I HATE N-Dubz!!
N-dubz
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Originally Posted by Carmen Queasy:
“Just another one of these chavvy bands who got lucky...”
“Just another one of these chavvy bands who got lucky...”
Such a narrow minded and ignorant point of view.
Originally Posted by TomDaOne:
“Such a narrow minded and ignorant point of view.”
“Such a narrow minded and ignorant point of view.”
It's clear who their target audience is. Panic At The Disco are targeted towards the "emo" subculture. Bands like N Dubz are targeted towards the "chav" subculture.
Didn't they start off as some kind of "Crew"?
They're the equivilent of all these American rappers who got lucky because they know someone in the industry.
Originally Posted by Carmen Queasy:
“It's clear who their target audience is.
Didn't they start off as some kind of "Crew"?
They're the equivilent of all these American rappers who got lucky because they know someone in the industry.”
“It's clear who their target audience is.
Didn't they start off as some kind of "Crew"?
They're the equivilent of all these American rappers who got lucky because they know someone in the industry.”
Like who?
Originally Posted by TomDaOne:
“Like who?”
“Like who?”
I mean in the sense of talentless dribble being signed because they'll sell to a specific audience. It's not just rap and "chav" music. It happens across most genres.
I doubt this group will be around for long. Not commercially, anyway. They're disposable products.
To everyone lucky enough not to have heard N-Dubz yet, just imagine the most chavvy music you have ever heard. Well, it's nothing compared to how chavvy N-Dubz's music and image is. 
Originally Posted by Carmen Queasy:
“I mean in the sense of talentless dribble being signed because they'll sell to a specific audience. It's not just rap and "chav" music. It happens across most genres.
I doubt this group will be around for long. Not commercially, anyway. They're disposable products.”
“I mean in the sense of talentless dribble being signed because they'll sell to a specific audience. It's not just rap and "chav" music. It happens across most genres.
I doubt this group will be around for long. Not commercially, anyway. They're disposable products.”
Avoiding the question, probably because you can't back up what you said. I like a lot of American rappers and british ones too, they are all talented (some more so than others).
Originally Posted by TomDaOne:
“Avoiding the question, probably because you can't back up what you said. I like a lot of American rappers and british ones too, they are all talented (some more so than others).”
“Avoiding the question, probably because you can't back up what you said. I like a lot of American rappers and british ones too, they are all talented (some more so than others).”
Why are you wanting an argument?!
I'm sure I could search Wikipedia for American rappers and see how they became famous. I don't know their names, but you see them in the press with popular rappers, or appearing in their videos... then a few months later they have a record contract. It's a very "who you know" industry, of course.
I am not denying that there are talented rappers from both sides of the pond, but in the case of N Dubz, they're not.
N-dubz rule. A lot of people don't like them because they don't like rapping. I think everything needs a chance, i hated them at 1st, now i love them!
Originally Posted by LloydChristmas:
“Especially the music? Yes I would say that's an important component to a band.
Anyway, no, they're rubbish. That over-sincere moany lyrics, oh and "I never knew I loved you 'til you was dead"? Missed the English lession where they tought you the difference between 'was' and 'were', did you?
Get out.”
“Especially the music? Yes I would say that's an important component to a band.
Anyway, no, they're rubbish. That over-sincere moany lyrics, oh and "I never knew I loved you 'til you was dead"? Missed the English lession where they tought you the difference between 'was' and 'were', did you?
Get out.”
Being ironic?
There good but underated there albums good not great mainly it's full of songs from past but this is there first album I think with the write producers there next album could be better
Originally Posted by cybergirl3:
“Some guy from Ndubz was on Never Mind the buzzcocks a few weeks ago. They played a clip of their music and they lost me at some line about "Shanequa and what".”
“Some guy from Ndubz was on Never Mind the buzzcocks a few weeks ago. They played a clip of their music and they lost me at some line about "Shanequa and what".”
Funnily enough, on that exact show, he explained it! And I hadn't heard it before either.
Originally Posted by Carmen Queasy:
“I mean in the sense of talentless dribble being signed because they'll sell to a specific audience. It's not just rap and "chav" music. It happens across most genres.
