I don't know what it is about Suzanne -as good as she is her skating leaves me:yawn: I don't think she deserved the full marks!

I know it's complex and flawless but I just don't get the excitement from it.

I would much rather watch Zaraah dance a simpler routine with far more musicality and grace. She and Fred are such a great partnership. They deserved much higher marks.

If I want to see lifts and tricks I much prefer to watch Clare than Suzanne (though I did miss the wonderful Andre!)

Chris and Frankie are very exciting to watch, although he's so gung ho he misses some of the finer details.

Still love Kyran and Mel - great partnership and great to watch.

Duncan and Maria - fine but not exciting.

I must admit it confuses me when people talk about Zaraah's grace and how "natural" she is. She's naturally unsteady to me

Ey up Psychosis!

I guess we're seeing different things! I admit, she has sometimes looked tentative in the past, but last night I thought she was totally elegant.

Nearly everyone had the wobbles at some points - but those turns that Zaraah and Fred did at the beginning - she was out of hold and perfectly in time with Fred AND the music. That perfectly sums up what I love about her.

Yes, they were in time. That's one up on Chris

i was shocked with the judges scoring on a reality show once again ok it was a good dance done well but for me there was nothing what made it stand out from any other dance wasnt it suprising she needed to win by 2 clear points to win the judges vote for the girls team and by god the judges made sure she got them in a dance what was bo better from the coronation street reject or duncan james i thaught keiran bracken was a far supperior more exciting dance and even claire buckfields dance was better and hollyoaks lads dance at least they tried something daring its about time all judges should be stopped from scoring as they always score there favourites high like suzanne shaw one again and rachell stevens on the other show the one not o n ice

I don't think that it was deserving of full marks.

I preferred both the other girls performances.

Also Zaraah got criticised by a judge for not extending her leg enough, yet it was more entended than Suzanne's was.

The more you watch suzannes routine the better it is, the timing between her and matt is absolutely perfect. Suzannes leg on the one hand drag was way up in the air and her lines the whole way through the routine were perfect. Her and matt were matched exactly. Their moves were completely synchronized the whole way through, it was spot on. Chris' routine looks worse everytime you watch it, i though the timing between him and frankie was bad but looking at it again it was dreadful! if they at any point matched it was purely coincidence. The bit before he goes down on one knee theres an aerial shot that shows how far ahead of her he is.
Zarahh was good and originally i thought deserved higher until i watched it again, she looks nervous and tentative, she pulls out of a few things far too quickly and looks unstable at times. Her lines were also way better in other routines ive seen her do, and her legs were far too bent at times. I think nerves got the better of her.
Clare is still very good, but the jumps and some of her moves when you watch it back are out, and the jump was very tentative and she looks a bit strained and nervous in parts.
Kyrans routine was good but there were some very obvious mistakes and he tripped mel, there was also a few timing issues and i dont know what it is about it but he seems to be going a bit through the motions for some of the skating around, hes lost some of the sparkle he had, may have been nerves.
Duncan was good but you could tell he was really nervous.
Suzannes was the only flawless routine.

i didnt think it was that great. I much preferred her "music" routine she did on the tour. So great seeing it live.
I guess she deserved top spot for not making any obvious errors but i was more impressed with Chris as for me he had the most challenging routine.
Gutted Claire was not dancing with Andre

sorry to disagree with a lot of folks who think suzanes routine was spectacular it was a fairly simple routine with her dance partner coing most of the work a fair result would have been keiran and clare taking the top 2 spots instead of the judges being up suzanes backside please drop the judges scoring yes let them comment but dont let the judges scores go towards the fainal marks

What and have people with no knowledge of skating decide it? no i think that it being 50/50 is fair. The judges voted last night and the audience agreed... i feel thats a good balance. otherwise itd be a bit of farce, you'd have someone who could not skate winning due to a fanbase, which as we've seen with john sergent still happens... the judges are needed.

I would rather watch a good routine skated well than an ambitious routine skated poorly.

Just because someone "tried" to do something doesn't mean that they should get better marks, they should only get better marks if they pull it off correctly which didn't happen in the Christmas special.

I dont think she deserved that she didnt do anything spectacular. Judges just sucking up her ****!

It was a good programme, very clean, no mistakes, but somehow i got the feeling before Suzanne even stepped onto the ice, the judges were going to give her 30.0 no matter what she presented as long as there was no clear error.

THATS why she got 30.....as you have just said.... a good programme, very clean, no mistakes.... simple as..... no conspiracy theories needed at all. Regardless of what level of difficulty each individual couple had in their programme, at the end of the day it comes down to how well the programme is performed. Suzanne was flawless, and gives real performance value, she retained that sexy seductive character of the piece from start to finish.

