BluRay & HDMI Cable

seacam · 30-12-2008, 22:04

Hello,

We are still choosing our new TVs, what we have all agreed on is that all the TVs will be 1080p, 100 MHz units.

Still haven't decided on brands of BluRay player, I am quite happy with Sony, altho' not a Sony fan, the wife and kids likes Panasonic.

But is it true that the player is only as good as the HDMI cable, a bit like scart cable?

I was given some information today that any cable I use should be 1080p certified and 10.2 RGB something or another.

Let me put it another way, what should I be looking for in a HDMI cable? all the cables will be 2mt long.

The HDMI cable I was shown could automacticly detect, something or another.

Sorry this is a bad post, I was trying to take a lot on board, so it's somewhat vague.

Cookie Crunch · 30-12-2008, 22:20

If your going to be buying a good television like you are, £40 on a good HDMI cable can't be much to ask (not that I think it's needed) ... its more about the Blu-ray player though but if your going for the big setup just splash out on a 24k plated cable

Please buy a good blu-ray player

(SONY BDPS 350

) This outputs 24p as well which I didn't find in other brands when I bought mine...

Dave1979 · 30-12-2008, 22:24

For 2m it will not really matter what cable you get. A £5 from tesco will give the same results as a £100 cable. you only need the quality cable when you are looking at 10m or more. A search on any of the AV forums will back this up. I have various cables from the free cables that came with my V+ box to a £40 cable and I can see no difference with any of my sources including the V+, PS3, HD-DVD or bluray player.

bobcar · 30-12-2008, 22:27

Just in case Cookie's emoticons weren't obvious enough don't spend a lot of money on HDMI cables they make zero difference to the picture quality. (Exception being for very long cables).

Why have you decided that all the TVs will be 1080p (presumably you mean 1920x1080 display) and 100Hz? Accepting a 1080p input (especially if 1080p24) is definitely good for Blu Ray but having the full resolution may or may not be worthwhile depending on the size/viewing distance. 100Hz is usually a waste of time and may make the picture worse especially if you can't turn it off.

player1 · 30-12-2008, 22:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cookie Crunch

If your going to be buying a good television like you are, £40 on a good HDMI cable can't be much to ask... its more about the Blu-ray player though but if your going for the big setup just splash out on a 24k plated cable

Please buy a good blu-ray player

(SONY BDPS 350

) This outputs 24p as well which I didn't find in other brands when I bought mine,,,

Sorry , completely disagree. hdmi is passing a digital signal and I doubt you will notice any improvement by buying a high grade cable...I would spend no more than a tenner in Tesco or Asda. Of course, this topic comes up over and over again and opinion is decidedly split so you will get both sides of the argument.

Oh, and unlike scart, hdmi inputs don't auto switch so your TV won't autodetect a new source and switch itself...what it will do is detect the signal 1080i/1080/720p etc and autoswitch for that ( on the pre-selected source ) but that is all down to the TV and Blu-Ray, not the cable

Cookie Crunch · 30-12-2008, 22:31

Quote:

100Hz is usually a waste of time

Sony's new 200Hz range does bring the giggle's to me... especially the AD campaign for it

http://www.sony.co.uk/article/id/1222694814831

stvn758 · 30-12-2008, 22:33

Buying Nike trainers don't make you run faster either - how many of you pragmatists are wearing cheap ones from Tesco.

bobcar · 30-12-2008, 22:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cookie Crunch

Sony's new 200Hz range does bring the giggle's to me... especially the AD campaign for it

http://www.sony.co.uk/article/id/1222694814831

Amazing, when showing something at 1Hz (or whatever) going to 4Hz makes a difference

They're probably very good TVs and should sell without the gimmicks, they would probably be even better if the money spent on 200Hz was spent elsewhere.

paulr2006 · 31-12-2008, 08:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cookie Crunch

If your going to be buying a good television like you are, £40 on a good HDMI cable can't be much to ask (not that I think it's needed) ... its more about the Blu-ray player though but if your going for the big setup just splash out on a 24k plated cable

Please buy a good blu-ray player

(SONY BDPS 350

) This outputs 24p as well which I didn't find in other brands when I bought mine...

