Originally Posted by walterwhite:
“Real classy comment.”
“Real classy comment.”
Have you seen the terrible layout, Plus they don't treat there staff well.
Now Adams has gone into Administration who is next?
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I have a relative who works in one of the store and spoke to them tonight and doesn't sound positive about the outcome
Originally Posted by malpasc:
“Nobody in retail ought to follow Woolworths' example..”
“Nobody in retail ought to follow Woolworths' example..”
Why not? In their 2008 accounts Woolworths Group PLC they had liabilities of £800,600,000.00 but assets of £882,000,000.00 and they had a net worth of £175,600,000.00. BHS Limited in their 2014 accounts they had liabilities of £296,850,000.00, assets of £110,564,000.00 and a net worth of -£256,288,000.00. In the 1980s/1990s Woolworths stopped selling some products such as adult clothes and electrical products and by 1997/1998 Woolworths made profits of £105.1 million.
Originally Posted by LakieLady:
“This made me lol. There are around 200,000 books published each year in the UK alone, the global figure is 4-5 times that. I'd be surprised if even 10% of them are made into films or tv shows.
And film or tv as a medium is as different from literature as sculpture is from ballet.”
“This made me lol. There are around 200,000 books published each year in the UK alone, the global figure is 4-5 times that. I'd be surprised if even 10% of them are made into films or tv shows.
And film or tv as a medium is as different from literature as sculpture is from ballet.”
Personally I don't have time to read books.
Good article by Mary Portas about how she would have changed BHS: http://www.theguardian.com/business/...have-saved-bhs
She makes the point that Woolworths has been replaced in the marketplace by the pound shops - the former Woolworth shops may have turned into other stores but the job of Woolworths is now done by the pound shops. Likewise BHS will be replaced by shops that do what BHS used to do in a way that works in the current market, but if they'd had the vision to do it themselves they could have survived.
She makes the point that Woolworths has been replaced in the marketplace by the pound shops - the former Woolworth shops may have turned into other stores but the job of Woolworths is now done by the pound shops. Likewise BHS will be replaced by shops that do what BHS used to do in a way that works in the current market, but if they'd had the vision to do it themselves they could have survived.
Originally Posted by Inkblot:
“Good article by Mary Portas about how she would have changed BHS: http://www.theguardian.com/business/...have-saved-bhs
She makes the point that Woolworths has been replaced in the marketplace by the pound shops - the actual Woolworth shops may have turned into other stores but the job of Woolworths is now done by the pound shops. Likewise BHS will be replaced by shops that do what BHS used to do in a way that works in the current market, but if they'd had the vision to do it themselves they could have survived.”
“Good article by Mary Portas about how she would have changed BHS: http://www.theguardian.com/business/...have-saved-bhs
She makes the point that Woolworths has been replaced in the marketplace by the pound shops - the actual Woolworth shops may have turned into other stores but the job of Woolworths is now done by the pound shops. Likewise BHS will be replaced by shops that do what BHS used to do in a way that works in the current market, but if they'd had the vision to do it themselves they could have survived.”
I always think Wilkinson have kind of taken over what Woolworths did. Our local Woolworths actually became a Wilkinson after they went bust. They sell more or less the same items, but with better stock varieties and levels, better quality, more reasonable pricing, and in a much nicer looking environment. Plus, they don't sell things that people don't buy physically in such quantities anymore such as music, or things like clothes (Woollies did kids clothes) which people will generally buy from actual clothes shops or from the supermarkets.
Originally Posted by Blofeld:
“Whenever these things happen why do they always find some poor staff member to hound?
That lady trying to get in to door on BBC news is close to tears but they keep prodding her with silly questions like "how do you feel?" "what will you do now?".
I'm not sure what that kind of thing adds to the story, it's just making that woman feel 100 times worse. I'd have kept totally quiet if I was her, just to make them piss off.”
“Whenever these things happen why do they always find some poor staff member to hound?
That lady trying to get in to door on BBC news is close to tears but they keep prodding her with silly questions like "how do you feel?" "what will you do now?".
I'm not sure what that kind of thing adds to the story, it's just making that woman feel 100 times worse. I'd have kept totally quiet if I was her, just to make them piss off.”
I saw that clip and I think the lady was definitely being hounded by that reporter. All she wanted to do was get into work and probably find out about how long she has left before she's unemployed.
Woolworths lost its purpose, i remember the final boss saying that they had a load of different pencil cases but no ladies tights for sale which his mum always went into woolies for. At the end it was basically known for piling up chocolate and pick & mix to the ceiling and kids clothing and both are low profit items as fashions in kids clothing change and food has an expiry date.
