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Voting Figures Released by ITV
Quizmike
16-12-2008
In case you didn't know ITV have released the voting figures for the latest series of both X-Factor and I'm a Celeb.

X Factor here...

http://xfactor.itv.com/stories/story...tem_100567.htm

IACGMOOH here...

http://www.itv.com/Entertainment/cel...s/default.html

They make interesting reading especially to see how the "leaderboard" changed throughout the series.

This is the first time that ITV have released the figures for either show.

My guess is that due to new transparacy regulations we might see something similar for Strictly at the end of the series.
beanbean
16-12-2008
Looking at the votes for IACGMOH it was always pritty obvious that Joe would win as his votes were consistently high whereas Alex in x factor rarely topped the vote.
Will be VERY interesting to find out the votes for strictly expecially as there is a dance off all the way through. I wonder how many times the judges have voted out the person whos done quite well in the public vote.
SCD-Observer
16-12-2008
Originally Posted by beanbean:
“Looking at the votes for IACGMOH it was always pritty obvious that Joe would win as his votes were consistently high whereas Alex in x factor rarely topped the vote.
Will be VERY interesting to find out the votes for strictly expecially as there is a dance off all the way through. I wonder how many times the judges have voted out the person whos done quite well in the public vote.”

That would indeed be interesting! But I agree, it should be done AFTER the final of Strictly. Don't want to stress the finalists as if they don't have enough stress already.
Kez100
16-12-2008
Be interesting if they do. We can all audit them. After all, if they couldn't work out there was a mathematical problem last week I wonder if they managed to add the judges score to the public score correctly in the normal weeks!
swnymor1963
16-12-2008
These results were posted by myself and others over the weekend.......much to my amazement know one seemed that bothered....one poster even suggesting that you could not compare an x-factor voter with a SCD voter....well what makes these results even more interesting is that over half the votes cast for the entire run of this years x-factor were made on the night of the final.....over 8 million of them....That tells me that there are an awful lot of neutral, final night voters out there.....and IMO that means that anyone of the 3 finalists could win.The winner of the x-factor came from nowhere to take the title...where as one contestant topped the vote by a considerable margin on 6 occasions only to finish 3rd in the final..........Oh.....and it has been rumoured that the only time Leona Lewis topped the vote in the X-factor 2 years ago was at the final count....just when it mattered...so sometimes the best singers/Dances snatch victory at the very last hurdle.Hopefully the same will happen on Saturday.
RichmondBlue
17-12-2008
Yes, it is difficult to predict the public vote.
I did have a bet on Alex to win after Ruth was knocked out, I figured Alex would pick up most of Ruth's votes.
Seems I was wrong looking at those figures..still, I won in the end.
If there are a lot of new voters for the final, it will be important to find a routine with the "wow" factor..something that has been missing from this series, with one or two exceptions.
thenetworkbabe
17-12-2008
Originally Posted by Quizmike:
“In case you didn't know ITV have released the voting figures for the latest series of both X-Factor and I'm a Celeb.

X Factor here...

http://xfactor.itv.com/stories/story...tem_100567.htm

IACGMOOH here...

http://www.itv.com/Entertainment/cel...s/default.html

They make interesting reading especially to see how the "leaderboard" changed throughout the series.

This is the first time that ITV have released the figures for either show.

My guess is that due to new transparacy regulations we might see something similar for Strictly at the end of the series.”

Doubt it. It doesn't really matter if someone on X factor had 301 votes because he won't have a career anyway. If Diana comes fourth it doesn't matter if you sell her as too modern for the X factor fans - it adds credibility.

SCD is different as you are dealing with celebs with careers and not having people vote for you could damage your career and chances of developing it. If everyone is going to find out how few people voted for you the risks of going on the show would put many sane people off and they seem to have trouble finding the right people now. Having said that the same argument applies to IAC except that the IAC this year were lesser celebs or had nothing to lose.

Its also misleading as the numbers of voters go up and the number of contestants go down which inflates the figures for those who stay relative to those who go.You also get the X factor fudge at the end when the final vote is show as the percentage of the vote for the last two which suggests Alex has say 55% support wheras in fact if you had all twelve in the final 30% support might be nearer the mark. You could become known as the SCD dancer person only 1000 people voted for compared to 2 million for the winner when you actually were not that far behind everyone else in the week you went out.
Fatima502
17-12-2008
The BBC must now do this for SCD. It is fascinating.

swnymor1963, is there a correlation between those performing first and last and those getting the highest / lowest votes.

It seems going first is always a disadvantage, with that act almost always ending up in the bottom two while the last to go is "safe" or gets most votes. Now we can see if that is true.
taxi_driving
17-12-2008
Originally Posted by Quizmike:
“In case you didn't know ITV have released the voting figures for the latest series of both X-Factor and I'm a Celeb.