Whilst I agree that the Sony S350 is a good BD player (I have one) it is hardly unique in that it outputs 1080P@24Hz almost every BD player does!

As for HDMI cables These are as good as any & cost £3.98

seacam · 31-12-2008, 09:47

Hello Player1

Quote:

Oh, and unlike scart, hdmi inputs don't auto switch so your TV won't autodetect a new source and switch itself...what it will do is detect the signal 1080i/1080/720p etc and autoswitch for that ( on the pre-selected source ) but that is all down to the TV and Blu-Ray, not the cable

No matter the quality or how much we spend on a HDMI cable.??

bobcar · 31-12-2008, 10:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by seacam

Hello Player1

No matter the quality or how much we spend on a HDMI cable.??

It's a digital carrier so as long as the cheap one works with no errors there is zero improvement when spending more. HDMI is not well specified (crap design) so over long distances an expensive cable will be needed but over short distances there is no problem at all and cheap is good.

seacam · 31-12-2008, 10:39

Hello bobcar,

Quote:

Why have you decided that all the TVs will be 1080p (presumably you mean 1920x1080 display) and 100Hz? Accepting a 1080p input (especially if 1080p24) is definitely good for Blu Ray but having the full resolution may or may not be worthwhile depending on the size/viewing distance. 100Hz is usually a waste of time and may make the picture worse especially if you can't turn it off.

From another thread, we are buying several TVs, we are not sold on a brand as yet but Panasonic, Toshiba, Samsung seem to be the main contenders for us.

I'm not a Sony fan but have to admit to being quite impressed with their TV range, it's past experience with the brand that make me reticent, but they are in with a chance.

1080p because that's what has been drummed into me, that and anything 42in or over should be this,---so I'm told.

42in because I can do a deal so to speak on several TVs, they fill a space and the watching distance will be 12-14 feet.

100Hz, because while my kids think I'm off my trolley, I can see a difference in picture movement, I can detect the difference between 50Hz and 100Hz,----I think.

Of course I'm not watching these TVs but as family can't tell the difference, I'm simply going for 100Hz.

Also, there will be DVD or BluRay players installed, won't 100Hz make a difference on play back?

You mention " turn off " I didn't know this was possible, can you recommend a TV you can do this with?

Still can't decide whether Plasma or LCD.

seacam · 31-12-2008, 11:02

Hello and thanks to every one who responded.

My reason for posting my question about HDMI cable was because the other day I spent 20 minutes in a London Comet store being lectured to as to why I should spend £96 on their 2mt of HDMI cable and a surge protector.

I was told it didn't matter the brand of BluRay it was the cable that counted.

Can any one spread some light on this 10.2 RGB subject to do with HDMI cable they were going on about?

bobcar · 31-12-2008, 11:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by seacam

Hello bobcar,

From another thread, we are buying several TVs, we are not sold on a brand as yet but Panasonic, Toshiba, Samsung seem to be the main contenders for us.

I'm not a Sony fan but have to admit to being quite impressed with their TV range, it's past experience with the brand that make me reticent, but they are in with a chance.

1080p because that's what has been drummed into me, that and anything 42in or over should be this,---so I'm told.

42in because I can do a deal so to speak on several TVs, they fill a space and the watching distance will be 12-14 feet.

Whether you need full HD depends upon the size AND viewing distance. At 12'-14' and 42" you definitely do not need full HD 1080p. In fact you don't really need HD though any 42" panels you buy will be HD ready anyway.

Quote:

100Hz, because while my kids think I'm off my trolley, I can see a difference in picture movement, I can detect the difference between 50Hz and 100Hz,----I think.

Of course I'm not watching these TVs but as family can't tell the difference, I'm simply going for 100Hz.