The motto should be that you have to evolve along with your customers wants and expectations as I doubt Grace bro's would still be in business today using its old methods even if Mr Humpreys will measure your inside leg.
The motto should be that you have to evolve along with your customers wants and expectations as I doubt Grace bro's would still be in business today using its old methods even if Mr Humpreys will measure your inside leg.
Menswear Austin Reed has now entered administration.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36137226
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36137226
Originally Posted by Inkblot:
“Good article by Mary Portas about how she would have changed BHS: http://www.theguardian.com/business/...have-saved-bhs
She makes the point that Woolworths has been replaced in the marketplace by the pound shops - the former Woolworth shops may have turned into other stores but the job of Woolworths is now done by the pound shops. Likewise BHS will be replaced by shops that do what BHS used to do in a way that works in the current market, but if they'd had the vision to do it themselves they could have survived.”
“Good article by Mary Portas about how she would have changed BHS: http://www.theguardian.com/business/...have-saved-bhs
She makes the point that Woolworths has been replaced in the marketplace by the pound shops - the former Woolworth shops may have turned into other stores but the job of Woolworths is now done by the pound shops. Likewise BHS will be replaced by shops that do what BHS used to do in a way that works in the current market, but if they'd had the vision to do it themselves they could have survived.”
It's a real shame. Frustratingly, going back about 10 years or so, I thought they'd cracked it! While the M & S store next door was dark and seemed to be struggling to work out what market they appealed to, with a mishmash of old fashioned and modern lines, BHS in comparison, was an all together brighter more colourful shop with a great selection of younger fashions. Their beachwear range for example was extensive and fantastic. I always found the customer service friendly and excellent too.
Some retailers are destined to go out of business due to changes in fashion and tastes. There's nothing you could do to stop it.
The increase in car ownership in the 70s and 80s lead to a growth in out of town supermarkets - which quickly worked out that if they had regular customers then why not try to sell them as much stuff as possible - which lead to many other stores that supplied specific items no longer being able to compete. Overall this was good for the consumer as margins and prices fell considerably. People no longer have to pay WH Smith prices for stationary or HMV prices for CDs.
The increase in car ownership in the 70s and 80s lead to a growth in out of town supermarkets - which quickly worked out that if they had regular customers then why not try to sell them as much stuff as possible - which lead to many other stores that supplied specific items no longer being able to compete. Overall this was good for the consumer as margins and prices fell considerably. People no longer have to pay WH Smith prices for stationary or HMV prices for CDs.
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“Have you seen the terrible layout, Plus they don't treat there staff well.”
“Have you seen the terrible layout, Plus they don't treat there staff well.”
So that's enough reason for you to wish unemployment on thousands of people?
Originally Posted by blueisthecolour:
“ Overall this was good for the consumer as margins and prices fell considerably. People no longer have to pay WH Smith prices for stationary or HMV prices for CDs.”
“ Overall this was good for the consumer as margins and prices fell considerably. People no longer have to pay WH Smith prices for stationary or HMV prices for CDs.”
Not good for the consumer if the supermarkets stock 100 titles and the specialist stores 10,000.
Originally Posted by CLL Dodge:
“Not good for the consumer if the supermarkets stock 100 titles and the specialist stores 10,000.”
“Not good for the consumer if the supermarkets stock 100 titles and the specialist stores 10,000.”
That's what the internet is for.
Originally Posted by Maxatoria:
“I doubt Grace bro's would still be in business today using its old methods even if Mr Humpreys will measure your inside leg.”
“I doubt Grace bro's would still be in business today using its old methods even if Mr Humpreys will measure your inside leg.”
The sad thing is that Mr Humphries was a professional with many years' experience of measuring inside legs, but the public has decided that it would rather be served by teenagers on minimum wage if that means cheaper trousers.
Originally Posted by Inkblot:
“The sad thing is that Mr Humphries was a professional with many years' experience of measuring inside legs, but the public has decided that it would rather be served by teenagers on minimum wage if that means cheaper trousers.”
“The sad thing is that Mr Humphries was a professional with many years' experience of measuring inside legs, but the public has decided that it would rather be served by teenagers on minimum wage if that means cheaper trousers.”
It's quite sad.
I remember when buying shoes meant you got your feet measured for size to determine the correct fit. I don't think any do that anymore apart from maybe upmarket shoe shops.
Nowadays people seem to just buy clothes and shoes off the rack to try on and see, and the staff simply go in the back to get the size you want.
