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Old 10-12-2008, 00:58
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I just find it absolutely absurd that people hang on this ridiculous man's words and think "he knows what he is talking about", a man whose career as a music mogul mostly involves releasing novelty pop records like Robson & Jerome and The Woolpackers yet his words are meant to act as a barometer for what he believes will sell as "serious music".

The man is a joke, most of these "artists" from this show end up disappearing into slimy obscurity yet he is trying to make the public believe they are to be taken seriously, what a laughable man.

A well-spoken public school voice uttering such platitudes and superlatives as "that was truly horrendous", "that was atrocious, the worst song i have ever heard"(he usually uses that one about eight times during the first few weeks of auditions when the series starts) and "that was positively abysmal" does not make him seem to me like any more of an authority on the music industry than say a person with a regional voice which Pete Waterman is but Cowell seems to think he is.

I don't really care about how much money he has made either because Cowell could record people defecating messily onto a wobble board and probably sell a million copies of it, i still fail to see why this coiffured haired permatanned moron is taken seriously and his apparently witty criticisms are revered.
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:00
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No. He's a great entertainer but I don't take him seriously as a music business man.
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:03
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I just find it absolutely absurd that people hang on this ridiculous man's words and think "he knows what he is talking about", a man whose career as a music mogul mostly involves releasing novelty pop records like Robson & Jerome and The Woolpackers yet his words are meant to act as a barometer for what he believes will sell as "serious music".

The man is a joke, most of these "artists" from this show end up disappearing into slimy obscurity yet he is trying to make the public believe they are to be taken seriously, what a laughable man.

A well-spoken public school voice uttering such platitudes and superlatives as "that was truly horrendous", "that was atrocious, the worst song i have ever heard"(he usually uses that one about eight times during the first few weeks of auditions when the series starts) and "that was positively abysmal" does not make him seem to me like any more of an authority on the music industry than say a person with a regional voice which Pete Waterman is but Cowell seems to think he is.

I don't really care about how much money he has made either because Cowell could record people defecating messily onto a wobble board and probably sell a million copies of it, i still fail to see why this coiffured haired permatanned moron is taken seriously and his apparently witty criticisms are revered.
Haha.

When he first burst onto the scene as a judge, he used to be as blunt and honest as possible and people used to respect him for it, and he's been living off the back of that reputation for years now. Even though acts are still hanging on his now montonous, repetitive gestures like it actually means something constructive. He's just a shrewd businessman masquerading as some musical talent spotting genius.

I respect Dannii more so than the others, and even she offers nothing extraordinary to the judging panel.
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:04
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not anymore.
Not since hes started lying to keep his own acts in.If same difference werent his act,he would have slated them,same with Eoghan.
He seems to have lost that honesty
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:04
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He is good Tv!
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:07
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cowell is realistic he knows that theres more chance of short term success thats why he dont go big on most od his acts he keeps it small and low risk and milks it and gets out
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:09
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Haha.

When he first burst onto the scene as a judge, he used to be as blunt and honest as possible and people used to respect him for it, and he's been living off the back of that reputation for years now. Even though acts are still hanging on his now montonous, repetitive gestures like it actually means something constructive. He's just a shrewd businessman masquerading as some musical talent spotting genius.

I respect Dannii more so than the others, and even she offers nothing extraordinary to the judging panel.
I think its about time they brought a Simon Cowell In Your Pocket Keyring where there are 6 buttons you can press that will emanate a famously witty quote of his:

1) That Was Atrocious

2) That Was Possibly The Worst Song I Have Ever Heard

3) That Was Hideous

4) That Was Dreadful

5) You're Possibly The Worst Singer I Have Ever Heard

6) Its A No From Me
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:11
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not anymore.
Not since hes started lying to keep his own acts in.If same difference werent his act,he would have slated them,same with Eoghan.
He seems to have lost that honesty
That is why I have gone off him. He would have SLATED the gimmicks on stage to cover up Eoghan's weak voice if he wasn't mentoring him, and he knows it.
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:17
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Wasn't he the guy responsible for Roland Rat, or was that a rumour?
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:17
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Yeah he does seem 2 have softened up abit.

But i think you have to take a step back and think to yourself how did he get this successful and rich? I mean sure his acts havn't always been very crdible but they usually connect with the public and sell well therefore they serve a purpose.

He's played a huge part in Leona's career uptil now, which i think he deserves alot of credit for.

I personally would like to see the old 'harsh but fair' Simon back in action though.
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:18
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He's a joke, along with his stooge Louis Walsh
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:24
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He knows how to make a quick buck, that's for sure. Kudos to him for that.

Anyone who has single handedly managed to twist and turn a successful reality format to his own ends and destroy the decades-long tradition and excitement of the Christmas Number One, deserves at least some recognition as an clever person.

It doesn't necessarily make them a *good* person.

And Cowell stuck with Leona because he realised just how good she was, and the dollar signs flashed in his eyes immediately. He knew he could mold her into a star and that's what he did. He realises that a lot of people who win these shows don't have the same qualities as her.
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:28
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I like Simon on TV, but let's face it, his contribution to popular music is rubbish. He's a successful business person who's made a little go a long way, but when they listen back to the music of the late 20th and early 21st century, I don't think many Simon Cowell acts will be featured.

I can't help but wonder if somewhere hidden deep inside his brain, perhaps late at night, when he has had his last cigarette of the evening, and polished his teeth, laid down on his black satin sheets and pulled his tiger print quilt up around his chin, does a little thought pop into his mind, a secret desire or hankering, to one day be associated with a record that has musical credibility.
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:28
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In a word of no. How can you with that army haircut and cheesy grin?
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:30
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See despite all this stuff about making a quick amount of bucks, what he is doing is the equivalent of him sending a massive truck to your house and it dumping a pile of steaming human effluence on your front doorstep and Cowell sending you a picture of himself swimming naked in a pool of pound notes Scrooge McDuck-style with the words "WISH YOU WERE HERE LOSER!" written on the back.
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:36
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He knows how to make a quick buck, that's for sure. Kudos to him for that.