Some people can see flicker on CRTs at 50Hz (most can't, I certainly can't), for such people 100Hz is very good for CRTs. The same consideration does not apply to LCDs or plasmas. However I suggest you look at two otherwise identical TVs and see if you can see any difference - the 100Hz may well make the picture worse.

Quote:

Also, there will be DVD or BluRay players installed, won't 100Hz make a difference on play back?

The big thing for Blu Ray especially if you are badly affected by the jitter you can get from 24Hz to 60Hz (since you see flicker on 50Hz CRTS you may be) is to get a TV that will display at a multiple of 24 because films (and thus Blu Ray films) are produced at 24Hz.

Quote:

You mention " turn off " I didn't know this was possible, can you recommend a TV you can do this with?

On some TVs you can turn off the 100Hz processing - many have done this especially on CRTs because it introduces unwanted artefacts.

Quote:

Still can't decide whether Plasma or LCD.

You're best off going and looking at some - i prefer plasma but many people do not agree, it's a personal choice.

Incidentally plasmas tend to come in at 42" whereas LCD will probably be 40" and 46", given your viewing distance 46" would be better.

Nigel Goodwin · 31-12-2008, 11:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobcar

On some TVs you can turn off the 100Hz processing - many have done this especially on CRTs because it introduces unwanted artefacts.

I've still never seen a set that actually does this, even the ones that support an option to do so.

A 100Hz TV runs at double line and frame rate (as it has to, just like a computer monitor runs faster) - it runs at this rate regardless of any customer settings, so still has to digitise and store the picture and make it 100Hz.

Deacon1972 · 31-12-2008, 11:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

I've still never seen a set that actually does this, even the ones that support an option to do so.

A 100Hz TV runs at double line and frame rate (as it has to, just like a computer monitor runs faster) - it runs at this rate regardless of any customer settings, so still has to digitise and store the picture and make it 100Hz.

The Sony KV-36FS70 which I pointed you to a while ago gave the user the option to switch between DRC100 (100Hz) and DRC50 (50Hz).

This particular set did switch off 100Hz, I know this as I am susceptible to 50Hz flicker.

player1 · 31-12-2008, 11:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by seacam

Hello Player1

No matter the quality or how much we spend on a HDMI cable.??

Hi seacam...basically yes !

seacam · 31-12-2008, 12:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by player1

Hi seacam...basically yes !

Hi player1 and thanks.

You have no idea the crap I listened to the other day and believed it too.

Nigel Goodwin · 31-12-2008, 12:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deacon1972

The Sony KV-36FS70 which I pointed you to a while ago gave the user the option to switch between DRC100 (100Hz) and DRC50 (50Hz).

This particular set did switch off 100Hz, I know this as I am susceptible to 50Hz flicker.

It may re-introduce 50Hz flicker, but (as far as I can tell from the manual) it still runs at 100Hz, and still digitises the analogue picture giving the 'plastic' look to it.

sancheeez · 31-12-2008, 13:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by seacam

You have no idea the crap I listened to the other day and believed it too.

Print off this link:

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/hdmi-cabl...t-2-268788.php

... and take it into Comet and ram it down the guys throat.

wakey · 31-12-2008, 13:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by player1

Oh, and unlike scart, hdmi inputs don't auto switch so your TV won't autodetect a new source and switch itself...what it will do is detect the signal 1080i/1080/720p etc and autoswitch for that ( on the pre-selected source ) but that is all down to the TV and Blu-Ray, not the cable

Not completely true, a switch signal can be sent down the HDMI from the device. Its just not standard and its not a feature built into all equipment and different manufacturers don't always play well. My Sony BDP-S350 does switch my Samsung TV over to the HDMI. Hooking my laptop up doesnt auto switch, neither does my Chepo DVD upscaler. My Blu Ray wont switch on my cheaper and smaller LCD in the other room

seacam · 01-01-2009, 21:17

Thank you all for the advise.

Finally,--- I think----, we have decided for the bedrooms, Samsungs LE40A656A.

