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Old 28-12-2008, 19:46
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My uncle is looking at buying a 60" tv and i recommended him a plasma, but he was a bit worried about that, since he has heard tons of stories about plasma tvs burning out, is this problem fixed
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Old 28-12-2008, 20:09
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Burning out? Absolute nonsense, just go ahead and buy it.
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Old 30-12-2008, 13:46
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Or you could get a projector at that size.
They seem to have improved alot.
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Old 30-12-2008, 14:21
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I think these days a modern plasma has something in the region of 60,000 hour half life (brightness drops to 50% of quoted as new) which equates to over 6 years continuous use and that isn't too failure. Obviously no matter what you buy any TV or product can fail well before the average lifespan but in tech terms the potential failure of a Plasma is no different to any other display technology these days.

It's far more likely you will choose to replace a TV long before it fails or a failure occurs when replacing it is far cheaper than buying it in the first place and the new model wipes the floor with the old one

Don't let anyone telling him about re-gasing
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Old 30-12-2008, 16:08
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I hear this all the time, its complete rubbish as these days as theres so much in built protection for screen burn etc.

Buy it and enjoy it
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Old 31-12-2008, 14:26
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Salesmen in shops always seem to try and push customers towards buying LCDs with these old scare stories. I assume that as plasma panels are more costly to manufacture the retailers are able to make a bigger profit margin on LCDs and so have a vested interest in perpetuating these myths

Burn-in: You may have heard that plasma has a couple of drawbacks. One such downside is burn-in, which occurs when an image--such as a stock ticker, a network logo, or letterbox bars--gets etched permanently onto the screen because it sits in one place too long. In our experience, the danger of burn-in has been greatly exaggerated, and people with normal viewing habits have nothing to worry about. The potential for burn-in is greatest during the first 100 or so hours of use, during which time you should keep contrast low (less than 50 percent) and avoid showing static images or letterbox bars on the screen for hours at a time. After this initial phase, plasma should be as durable as any television technology. Many models also have burn-in-reduction features, such as screensavers and pixel orbiting, or settings to treat burn-in once it occurs, such as causing the screen to go all white. Check out our guide to burn-in for more details.

Plasma life span: The life span of plasma TVs is another area that's improved dramatically with the last few generations of the technology. Partly in response to claims made by LCD TV makers, plasma manufacturers now claim their panels last an extremely long time. Most plasma makers today claim a life span of 60,000 hours before the panel fades to half brightness. That's more than 20 years if the TV is on for 8 hours per day.
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Old 31-12-2008, 14:32
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Margins on LCD/Plasma for the retailer are exactly the same. The problem that Plasma has is that the larger shops have mis-informed staff perpetuating false claims about picture/reliability.
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Old 31-12-2008, 14:39
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not sure if I should start a new thread about this. My Dad is looking into getting a new TV and has the usual choice of LCD or Plasma. he wants a TV ov about 42" or 46" maybe even 50".

he's very much into sport and so due to the fast action of football I was thinking a plasma would be the better option.

How do the two technologies compare these days ? I have a low end Sharp LCD and that is fine but i'm aware there are TVs with better pictures than mine.

TV is to do with a V+ Box that upscales to 1080i
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Old 31-12-2008, 14:48
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Margins on LCD/Plasma for the retailer are exactly the same. The problem that Plasma has is that the larger shops have mis-informed staff perpetuating false claims about picture/reliability.
Certainly margins are no different (at least for the retailers), but Plasma statisically is (or at least was - you don't know until afterwards) less reliable, and more expensive when they do go wrong.

Plasma is certainly getting less and less popular, with many manufacturers dropping Plasma entirely - I suspect this is due to cost, while retailer margins are the same, I suspect manufacturer margins are far lower on Plasma.
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Old 31-12-2008, 15:33
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Certainly margins are no different (at least for the retailers), but Plasma statisically is (or at least was - you don't know until afterwards) less reliable, and more expensive when they do go wrong.

Plasma is certainly getting less and less popular, with many manufacturers dropping Plasma entirely - I suspect this is due to cost, while retailer margins are the same, I suspect manufacturer margins are far lower on Plasma.
Which manufacturers (as in people who make plasma panels, not buy in like Sony used to) are actually dropping plasma?
Plasma is still generally reguarded as having a better more enjoyable image on larger screens than LCD.
Having sold both Pasma and LCD for ages I would say that yes plasmas are normally more expensive to repair if the display panel fails but only because the set are ony available in larger sizes when compared to LCD. If an LCD panel fails it is generally a write off as would be a plasma screen.
We have carried out loads of repairs to both LCD and Plasma sets although most of these have been for lowee quality brands such as LG, Philips, Samsung, Hitachi & No-Name supermarket sets. We have done very few repairs to either LCD or Plasma from brands like Panasonic, Pioneer or Sony.
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Old 31-12-2008, 17:22
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Which manufacturers (as in people who make plasma panels, not buy in like Sony used to) are actually dropping plasma?
Fujitsu, one of the largest manufacturers of Plasma panels ceased both panel and TV production a while back now, and Pioneer has mostly stopped making their own panels, buying them in from Panasonic instead.

It's likely that others will follow suit, as Plasma manufacturing costs aren't competitive, LG have been rumoured to be phasing Plasma out, but I've no specific knowledge of it.
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Old 31-12-2008, 21:43
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one of the largest manufacturers of Plasma panels ceased both panel and TV production
but in fact in fact sold the plant & technololgy to Hitachi - not sure they really did much with it though - although may be some tie up with panasonic.
panasonic recently started its 5th (I think ) plasma plant giving them a total capacity of 2 million 42" panels / month (link)
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