very popular, based on the standing ovations he's achieved on the show, the leaked and entirely feasible voting statistics that appeared a couple of weeks ago in the press, personal discussions with other viewers, etc. It's been widely accepted on this forum that Austin and Tom almost certainly have more public votes than either Lisa and Rachel, whatever the DS poll has to say. Also, "very, very popular" could imply very strong popularity among a smaller minority of people or wider popularity across the board, and there is genuine evidence from the strength of feeling about his leaving the show that Austin is hugely popular with his fanbase.

It's all anecdotal, of course, but then this particular thread is entitled "Anecdotal Evidence regarding the decline of SCD 6", and as such there seems to be a slightly freer discussion of opinions, feelings and hunches than on many threads where obviously such things are usually very quickly pounced on.

nancy1975

11-12-2008

Originally Posted by Paperbag_Writer:
“Tbh, I'm a bit hazy about what happened back then so I'll take your word for it. I can't even remember the reasoning behind suddenly having a dance off introduced out of nowhere - it was very strange at the time, though. Not that I wish to go down the old conspiracy route. And yes, a foreboding of things to come indeed.”

It was the case, and I do remember both Mark and Matt called out first and Bruce saying 'the sportsmen are through.'

Why they did it none of us could fathom at the time, especially since I don't think it changed anything anyway. The Bunton had a strong tango, and Louisa didn't do so well with the AS (damn the AS!) so I supose a few extra viewers would have been jogged to save Emma, but it might have been the same on the public vote anyway.

taxi_driving

11-12-2008

Originally Posted by Paperbag_Writer:
“My use of the words "very, very popular" should have been in quotation marks, since I was using the exact wording chosen by the person to whose post I was responding.

Having said that, I do think that Austin was very popular, based on the standing ovations he's achieved on the show, the leaked and entirely feasible voting statistics that appeared a couple of weeks ago in the press, personal discussions with other viewers, etc. It's been widely accepted on this forum that Austin and Tom almost certainly have more public votes than either Lisa and Rachel, whatever the DS poll has to say. Also, "very, very popular" could imply very strong popularity among a smaller minority of people or wider popularity across the board, and there is genuine evidence from the strength of feeling about his leaving the show that Austin is hugely popular with his fanbase.

It's all anecdotal, of course, but then this particular thread is entitled "Anecdotal Evidence regarding the decline of SCD 6", and as such there seems to be a slightly freer discussion of opinions, feelings and hunches than on many threads where obviously such things are usually very quickly pounced on.”

I felt this too, which is refreshing

Veri

12-12-2008

Originally Posted by nancy1975:
“...

I would certainly scrap the dance off in the last 5 or 6 weeks, if the public have the power to to save who they want to see in a final, they won't feel the need to 'point score' against the judges in voting through inferior dancers as much.”

Originally Posted by Veri:
“Then why did they do it before the dance-off existed?”

Originally Posted by nancy1975:
“You've always had the case of the Clarys etc making it too the latter stages, but generally speaking the public always voted for the talent in the end. I prefer the public's bias to the judges. I wouldn't have been too upset if Austin had gone out on the public vote. Just a bit of course but I could accept it a lot better.”

Do you think the public isn't voting for talent now?

Or is the dance off making them feel the need to score points against the judges by voting through inferior dancers?

Because it looks to me like the dance-off isn't having that effect and never did. Both with and without the dance-off, some inferior dancers were supported by votes, and both with and without the dance-off, that stops towards the end.

Of course, it's possible people would have kept voting for John, but that's just speculation at this point; and when he was getting votes, the dance off didn't seem to be a big reason for it.

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