We have yet to decide on a brand or type for the 65inch in the lounge.

For my office I am going for a Panasonic TH46PZ8B and a Sony BluRay.

The above is a Plasma TV which if I understand correctly among other things is better if TV is in constant use/left on,---it wears better.

bobcar · 01-01-2009, 23:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by seacam

The above is a Plasma TV which if I understand correctly among other things is better if TV is in constant use/left on,---it wears better.

No, turn it off! It's true that it takes a while to get to optimum but there's no need to leave it switched on at all, apart from the fuel used it'll wear out quicker.

seacam · 01-01-2009, 23:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobcar

No, turn it off! It's true that it takes a while to get to optimum but there's no need to leave it switched on at all, apart from the fuel used it'll wear out quicker.

I didn't explain myself well, what I meant, I have a live update system to stock markets around the world which I will display on this TV as well as watching news programs and DVDs/BluRay.

I'm an incurable insomniac and work in my office all hours of the day and night.

Of the two is not plasma better then LCD for TVs that are in constant use?

How do you rate the Panasonic chosen?

bobcar · 02-01-2009, 02:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by seacam

I didn't explain myself well, what I meant, I have a live update system to stock markets around the world which I will display on this TV as well as watching news programs and DVDs/BluRay.

I'm an incurable insomniac and work in my office all hours of the day and night.

Of the two is not plasma better then LCD for TVs that are in constant use?

How do you rate the Panasonic chosen?

If you are displaying stock market information constantly you will have static images continuously on screen. In this case you are better off with LCD because of screen burn problems with plasma - for normal TV viewing this is not a problem on modern sets but you have a very special case.

If all you had on were stock markets then it wouldn't matter - but frankly you would only want a low quality display anyway. If you are only going for stock markets plus news I would be tempted by the lowest price LCD. If you are as well watching films etc on the Blu-ray then go for a better LCD - for corporate stuff etc go for a better LCD.

30-12-2008, 22:04	#1
seacam Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 15,308	BluRay & HDMI Cable Hello, We are still choosing our new TVs, what we have all agreed on is that all the TVs will be 1080p, 100 MHz units. Still haven't decided on brands of BluRay player, I am quite happy with Sony, altho' not a Sony fan, the wife and kids likes Panasonic. But is it true that the player is only as good as the HDMI cable, a bit like scart cable? I was given some information today that any cable I use should be 1080p certified and 10.2 RGB something or another. Let me put it another way, what should I be looking for in a HDMI cable? all the cables will be 2mt long. The HDMI cable I was shown could automacticly detect, something or another. Sorry this is a bad post, I was trying to take a lot on board, so it's somewhat vague.

30-12-2008, 22:20	#2
Cookie Crunch Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: London Posts: 182	If your going to be buying a good television like you are, £40 on a good HDMI cable can't be much to ask (not that I think it's needed) ... its more about the Blu-ray player though but if your going for the big setup just splash out on a 24k plated cable Please buy a good blu-ray player (SONY BDPS 350 ) This outputs 24p as well which I didn't find in other brands when I bought mine...

30-12-2008, 22:24	#3
Dave1979 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,513	For 2m it will not really matter what cable you get. A £5 from tesco will give the same results as a £100 cable. you only need the quality cable when you are looking at 10m or more. A search on any of the AV forums will back this up. I have various cables from the free cables that came with my V+ box to a £40 cable and I can see no difference with any of my sources including the V+, PS3, HD-DVD or bluray player.

30-12-2008, 22:27	#4
bobcar Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 14,718	Just in case Cookie's emoticons weren't obvious enough don't spend a lot of money on HDMI cables they make zero difference to the picture quality. (Exception being for very long cables). Why have you decided that all the TVs will be 1080p (presumably you mean 1920x1080 display) and 100Hz? Accepting a 1080p input (especially if 1080p24) is definitely good for Blu Ray but having the full resolution may or may not be worthwhile depending on the size/viewing distance. 100Hz is usually a waste of time and may make the picture worse especially if you can't turn it off.