I doubt this group will be around for long. Not commercially, anyway. They're disposable products.”
“I mean in the sense of talentless dribble being signed because they'll sell to a specific audience. It's not just rap and "chav" music. It happens across most genres.
I doubt this group will be around for long. Not commercially, anyway. They're disposable products.”
N-Dubz were formed in 2000, and released their first single in 2006, which peaked at #141. The next few singles weren't in the Top 40 either until recently, yet they still carried out their work and progress. I don't think N-Dubz is just a "disposable product", used to just to sell to a specific audience, or because of other popular artists in the similar genre. It doesn't really have commercial success either, more like cult status.
Groups like H20 or Basshunter are just there for the reasons you stated though.
This music is beyond poor; I'm not sure if there's a superlative to describe how bad it actually is.
"Names's Biffo and WOT"
That line there tells me all I need to know.. it's just chav bollocks, like that bloody Lady Sovereign.
"Names's Biffo and WOT"
That line there tells me all I need to know.. it's just chav bollocks, like that bloody Lady Sovereign.
I first heard them years ago and thought they were a joke band.
I still can't believe that they're actually serious. What is all that about with his mum in the music video with the shades on? Cringeworthy stuff.
They're like a rap equivelent of Spinal Tap.
I still can't believe that they're actually serious. What is all that about with his mum in the music video with the shades on? Cringeworthy stuff.
They're like a rap equivelent of Spinal Tap.
Originally Posted by Carmen Queasy:
“Why are you wanting an argument?!
I'm sure I could search Wikipedia for American rappers and see how they became famous. I don't know their names, but you see them in the press with popular rappers, or appearing in their videos... then a few months later they have a record contract. It's a very "who you know" industry, of course.
I am not denying that there are talented rappers from both sides of the pond, but in the case of N Dubz, they're not.”
“Why are you wanting an argument?!
I'm sure I could search Wikipedia for American rappers and see how they became famous. I don't know their names, but you see them in the press with popular rappers, or appearing in their videos... then a few months later they have a record contract. It's a very "who you know" industry, of course.
I am not denying that there are talented rappers from both sides of the pond, but in the case of N Dubz, they're not.”
Well I rarely watch music videos so I'll have to take your word for that theory I guess, or not.
Regarding these rappers you apparently see in their more popular "musical peers" videos. How would you know when they got given a record contract? Yeah they might bring out one of their own songs a few months after a video appearance. But they would have had to work on recording the track and maybe and album long before then (all while having the record contract). That is something they might even have been doing while appearing in there mates video. They also may have been on the underground for a few years and just awaiting their big break.
I feel there is quite a bit of talent within N-dubz myself, but its just a matter of opinion at the end of the day.
Originally Posted by Gulftastic:
“At least they ain't the Blackout Crew............”
“At least they ain't the Blackout Crew............”
Oh god now they are shit!
I saw one of their video's on the Box. It looked like a day out from the young offenders insititute
To be honest to compare crud like 'N Dubz' to proper rappers is insulting. They are probably the S Club of the urban music scene. Pure tosh.
Originally Posted by TomDaOne:
“Well I rarely watch music videos so I'll have to take your word for that theory I guess, or not.
Regarding these rappers you apparently see in their more popular "musical peers" videos. How would you know when they got given a record contract? Yeah they might bring out one of their own songs a few months after a video appearance. But they would have had to work on recording the track and maybe and album long before then (all while having the record contract). That is something they might even have been doing while appearing in there mates video. They also may have been on the underground for a few years and just awaiting their big break.
I feel there is quite a bit of talent within N-dubz myself, but its just a matter of opinion at the end of the day.”
“Well I rarely watch music videos so I'll have to take your word for that theory I guess, or not.
Regarding these rappers you apparently see in their more popular "musical peers" videos. How would you know when they got given a record contract? Yeah they might bring out one of their own songs a few months after a video appearance. But they would have had to work on recording the track and maybe and album long before then (all while having the record contract). That is something they might even have been doing while appearing in there mates video. They also may have been on the underground for a few years and just awaiting their big break.