Anyone who has single handedly managed to twist and turn a successful reality format to his own ends and destroy the decades-long tradition and excitement of the Christmas Number One, deserves at least some recognition as an clever person.

It doesn't necessarily make them a *good* person.

And Cowell stuck with Leona because he realised just how good she was, and the dollar signs flashed in his eyes immediately. He knew he could mold her into a star and that's what he did. He realises that a lot of people who win these shows don't have the same qualities as her.

Leona and the X Factor was a match made in heaven. First of all, I'm not a Leona fan, I think she's a talented vocalist, but find her a little dreary for my taste.

But I still believe that Leona was planted on the XF to launch her, it gave the show a great voice, and it gave Leona a story without which I don't believe the public would have taken to her. Anyone who can sing like she can given the right material should be able to have a hit, but the difference between having a hit and having a career or successful albums is having publicity and being launched on the public consciousness. Whilst she's undoubtedly a nice girl, was she exciting or dynamic enough to engage the public interest? My answer would be no, I accept other's feel differently!

So a good match, planting Leona on the show and using it as a vehicle to launch her gave her the publicity needed to launch her, and gave the show a girl with a vocal talent good enough to have some decent sized hits around the world.
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:40
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You can't trust Simon Cowell.
He told Ryan Seacrest on the radio that 60% of the UK watched X-Factor when Britney was on. That's about 40million people!
He'd be lucky to get a third of that.
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:44
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Leona and the X Factor was a match made in heaven. First of all, I'm not a Leona fan, I think she's a talented vocalist, but find her a little dreary for my taste.

But I still believe that Leona was planted on the XF to launch her, it gave the show a great voice, and it gave Leona a story without which I don't believe the public would have taken to her. Anyone who can sing like she can given the right material should be able to have a hit, but the difference between having a hit and having a career or successful albums is having publicity and being launched on the public consciousness. Whilst she's undoubtedly a nice girl, was she exciting or dynamic enough to engage the public interest? My answer would be no, I accept other's feel differently!

So a good match, planting Leona on the show and using it as a vehicle to launch her gave her the publicity needed to launch her, and gave the show a girl with a vocal talent good enough to have some decent sized hits around the world.

I think its a massive compliment to Leona that people think that she was planted on the show.

However you choose to look at it she got the most votes and the GBP really seem to have taken to her. I disagree that Leona is dreary. Im assuming you are reffering to her personality/persona. I personally think that there is room in the industry for a nice normal girl who is truely grateful for the oppurtunity she has been given. She is a much better role model than the likes of Winehouse and Britney thats for sure!
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:44
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You know whats scary, Simon Cowell makes so much money from this show and music that he could eventually acquire nuclear weapons and bring about the Fourth Reich, his twisted vision of a world where the only people left are him and people who can sing adequately.
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Old 10-12-2008, 02:06
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not anymore.
Not since hes started lying to keep his own acts in.If same difference werent his act,he would have slated them,same with Eoghan.
He seems to have lost that honesty
Absolutely true
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Old 10-12-2008, 02:09
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You can't trust Simon Cowell.
He told Ryan Seacrest on the radio that 60% of the UK watched X-Factor when Britney was on. That's about 40million people!
He'd be lucky to get a third of that.
I think he meant 60% of the viewing audience.
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Old 10-12-2008, 02:34
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I think its about time they brought a Simon Cowell In Your Pocket Keyring where there are 6 buttons you can press that will emanate a famously witty quote of his:

1) That Was Atrocious

2) That Was Possibly The Worst Song I Have Ever Heard

3) That Was Hideous

4) That Was Dreadful

5) You're Possibly The Worst Singer I Have Ever Heard

6) Its A No From Me
I was just about to say what you said in the first paragraph but then noticed you had already said in.

Cowell in your Pocket
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Old 10-12-2008, 02:40
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He is a joke. He desperately wants to cash in on High School Musical and seems blind to real talent on the show.

There is no way Ruth should have been voted out ahead of Owen. Even when she sang a blinder in her first sing off, Purple Rain, he bottled it and let it go to the public vote to add drama. I believe, and always have done, that was a wimp decision to make and that the judges known the results before they even take to their seats on the results show. He said, from the start, it would be based on the sing off and then he bottled out of keeping to his own rules and went to the public vote.

Leona didn't have the X factor. She was dreary and nothing out of the ordinary. We have her style in the Mariah's of this world. We don't need clones singing karaoke. I was under the impression they were out hunting for someone who had the the X *wow* factor. Not yodelling freaks and Disney wannabes.


He is a joke and obsessed with High school Musical. (Same Difference, Owen) His acts were a joke from the moment he mentioned them. There were stronger singers in his category.


He is a joke. He swings with public opinion. He sees dollar signs in trying to re-create American crap. (High School Musical)
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Old 10-12-2008, 02:53
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However you choose to look at it she got the most votes

Did she? Or were the votes rigged?

I thought she was a great singer but nothing special, new, different or ground breaking. At best she was good at singing karaoke. I thought this show was about finding someone with that X (tra) Factor?! Not signing someone who'd already attended professional singing lessons, won awards and released CD's before they were famous.

I think real music isn't manufactured anyway. Do any of the finalists write songs or play a musical instrument? I think that is the X Factor of the future. All this show really is, until then, is a glorified karaoke that you can hear every Friday night, across the nation, in your local pub.
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