SIMPLE being the stand out word there..her entire routine was simple & boring..perfectly skated yes but where did Clare make a mistake? She got no 6s & she skated perfectly with far more lifts & exciting elements.

Watch Claires again, and i really like claire. She skated well but far from perfectly, far from it, especially the jumps part. There are several mistakes, not bad ones now but they are there. There are timing issues also, there not a obvious as chris' now but they are there. Also at parts of the routine she looks nervous and hesitant and a few things look a little shaky. I personally never get a favouritism feeling at all. The show seemed geared to chris getting revenge and thats what they built up. I didnt think she would get 30 again at all.
You get marks for performing the routine you are given well with no mistakes. And as you said she performed it perfectly, everyone else made mistakes, thereby 6s are due. If you give someone 6 when they almost fell over twice someone who sails through the routine they have been given, because you cannot penalise her for any lack of tricks/lifts etc, (also can i point out that when suzanne does lots of lifts and exciting elements she is criticised by some for having a too flashy routine and for being simply thrown about and not skating enough) as she has no control over that, she does what she is told to do and she did it flawlessly, has to get a 6.

I really liked Suzanne's routine. In fact I think all the girls skated far better than the boys. Zaraah was definately undermarked. I don't get all the fuss over Chris - I find him a very messy skater to watch and don't feel any connection between him and Frankie. I also think his competitiveness is a bit of a turn off.

On the whole Suzanne was definately the best on the night, closely followed by Clare and Zaraah. Sorry boys!

Suzanne as ever attracts undeserved criticism - Chris attracts undeserved praise.

Did Suzanne deserve 6's - imo yes - yes - yes. Was Clare undermarked yes - yes - yes.

it was a very smooth programme from Suzanne, and it had a lovely spiral, but it didn't quite impress as much as her Music in the DOI final did, which got 30.0 (and had more skating content). But, as always, great presentation and interpretation of the music (Santa Baby) from Suzanne.

When I heard the comments for Jason about Clare pulling faces when skating as a reason for marking her down I thought that very harsh. If Chris could warrent two sixes for actually falling and a poor performance then Clare certain desrved higher marks

Clare may have been a little ragged but she was skating with Pavel and not Andrei, and may have had a better performance with Andrei. You do wonder though was Clare given Pavel though as not to outshine Suzanne much in the way you would have expected Bonnie Langford to have appeared instead of Zaraah.

Firstly i wasnt having a go at claire.
Bonnie langford didnt appear simply as it is a champion of champions thing, its 123 from last year and 123 from this year... simple as... thats baltantly obvious and is in no way geared to favouritism to suzanne... Also I think Andrei is injured and claire seemed to have no problems skating with him and is now reasonably used to different partners, though i did miss andrei. Some form of conspiracy however is ridiculous. Claire and Suzanne are practically best mates. Also why would Jane hinder her own team? She wanted her team to team, not just suzanne to win. Its a team event and the girls were very much a team, there seemed a great spirit and all did great.
My point there wasnt that claires was bad or anything, as i siad i really like claire, it was that somebody said it was perfect and deserved sixes more than suzannes did and though i think it was a fabulous routine and extremely well skated it was not perfect, there were mistakes... thats what i was pointing out.
Also you cant compare santa baby to music... they are completely different. You are marked against how well the other people perform their routines, you arent judged on the content but how well you perform what you are given and she was flawless.

I agree. It was an excellent routine, but his very obvious stumble should have ruled out the possibility of any 6s. I didn't think Suzanne's deserved the 30 either because although it was executed perfectly it lacked the complexity of Chris's. I don't really understand why they have the judges at all if they are not going to try and score properly.

I agree with that. I thought that Suzanne skated well. But there was nothing in the routine that made me think WOW or that definitely deserves full marks. And that goes for all the routines on the night as well.

But she cant control whats in the routine, thats why everyone was disgusted with nicky re walk on by. She doesnt have to wow everyone that watches it otherwise nobody would ever get a six, she just has to do what she is given to do, complex or simple, with loads of tricks or not, thats the most she can do, she cant add extra tricks in on the night or anything, she does what is given and do the best she can with it, thats all you can expect from her, she can't add complexity thats not her job. She performed what she was given perfectly, that is the best she can do and thereby she must get a 6 as she made no mistakes, its not like she was given tricks and left them out. You cant penalise her when she did absolutely everything asked of her and executed it flawlessly. If you thought it lack complexity that is due to Jane Torvill not giving her it, thats not suzannes problem. If she does something perfect when nobody else does, you give a 6.

Speaking for myself, I didn't think that it was perfect. But that's just my opinion and i'm entitled to it.