I feel there is quite a bit of talent within N-dubz myself, but its just a matter of opinion at the end of the day.”
They probably have came from 'underground', but there's thousands of them and some of them just get lucky because they know someone else in the business.
Rap music, at the moment, is pretty terrible. I'm not a fan of the genre but it seems that all they do is get a catchy chorus (usually female or a heightened pitch) and then put some average, cliché lyrics over a beat which could have been made on eJay.
As for N Dubz, I think moonbaby sums it up perfectly. The S Club 7 of the urban scene.
Well all there singles have not entered the top 10 as of yet even there album flopped they need new writer producers if they wanna survive this industry
Originally Posted by moonbaby:
“To be honest to compare crud like 'N Dubz' to proper rappers is insulting. They are probably the S Club of the urban music scene. Pure tosh.”
“To be honest to compare crud like 'N Dubz' to proper rappers is insulting. They are probably the S Club of the urban music scene. Pure tosh.”
They aren't manufactured, they don't have their careers and success all waiting for them just like in front of their very eyes, effortlessly, with their own worldwide TV series, used to launch them of from. This was the group that was managed by the same people as the Spice Girls, which was again another group that from nowhere to everywhere.
N-Dubz have been around for while, and have only recently found wider success. They are hardly S Club. They're music may be tosh, but it isn't to the same extent. It seems like it is easy to distinguish manufactured pop to bubblegum, teeniebop, rock-pop, etc... yet when it comes to R&B or Hip Hop, they all get rolled into one, with big generalisations being made.
I think the reference was more in line with the music they produce rather than their origins.
S Club 7 were somewhere near the bottom of the pile for good music in the pop scene.
S Club 7 were somewhere near the bottom of the pile for good music in the pop scene.
Originally Posted by Carmen Queasy:
“They probably have came from 'underground', but there's thousands of them and some of them just get lucky because they know someone else in the business.
Rap music, at the moment, is pretty terrible. I'm not a fan of the genre but it seems that all they do is get a catchy chorus (usually female or a heightened pitch) and then put some average, cliché lyrics over a beat which could have been made on eJay.
As for N Dubz, I think moonbaby sums it up perfectly. The S Club 7 of the urban scene.”
“They probably have came from 'underground', but there's thousands of them and some of them just get lucky because they know someone else in the business.
Rap music, at the moment, is pretty terrible. I'm not a fan of the genre but it seems that all they do is get a catchy chorus (usually female or a heightened pitch) and then put some average, cliché lyrics over a beat which could have been made on eJay.
As for N Dubz, I think moonbaby sums it up perfectly. The S Club 7 of the urban scene.”
You say your not a fan of the genre and clearly your not, hence your misinformed and narrow minded point of view. I expect the only "Rap" you have come across is indeed only what you might have heard on the Radio or seen in a music video. I don't know that many rap songs with a chorus that uses a heightened pitch myself, I can think of a few but not many.
Originally Posted by Moloko:
“They aren't manufactured, they don't have their careers and success all waiting for them just like in front of their very eyes, effortlessly, with their own worldwide TV series, used to launch them of from. This was the group that was managed by the same people as the Spice Girls, which was again another group that from nowhere to everywhere.
N-Dubz have been around for while, and have only recently found wider success. They are hardly S Club. They're music may be tosh, but it isn't to the same extent. It seems like it is easy to distinguish manufactured pop to bubblegum, teeniebop, rock-pop, etc... yet when it comes to R&B or Hip Hop, they all get rolled into one, with big generalisations being made.”
“They aren't manufactured, they don't have their careers and success all waiting for them just like in front of their very eyes, effortlessly, with their own worldwide TV series, used to launch them of from. This was the group that was managed by the same people as the Spice Girls, which was again another group that from nowhere to everywhere.
N-Dubz have been around for while, and have only recently found wider success. They are hardly S Club. They're music may be tosh, but it isn't to the same extent. It seems like it is easy to distinguish manufactured pop to bubblegum, teeniebop, rock-pop, etc... yet when it comes to R&B or Hip Hop, they all get rolled into one, with big generalisations being made.”
^Very good point well said.
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