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Problems With The Christmas Special
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cantos
23-12-2008
BBC radio are just reporting that filming of the Christmas special had to be stopped for an hour last night because 4 of the 6 couples tied at the top.

They didn't have a procedure in place to deal with it.

You couldn't make it up could you.
Fairygirl
23-12-2008
Well apparently the filming lasted from 4pm-11pm so 7hrs makes you suspicious that something happened.......maybe there had to be a revote/recount or something ??
water_carrier
23-12-2008
Please tell me this is a joke
In the words of Victor Meldew, "I don't believe it!"
StrictlyMoo
23-12-2008
Haha, can they not to anything without having some kind of c0ck up.
daisylane
23-12-2008
I feel sorry for the other two couples!
alfie71
23-12-2008
Surely just the one with the highest audience vote would have won???? If four were tied top, all they had to do was tell the audience to vote for one of those four, as the other two could not win????

As I remember there was a tie at the top last year too? There is no problem with audience votes, as they are done on slips of paper, not by phone call, so there is no cost involved, and hence no accusations of "fraud"!
swnymor1963
23-12-2008
Originally Posted by water_carrier:
“Please tell me this is a joke
In the words of Victor Meldew, "I don't believe it!"”

.....and neither do I........especially as there`s no dance off and the Studio audience votes for the winner anyway.
cantos
23-12-2008
Originally Posted by water_carrier:
“Please tell me this is a joke
In the words of Victor Meldew, "I don't believe it!"”

I am afraid it isn't.
cobaltmale
23-12-2008
BBC News channel just confirming this too.

This will really make them look a laughing stock, but I feel rather sorry for the producers.

G
katie_p
23-12-2008
I bet they all tied on 40/40 as well!
My guess- Jill, Alesha, Kelly and Lisa.

I don't really see what the problem is- if they all got different scores the two at the bottom would only have a negligible chance of winning even if they topped the audience vote.

And it's not even as if the audience had to pay to vote
Alli-F
23-12-2008
Originally Posted by cobaltmale:
“BBC News channel just confirming this too.

This will really make them look a laughing stock, but I feel rather sorry for the producers.

G”



I really don't!

I wasn't going to watch it, but now I might!

Surely this tells them all they need to know about the format, once looks unfortunate, but twice in 2 weeks has to tell them something!
dancingbearbear
23-12-2008
Originally Posted by katie_p:
“ I bet they all tied on 40/40 as well!
My guess- Jill, Alesha, Kelly and Lisa.
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That's my guess too!

Lets be honest, the scoring in the Christmas show is even more meaningless than the scoring the rest of the time ~ 40's all round! Goodlwill to all!!
katie_p
23-12-2008
I've put the news channel on to record, if it's mentioned again I will youtube it.
pasodabble
23-12-2008
Originally Posted by cantos:
“BBC radio are just reporting that filming of the Christmas special had to be stopped for an hour last night because 4 of the 6 couples tied at the top.”

Probably Jill, Kelly, Lisa and Rachel on 40/40 with Alesha and Tom getting told off for one missed heel lead and getting 39/40 and tying in 5th place.

Still, they've probably broken their last saturday record for the most 40s given out in a single programme. Next year everyone will get 40 and it'll be a straightforward popularity vote. Then the following year, like eurovision dance, a score of 12 will be allowed.
cobaltmale
23-12-2008
Originally Posted by Alli-F:
“I really don't!

I wasn't going to watch it, but now I might!

Surely this tells them all they need to know about the format, once looks unfortunate, but twice in 2 weeks has to tell them something! ”

Since this was with a completely different voting system, using only the audience I'd say it was unfortunate. And it's twice in 3 shows, not consecutively.

But the perception is bad.

G
Jan2555*GG*
23-12-2008
That must be a joke surely ???? it wouldnt matter......Gethin and Darren tied at the top last year, Darren won because he got the higher audiance vote, when there is no 'dance off' it doesnt matter, unless of course by some freak of fate the audiance gave exactly the same votes to two of the couples, that could have happened, there is a finite number of voters unlike the phone vote when we are talking thousands.
Fairygirl
23-12-2008
Oh let's run with this

My guess,Jill,Alesha,Tom,( and i don't know!!!!!) are the four on equal points after judges scores/audience vote is combined to give points total....

In which case surely the winner would be the one that had got the most audience vote out of the four ??

You could write a book
Jan2555*GG*
23-12-2008
Perhaps they stopped it to get the calculators out just to make sure there couldnt be a problem !!!! which there couldnt be unless the vote was also tied.
cantos
23-12-2008
Originally Posted by Jan2555*GG*:
“That must be a joke surely ???? it wouldnt matter......Gethin and Darren tied at the top last year, Darren won because he got the higher audiance vote, when there is no 'dance off' it doesnt matter, unless of course by some freak of fate the audiance gave exactly the same votes to two of the couples, that could have happened, there is a finite number of voters unlike the phone vote when we are talking thousands.”


With 4 dancers getting 6 points and the other two 2 and 1 points,there lies the problem.
PorkSausage
23-12-2008
A great publicity stunt.
alfie71
23-12-2008
Originally Posted by cantos:
“With 4 dancers getting 6 points and the other two 2 and 1 points,there lies the problem.”


All you have to do in that scenario is ask the audience to vote between the top four couples surely! Simple!
Alli-F
23-12-2008
Originally Posted by cobaltmale:
“Since this was with a completely different voting system, using only the audience I'd say it was unfortunate. And it's twice in 3 shows, not consecutively.

But the perception is bad.

G”



I didn't say twice in 2 shows, I said twice in 2 weeks, the first cock-up being 11 days ago.

It's also basically the same format, half the score is the judges, half the score is the audience, but it's the studio audience rather than the watching audience at home.

The only reason I can imagine total deadlock is that a few scored 40 and then there was a tie between 2 dancers in the voting audience, because there are only a couple of hundred people there, aren't there? So there could be a dead heat in judges' scores and audience votes.

It does make me laugh a lot though, which then makes me feel a little mean!
Fairygirl
23-12-2008
Yeh but 4 of them couldn't have got the exact same audience vote though could they ?? and if not the winner is the one with the highest.....
Jan2555*GG*
23-12-2008
Originally Posted by cantos:
“With 4 dancers getting 6 points and the other two 2 and 1 points,there lies the problem.”


Explain to me how that is the problem because the audience vote and those scores are added to the 6's and 2's and 1's and ONE couple would win, it would be the one on 6 that got the most number of votes. There could only be an issue the vote was also tied surely.

If there WERE no judges marks at all and just the vote they would all start on the same mark ZERO but one couple would win the vote, but there could be a tie, so I think this must have been a tie in the vote aswell you know.
katie_p
23-12-2008
Originally Posted by cantos:
“With 4 dancers getting 6 points and the other two 2 and 1 points,there lies the problem.”

All they have to do is give the bottom two 5 points and four points- if the bottom gets six points and the second gets five, the bottom will win, otherwise they don't have a chance- same scenario they would have if all the scores were different. Realistically the bottom couple of six has no chance of winning whatever the other couples get, as they rely on the leaderboard being reversed.
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