Originally Posted by Ovalteenie:
“It's quite sad.
I remember when buying shoes meant you got your feet measured for size to determine the correct fit. I don't think any do that anymore apart from maybe upmarket shoe shops.
Nowadays people seem to just buy clothes and shoes off the rack to try on and see, and the staff simply go in the back to get the size you want.”
“It's quite sad.
I remember when buying shoes meant you got your feet measured for size to determine the correct fit. I don't think any do that anymore apart from maybe upmarket shoe shops.
Nowadays people seem to just buy clothes and shoes off the rack to try on and see, and the staff simply go in the back to get the size you want.”
Im not sure if this is tongue in cheek but if not, surely you already know what size you are and can try the shoes on to determine size and fit rather than having to have them measured. I never saw the point of that anyway.
Originally Posted by tiacat:
“Im not sure if this is tongue in cheek but if not, surely you already know what size you are and can try the shoes on to determine size and fit rather than having to have them measured. I never saw the point of that anyway.”
“Im not sure if this is tongue in cheek but if not, surely you already know what size you are and can try the shoes on to determine size and fit rather than having to have them measured. I never saw the point of that anyway.”
Most shoe shops nowadays sell only fashion shoes which generally come in one width fitting only....and is the reason why so many people have poorly fitting shoes. Children's shoes, especially Clarks came in a number of width fittings within any particular size. Feet were measured for width as well as length. The importance of correctly fitting shoes, especially for children whose bones are still growing, seems to be rapidly disappearing
Shoe companies such as Pavers and Hotter offer adult shoes in various widths. I take a size 5 in Pavers shoes as I can get wide fitting but have to buy size 6 or 6 1/2 in most High St. shoe shops to get the width....but the shoes are far too long!
Originally Posted by tiacat:
“Im not sure if this is tongue in cheek but if not, surely you already know what size you are and can try the shoes on to determine size and fit rather than having to have them measured. I never saw the point of that anyway.”
“Im not sure if this is tongue in cheek but if not, surely you already know what size you are and can try the shoes on to determine size and fit rather than having to have them measured. I never saw the point of that anyway.”
Yeah, right... I went shoe-shopping for trainers with my wife the other week and it was a soul (sole?) destroying experience because the staff had no clue. At one point I had to interrupt the assistant and say "But not all shoes are the same shape, are they? Can you show us some shoes that are a wider fit?" and the assistant just looked at me as if I was an idiot and said, "We don't do different widths".
Yes you do. You're just so uninterested in your job that you don't know it.
We were talking about New Balance trainers, not party shoes.
Originally Posted by stargazer61:
“Most shoe shops nowadays sell only fashion shoes which generally come in one width fitting only....and is the reason why so many people have poorly fitting shoes. Children's shoes, especially Clarks came in a number of width fittings within any particular size. Feet were measured for width as well as length. The importance of correctly fitting shoes, especially for children whose bones are still growing, seems to be rapidly disappearing
Shoe companies such as Pavers and Hotter offer adult shoes in various widths. I take a size 5 in Pavers shoes as I can get wide fitting but have to buy size 6 or 6 1/2 in most High St. shoe shops to get the width....but the shoes are far too long!”
“Most shoe shops nowadays sell only fashion shoes which generally come in one width fitting only....and is the reason why so many people have poorly fitting shoes. Children's shoes, especially Clarks came in a number of width fittings within any particular size. Feet were measured for width as well as length. The importance of correctly fitting shoes, especially for children whose bones are still growing, seems to be rapidly disappearing
Shoe companies such as Pavers and Hotter offer adult shoes in various widths. I take a size 5 in Pavers shoes as I can get wide fitting but have to buy size 6 or 6 1/2 in most High St. shoe shops to get the width....but the shoes are far too long!”
Originally Posted by Inkblot:
“Yeah, right... I went shoe-shopping for trainers with my wife the other week and it was a soul (sole?) destroying experience because the staff had no clue. At one point I had to interrupt the assistant and say "But not all shoes are the same shape, are they? Can you show us some shoes that are a wider fit?" and the assistant just looked at me as if I was an idiot and said, "We don't do different widths".
Yes you do. You're just so uninterested in your job that you don't know it.
We were talking about New Balance trainers, not party shoes.”
“Yeah, right... I went shoe-shopping for trainers with my wife the other week and it was a soul (sole?) destroying experience because the staff had no clue. At one point I had to interrupt the assistant and say "But not all shoes are the same shape, are they? Can you show us some shoes that are a wider fit?" and the assistant just looked at me as if I was an idiot and said, "We don't do different widths".
