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Is it becoming more obvious now that the judges want Lisa to win?
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Chuh
20-12-2008
Just to add at the start - this is NOT a Lisa bashing thread, I enjoy her ballroom dances very much so don't think I'm just taking a cheap shot at her!

However, in no way was her Cha Cha worth a 40 - thus striking to me that the judges want Lisa to win by praising and awarding her marks that IMO were far too high.

So now with the current leaderboard at 3-3-1 (same as last week pretty much), is this becoming a fix for Lisa to win?

IMO, I believe Rachel and Vincent should have been awarded the 40 for the latin and in no way was Lisa and Brendan's Cha Cha in the same league as Alesha & Matthews from last year for example.

astropoet
20-12-2008
Originally Posted by Chuh:
“Just to add at the start - this is NOT a Lisa bashing thread, I enjoy her ballroom dances very much so don't think I'm just taking a cheap shot at her!

However, in no way was her Cha Cha worth a 40 - thus striking to me that the judges want Lisa to win by praising and awarding her marks that IMO were far too high.

So now with the current leaderboard at 3-3-1 (same as last week pretty much), is this becoming a fix for Lisa to win?

IMO, I believe Rachel and Vincent should have been awarded the 40 for the latin and in no way was Lisa and Brendan's Cha Cha in the same league as Alesha & Matthews from last year for example.

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I think that Craig wants Lisa to win. How can he say he marked Rachel's rhumba 9 last time because it was "lewd", then say it was less indecent this time and then give it 9 again...
xcarlax
20-12-2008
do we need more of these threads?
atynesider
20-12-2008
I think it is obvious the judges want the two girls in the final and are trying everything they can to achieve this.
Chuh
20-12-2008
Originally Posted by astropoet:
“I think that Craig wants Lisa to win. How can he say he marked Rachel's rhumba 9 last time because it was "lewd", then say it was less indecent this time and then give it 9 again...”

The way i've been watching it the past weeks, it seems Len wants Lisa to win, IMO because he seems to think she is best at Ballrom (which she is). However, what len is failing to watch is the fact she ISN'T good at Latin.

IMO, a Strictly winner should be good at both ballroom and latin and I'm sorry but Lisa doesn't fall into these categories.
Chuh
20-12-2008
Originally Posted by xcarlax:
“do we need more of these threads?”

Sorry but it is a public forum, at the time of posting I wasn't aware so many threads would have been made. if you don't agree or like the amount of threads on the matter, I guess you shouldn't really look at them ??
JoJo4
20-12-2008
I do like Lisa, but it sounds as though the judges are steering the public to vote for her rather than Tom.

I'm sure they want Rachel to win - I haven't timed it but surely the VT about Rachel was longer than the other two - and more emotion packed???
xcarlax
20-12-2008
Originally Posted by Chuh:
“Sorry but it is a public forum, at the time of posting I wasn't aware so many threads would have been made. if you don't agree or like the amount of threads on the matter, I guess you shouldn't really look at them ??”

not hard to become aware .... its called looking
Chuh
20-12-2008
Originally Posted by xcarlax:
“not hard to become aware .... its called looking”

Well, when you are making a new thread at the time of something happening, once it is posted, only then do you realise that other people have the same thoughts as you.

I'm sorry I don't have all the eyes of the internet, but enough of the personal attacks, thanks!
xcarlax
20-12-2008
Originally Posted by Chuh:
“Well, when you are making a new thread at the time of something happening, once it is posted, only then do you realise that other people have the same thoughts as you.

