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Brendan, instead of all the parties and clebrity chasing, why not learn the AT??
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reginald1981
13-12-2008
Why not learn it the year it was introduced into SCD?
tutti_frutti_79
13-12-2008
Originally Posted by reginald1981:
“Why not learn it the year it was introduced into SCD?”

Exactly, you would presume that you would have to dance it at some point so learn it.
Liz G-S
13-12-2008
And Brendan did learn it, I actually liked Lisa and Brendan's the best. It was less complicated than Vincent's put I loved the presentation. Lisa was fantastic in the acting of it.
Paace
13-12-2008
Originally Posted by Puffle:
“Perhaps, going on past years partners with the exception of series 1, he didn't think he'd need to learn it?

Matthew Cutler and Camilla didn't have lessons before the competition last year so it's not as if it's only Brendan that hasn't bothered!”

Yes but these are supposed to be Professional dancers with nothing else to do but be the best at dancing. I find it laughable that a dance Professional after 20 or more years dancing has not mastered all dances.
tutti_frutti_79
14-12-2008
Originally Posted by Paace:
“Yes but these are supposed to be Professional dancers with nothing else to do but be the best at dancing. I find it laughable that a dance Professional after 20 or more years dancing has not mastered all dances.”

Perhaps, he doesn't take his dancing career that seriously any more. Now that he has been on The Underdog show and that Love Island thingy does he need dancing?!?
bluebell smile
14-12-2008
Another Brendan bashing thread.

Perhaps one of the Brendan bashers will start a thread about what each of the pro dancers do to make money when strictly is off air.

I've yet to see a thread about camilla's participation in the Underdog show or Anton's captionship in The Hole In the Wall.

Double standards once again prevail
xcarlax
14-12-2008
Originally Posted by bluebell smile:
“Another Brendan bashing thread.

Perhaps one of the Brendan bashers will start a thread about what each of the pro dancers do to make money when strictly is off air.

I've yet to see a thread about camilla's participation in the Underdog show or Anton's captionship in The Hole In the Wall.

Double standards once again prevail”

i find it quite laughable, some people really get riled up ways too easily about a television personality .. someone they have never met .. pretty embarrassing really

as for the AT thing .. i seem to remember there wasn't any uproar when camilla was saying she didn't know the AT .. but of course .. thats because it's not brendan
Vivacious Lady
14-12-2008
Well I contributed to this thread and wasn't Brendan bashing at all. I'm genuinely puzzled when any professional dancer says they haven't danced the AT or salsa, which are very popular dances nowadays. Several professionals have said they haven't done these dances (not just Brendan). However, even I've had a go at these dances. Maybe learning extra dances in your spare time would be like choosing to work overtime, I guess.
Nicky_nic
14-12-2008
But every pro dancer is an expert at a particualr type of dance, therefor they're at an advantage the week they dance it on SCD? How that different to V being an expert in the AT? Give Vincent a break
MACTOWIN
14-12-2008
Originally Posted by xcarlax:
“i find it quite laughable, some people really get riled up ways too easily about a television personality .. someone they have never met .. pretty embarrassing really

as for the AT thing .. i seem to remember there wasn't any uproar when camilla was saying she didn't know the AT .. but of course .. thats because it's not brendan”

100% Correct.
xcarlax
14-12-2008
Originally Posted by Nicky_nic:
“But every pro dancer is an expert at a particualr type of dance, therefor they're at an advantage the week they dance it on SCD? How that different to V being an expert in the AT? Give Vincent a break”

not so much a singular dance ... most are pro at either latin or ballroom, whereas for vincent and flavia are world champions at AT .. so in theory there is noone better
tutti_frutti_79
14-12-2008
Originally Posted by bluebell smile:
“Another Brendan bashing thread.

Perhaps one of the Brendan bashers will start a thread about what each of the pro dancers do to make money when strictly is off air.

I've yet to see a thread about camilla's participation in the Underdog show or Anton's captionship in The Hole In the Wall.

Double standards once again prevail”


No, not at all. If any of the other dancers complained as much as Brendan did about him not ever dancing the AT then I would be having a go at them. Brendan knew it was coming so only has himself to blame.
tutti_frutti_79
14-12-2008
Originally Posted by Nicky_nic:
“But every pro dancer is an expert at a particualr type of dance, therefor they're at an advantage the week they dance it on SCD? How that different to V being an expert in the AT? Give Vincent a break”


Thank you.
jill1812
14-12-2008
Originally Posted by xcarlax:
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as for the AT thing .. i seem to remember there wasn't any uproar when camilla was saying she didn't know the AT .. but of course .. thats because it's not brendan”

Because Camilla said it once and dropped it, as Matthew did last year, they didn't bleat on all flaming week about not knowing it. Personally thought Tom and Camilla's was better than Lisa and Brendan's.
jill1812
14-12-2008
Originally Posted by xcarlax:
“not so much a singular dance ... most are pro at either latin or ballroom, whereas for vincent and flavia are world champions at AT .. so in theory there is noone better”

But certain pro's are known for particular dances but it doesn't generally help the celebrity much if the dance doesn't suit them - Lillia's a latin pro who best partner have excelled at ballroom.