X Factor here...

http://xfactor.itv.com/stories/story...tem_100567.htm

IACGMOOH here...

http://www.itv.com/Entertainment/cel...s/default.html

They make interesting reading especially to see how the "leaderboard" changed throughout the series.

This is the first time that ITV have released the figures for either show.

My guess is that due to new transparacy regulations we might see something similar for Strictly at the end of the series.”


Many thanks for that, really interesting.

Hope we get it for SCD.
swnymor1963
17-12-2008
Originally Posted by Fatima502:
“The BBC must now do this for SCD. It is fascinating.

swnymor1963, is there a correlation between those performing first and last and those getting the highest / lowest votes.

It seems going first is always a disadvantage, with that act almost always ending up in the bottom two while the last to go is "safe" or gets most votes. Now we can see if that is true.”

I had a very quick scan through the posts on the x-factor thread on Sunday and I did notice that someone had asked this very same question.....there were a few posts suggesting that as a general rule appearing first on the show resulted in a lower % vote......there was the odd notable exception though......but I`am sure the true x-factor devotee`s will have analysed these results in detail and they will be able answer your question......imagine if the BBC release the voting % for SCD this would give us something to discuss and argue over for months
CaptainSensible
17-12-2008
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“That would indeed be interesting! But I agree, it should be done AFTER the final of Strictly. Don't want to stress the finalists as if they don't have enough stress already.”

These figures will never be released during the a show's run (unless they are leaked) regardless of whether it is SCD, The X-factor, or I'm a Celeb.

If they were released with the permission of the producers, then it wouldn't be possible (would not be allowed) to place bets on the end result etc. as people would start voting tactically and the figures from each week would have a huge influence on how people voted during the following week (and some people would stop voting for a couple if they saw how few votes they were getting, or save money by not voting for a couple that is way in the lead = that couple losing votes and possibly not being in the lead anymore).

There is no reason why they can't be released after the show though, and it's a good way of maintaining interest in a show after it has finished.
reginald1981
17-12-2008
Personally I found it fascinating and well done for ITV for doing it. I pay for the BBC and demand they do it too......will they listen will they *******
reginald1981
17-12-2008
Originally Posted by CaptainSensible:
“
There is no reason why they can't be released after the show though, and it's a good way of maintaining interest in a show after it has finished.”

Would it be a good idea though????

Can you imagine the hassle if for instance in a dance off one dancer has 0.02% of the vote versus 59.6% and the 0.02% stays?
reginald1981
17-12-2008
The x-factor votes were leaked and the leak seems to have been accurate....does this mean the SCD leak was correct too?
grunson
17-12-2008
Originally Posted by reginald1981:
“Would it be a good idea though????

Can you imagine the hassle if for instance in a dance off one dancer has 0.02% of the vote versus 59.6% and the 0.02% stays?”

We seem to get that hassle at the moment so we might as well have the truth.

People bang on about Lisa being in the dance off three times as evidence that she is not supported by the public. I haven't done a detailed analysis of the scores but it does look like it is quite possible for her to actually have had more public votes than her dance off opponent on all three occasions, and so the judges would actually have been saving the same one the public would have done. Without the results it is just speculation as to whether this was the case or not.

If we can't have the percentages then the public points score would at least be something.
reginald1981
17-12-2008
Originally Posted by grunson:
“We seem to get that hassle at the moment so we might as well have the truth.

People bang on about Lisa being in the dance off three times as evidence that she is not supported by the public. I haven't done a detailed analysis of the scores but it does look like it is quite possible for her to actually have had more public votes than her dance off opponent on all three occasions, and so the judges would actually have been saving the same one the public would have done. Without the results it is just speculation as to whether this was the case or not.

If we can't have the percentages then the public points score would at least be something.”

I want them released too.

I just think they won’t because they will not want the hassle.....and public calls for an end to the dance off.
katie_p
17-12-2008
I'd absolutely love it if they would release figures like that for all six series, once this series has finished. I can't see the harm in it, and some people like me would be really interested to know what the voting was like even for series that finished years ago!
CityofRoses
17-12-2008
I don't think they ever will release the figures now that there's a dance off, if someone who topped the vote still landed in the dance off and got kicked off I think a lot of people would be pissed off.
beanbean
17-12-2008
Id love to know the votes for all the series like series three when everyone thought Colin was winning the votes every week but erin blew it in the end with his showdance. I wonder if thats relaly true or was Darren Gough actually winning the votes weeks before the final?

Also i want to know once a for all was Gethin really more popular then Alesha or was she normally getting more votes then him.

They are the two things i've always wondered.

Also regarding going last being an advantage, Rachel has been last on these two last weeks and if shes lasts again in the final will be interesting to see her votes and if this relaly does effect them.
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