Yes you do. You're just so uninterested in your job that you don't know it.
We were talking about New Balance trainers, not party shoes.”
I spent many years working in shoe shops so I know all about how to fit shoes. I worked in the cheap shops, the very very expensive shops and the width fitting type shops. I also have very wide feet so I know about problems of getting shoes to fit, but on each foot you have to try the shoes and you can also tell by looking at shoes (or trainers) if they are wider or slimmer. All the shoes are on display, you can see with your own eyes if they are the shape and width you need or whether it will be a problem because you have a high instep (nightmare for boots).
Originally Posted by tiacat:
“I spent many years working in shoe shops so I know all about how to fit shoes. I worked in the cheap shops, the very very expensive shops and the width fitting type shops. I also have very wide feet so I know about problems of getting shoes to fit, but on each foot you have to try the shoes and you can also tell by looking at shoes (or trainers) if they are wider or slimmer. All the shoes are on display, you can see with your own eyes if they are the shape and width you need or whether it will be a problem because you have a high instep (nightmare for boots).”
“I spent many years working in shoe shops so I know all about how to fit shoes. I worked in the cheap shops, the very very expensive shops and the width fitting type shops. I also have very wide feet so I know about problems of getting shoes to fit, but on each foot you have to try the shoes and you can also tell by looking at shoes (or trainers) if they are wider or slimmer. All the shoes are on display, you can see with your own eyes if they are the shape and width you need or whether it will be a problem because you have a high instep (nightmare for boots).”
I miss those times of the mid to late 80s. Just about any store when I was a child going in with my mother, they took time with me to fit my shoes. You hardly see it nowadays or the store you go into don't have whatever footwear you're specifically after.
In fact I barely remember seeing any place fitting your footwear mid to late 90s.
Austin Reed in my opinion is the DFS of clothes sales, I walk by one regularly and they almost constantly have a sale on. Even in the sale their clothes still look very over priced. I get some people want better quality, I've never used AR myself so I cannot comment on that but there are other retailers out there who offer that.
It's been a sad few days for employees. 11,000 from BHS now 1000 from Austin Reed all out of jobs.
It's been a sad few days for employees. 11,000 from BHS now 1000 from Austin Reed all out of jobs.
Originally Posted by sarahj1986:
“Austin Reed in my opinion is the DFS of clothes sales, I walk by one regularly and they almost constantly have a sale on. Even in the sale their clothes still look very over priced. I get some people want better quality, I've never used AR myself so I cannot comment on that but there are other retailers out there who offer that.
It's been a sad few days for employees. 11,000 from BHS now 1000 from Austin Reed all out of jobs.”
“Austin Reed in my opinion is the DFS of clothes sales, I walk by one regularly and they almost constantly have a sale on. Even in the sale their clothes still look very over priced. I get some people want better quality, I've never used AR myself so I cannot comment on that but there are other retailers out there who offer that.
It's been a sad few days for employees. 11,000 from BHS now 1000 from Austin Reed all out of jobs.”
I saw a woman from one of the BHS stores on TV a few days ago or so saying she has worked there for 30 years. Must be terrible how you once had job security and a pension, now it is gone.
I don't even know if terrible can even describe that.
The irony is it's people buying their clothes online at fault.
Soon all we will have in shops is just a newspaper stand with some bread and milk and an ATM. All of our meat and veg and clothes will be bought online and delivered daily by Argos and Asda vans. Our cities will just be full of tenement buildings and roads with very little grass or anything green.
Soon all we will have in shops is just a newspaper stand with some bread and milk and an ATM. All of our meat and veg and clothes will be bought online and delivered daily by Argos and Asda vans. Our cities will just be full of tenement buildings and roads with very little grass or anything green.
Originally Posted by hazydayz:
“The irony is it's people buying their clothes online at fault.”
“The irony is it's people buying their clothes online at fault.”
Not just that, it is everything. They all want dirt cheap.
Quote:
“Soon all we will have in shops is just a newspaper stand with some bread and milk and an ATM. All of our meat and veg and clothes will be bought online and delivered daily by Argos and Asda vans. Our cities will just be full of tenement buildings and roads with very little grass or anything green.”
“Soon all we will have in shops is just a newspaper stand with some bread and milk and an ATM. All of our meat and veg and clothes will be bought online and delivered daily by Argos and Asda vans. Our cities will just be full of tenement buildings and roads with very little grass or anything green.”
Is it, all I see is betting shops, loan and pawn shops. I've also seen a few banks and ATM's close in my area.
I also see many shops in my high street always sitting waiting for customers.
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