I'm sorry I don't have all the eyes of the internet, but enough of the personal attacks, thanks! ”

the first post is the only one containing a personal attack ...

it just gets annoying, we've had .. fixes for tom, rachel, lisa .. even bleedin john ..... tiring
musicangel
20-12-2008
God the same repeatative threads!!

she was the best dancer tonight!!
rowdyprincess
20-12-2008
Originally Posted by astropoet:
“I think that Craig wants Lisa to win. How can he say he marked Rachel's rhumba 9 last time because it was "lewd", then say it was less indecent this time and then give it 9 again...”

deffo think craigs favourite is Lisa.
moonbaby
20-12-2008
Originally Posted by xcarlax:
“not hard to become aware .... its called looking”

There is no need for rudeness like this.
Chuh
20-12-2008
Originally Posted by xcarlax:
“the first post is the only one containing a personal attack ...

it just gets annoying, we've had .. fixes for tom, rachel, lisa .. even bleedin john ..... tiring”

I'm not trying to say it's fixed for lisa to win because i simply think out of the 3 finalists, she has the least amount of public support (IMO of course).

However, I do believe if the judges were the only ones to be able to vote, they would pick Lisa and IMO I don't think she deserves it.
xcarlax
20-12-2008
Originally Posted by moonbaby:
“There is no need for rudeness like this.”

so pointing out the obvious is rude? ...
*Laura*
20-12-2008
Originally Posted by musicangel:
“God the same repeatative threads!!

she was the best dancer tonight!!”

At the moment I would say she was the second best dancer tonight. I know it's all subjective but, there was no way that CCC was worth 40. I didn't think her first dance was perfect either and, felt because it's the final they overlooked a couple of her stumbles.
puddytat
20-12-2008
Maybe they want her to win because she's the BEST dancer? Just a possibility.
xcarlax
20-12-2008
Originally Posted by Chuh:
“I'm not trying to say it's fixed for lisa to win because i simply think out of the 3 finalists, she has the least amount of public support (IMO of course).

However, I do believe if the judges were the only ones to be able to vote, they would pick Lisa and IMO I don't think she deserves it.”

your opinion is your opinion .. and i respect that .. the judges obvious have a couple in mind who they thought danced the best which is their opinion ... opinions are subjective
puddytat
20-12-2008
Originally Posted by musicangel:
“God the same repeatative threads!!

she was the best dancer tonight!!”

Totally agree. By far.
Chuh
20-12-2008
Originally Posted by puddytat:
“Maybe they want her to win because she's the BEST dancer? Just a possibility.”

To a certain extent I agree.... she is the best at BALLROOM, in no way is she the best at Latin. And if you truly believe that, then the standard of Latin this year, IMO, is poor at best.
Katenutzs
20-12-2008
I thought Rachael was better than Lisa .... but they needed to get Lisa top of the leaderboard or she would definately have gone
FluffyBunnykins
20-12-2008
In answer to the original question .. yes. I am deliberately not reading the forums tonight while I'm watching the shows. I was absolutely amazed that Lisa got perfect 10s when she stumbled so much at the beginning .. and the judges didn't even mention it. (I wasn't dreaming was I ..)
Sid_1979
20-12-2008
Lisa danced well, but her Cha Cha was neither in the same league as Rachel's Latin nor Alesha's own version of the same dance.

Don't know what Craig was thinking.

Ludicrous!
Chuh
20-12-2008
Originally Posted by FluffyBunnykins:
“In answer to the original question .. yes. I am deliberately not reading the forums tonight while I'm watching the shows. I was absolutely amazed that Lisa got perfect 10s when she stumbled so much at the beginning .. and the judges didn't even mention it. (I wasn't dreaming was I ..)”

No, I noticed a stumble too. Also some timing issues in the middle (I feel like Craig saying this haha!) but as ever, Lisa can do no wrong and any faults are disguised with the 'most improved' comments. I do agree she is most improved, but she made mistakes in the Cha Cha and for them to not be picked up on and replaced with a perfect score, I just hope this backfires on the judges. Some of their scoring this series has been beyond forgiveable.
pickledgherkin
20-12-2008
No I don't think so, I believe the judges are supporting all three couples. Anyway it isn't up to them now - though their scores were fair, imo.
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