On the AT isn't Matt & Flavia's one of the lowest, if not the lowest over the three series the AT has been done?
hiua6c
14-12-2008
Originally Posted by tutti_frutti_79:
“No, not at all. If any of the other dancers complained as much as Brendan did about him not ever dancing the AT then I would be having a go at them. Brendan knew it was coming so only has himself to blame.”

He mentioned it on ITT on Tuesday and made joke of it pretending to hide behind Lisa! In the end he produced a very credible AT

As for his off SCD activities the main is DWS NZ but we all have to live

I wonder if Anton, Erin, Ola, James et al who have never had to dance it in a final (V&F the exception) know how to do it.

I agree that if this was any other pro we wouldn't be having this thread (I can't believe I even joined in I promised I was over doing this)
DavidJames
15-12-2008
Originally Posted by Puffle:
“Perhaps, going on past years partners with the exception of series 1, he didn't think he'd need to learn it?”

So, you're saying basically he didn't want to win that much?

If so, why all the storming-off when he gets bad marks? Surely you're not saying he's a hypocrite?
DavidJames
15-12-2008
Originally Posted by xcarlax:
“whatever you say the fact remains vincent has an advantage, plain and similar ... he's the world champion at AT!”

No, he's not.
Puffle
15-12-2008
Originally Posted by DavidJames:
“So, you're saying basically he didn't want to win that much?

If so, why all the storming-off when he gets bad marks? Surely you're not saying he's a hypocrite? ”

I never said that at all - please don't put words into my mouth!

In previous years his partners haven't had the ability to go as far in the competition as Kelly did last year and Lisa has this year. Let's face it - within minutes of starting practice with Fiona Phillips, Brendan would have known he was unlikely to be dancing most of the dances that year, same with Claire King - she was reasonable but there wasn't a cat in hells chance she'd make it to the semi- final.
diyqueen
15-12-2008
Originally Posted by xcarlax:
“i find it quite laughable, some people really get riled up ways too easily about a television personality .. someone they have never met .. pretty embarrassing really

as for the AT thing .. i seem to remember there wasn't any uproar when camilla was saying she didn't know the AT .. but of course .. thats because it's not brendan”

I agree and james went on about how he didn't know the salsa so what.
IvanIV
15-12-2008
Originally Posted by tutti_frutti_79:
“Have I mentioned him being nervous?? NO. I just think that he should not manipulate the public by saying he has nevr danced it before as that is nobodys fault but his.”

Everybody else does. It's just sob stories how they do not want to go now and how much they trained.
DavidJames
15-12-2008
Originally Posted by Puffle:
“I never said that at all - please don't put words into my mouth!”

That was the implication of your statement - that Brendan didn't expect to do well enough to need to learn it.

So my question is, if you think he had such low expectations generally, how can you explain why he made such a fuss about poor marking? And also, why he's been generally seen as Mr Competitive?

Can you see the contradiction I'm highlighting?

So the question remains - why didn't he take a single AT class over the past 3 years?
bridgerton
15-12-2008
Originally Posted by DavidJames:
“That was the implication of your statement - that Brendan didn't expect to do well enough to need to learn it.

So my question is, if you think he had such low expectations generally, how can you explain why he made such a fuss about poor marking? And also, why he's been generally seen as Mr Competitive?

Can you see the contradiction I'm highlighting?

So the question remains - why didn't he take a single AT class over the past 3 years?”

How do we know for sure that he hasn't? I believe Brendan said he'd never done this dance before. Whether I completely believe him, I'm not sure...these things are often said for effect.
ESPIONdansant
15-12-2008
His AT was very competent.
No point him becoming a Vinthenth when his sleb partner isn't capable of matching him.
I think he is a bit of a perfectionist and always thinks he can do better. He's no dancing slouch. Methinks he just gets frustrated when he (and I think he's hard on himself) doesn't do as well as he'd like.

Not that I like the fellow.
welwynrose
15-12-2008
Originally Posted by DavidJames:
“That was the implication of your statement - that Brendan didn't expect to do well enough to need to learn it.

So my question is, if you think he had such low expectations generally, how can you explain why he made such a fuss about poor marking? And also, why he's been generally seen as Mr Competitive?

Can you see the contradiction I'm highlighting?

So the question remains - why didn't he take a single AT class over the past 3 years?”

maybe we can ask all the professional whether they have also taken lessons? Have Camilla & Matthew done further training since last year just in case what about Anton?
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