30-12-2008, 22:28	#5
player1 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Glasgow Posts: 2,456	Quote: Originally Posted by Cookie Crunch If your going to be buying a good television like you are, £40 on a good HDMI cable can't be much to ask... its more about the Blu-ray player though but if your going for the big setup just splash out on a 24k plated cable Please buy a good blu-ray player (SONY BDPS 350 ) This outputs 24p as well which I didn't find in other brands when I bought mine,,, Sorry , completely disagree. hdmi is passing a digital signal and I doubt you will notice any improvement by buying a high grade cable...I would spend no more than a tenner in Tesco or Asda. Of course, this topic comes up over and over again and opinion is decidedly split so you will get both sides of the argument. Oh, and unlike scart, hdmi inputs don't auto switch so your TV won't autodetect a new source and switch itself...what it will do is detect the signal 1080i/1080/720p etc and autoswitch for that ( on the pre-selected source ) but that is all down to the TV and Blu-Ray, not the cable

30-12-2008, 22:31	#6
Cookie Crunch Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: London Posts: 182	Quote: 100Hz is usually a waste of time Sony's new 200Hz range does bring the giggle's to me... especially the AD campaign for it http://www.sony.co.uk/article/id/1222694814831

30-12-2008, 22:33	#7
stvn758 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 17,338	Buying Nike trainers don't make you run faster either - how many of you pragmatists are wearing cheap ones from Tesco.

30-12-2008, 22:42	#8
bobcar Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 14,718	Quote: Originally Posted by Cookie Crunch Sony's new 200Hz range does bring the giggle's to me... especially the AD campaign for it http://www.sony.co.uk/article/id/1222694814831 Amazing, when showing something at 1Hz (or whatever) going to 4Hz makes a difference They're probably very good TVs and should sell without the gimmicks, they would probably be even better if the money spent on 200Hz was spent elsewhere.

31-12-2008, 08:15	#9
paulr2006 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 1,098	Quote: Originally Posted by Cookie Crunch If your going to be buying a good television like you are, £40 on a good HDMI cable can't be much to ask (not that I think it's needed) ... its more about the Blu-ray player though but if your going for the big setup just splash out on a 24k plated cable Please buy a good blu-ray player (SONY BDPS 350 ) This outputs 24p as well which I didn't find in other brands when I bought mine... Whilst I agree that the Sony S350 is a good BD player (I have one) it is hardly unique in that it outputs 1080P@24Hz almost every BD player does! As for HDMI cables These are as good as any & cost £3.98

31-12-2008, 09:47	#10
seacam Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 15,308	Hello Player1 Quote: Oh, and unlike scart, hdmi inputs don't auto switch so your TV won't autodetect a new source and switch itself...what it will do is detect the signal 1080i/1080/720p etc and autoswitch for that ( on the pre-selected source ) but that is all down to the TV and Blu-Ray, not the cable No matter the quality or how much we spend on a HDMI cable.??

31-12-2008, 10:29	#11
bobcar Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 14,718	Quote: Originally Posted by seacam Hello Player1 No matter the quality or how much we spend on a HDMI cable.?? It's a digital carrier so as long as the cheap one works with no errors there is zero improvement when spending more. HDMI is not well specified (crap design) so over long distances an expensive cable will be needed but over short distances there is no problem at all and cheap is good.

31-12-2008, 10:39	#12
seacam Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 15,308	Hello bobcar, Quote: Why have you decided that all the TVs will be 1080p (presumably you mean 1920x1080 display) and 100Hz? Accepting a 1080p input (especially if 1080p24) is definitely good for Blu Ray but having the full resolution may or may not be worthwhile depending on the size/viewing distance. 100Hz is usually a waste of time and may make the picture worse especially if you can't turn it off. From another thread, we are buying several TVs, we are not sold on a brand as yet but Panasonic, Toshiba, Samsung seem to be the main contenders for us. I'm not a Sony fan but have to admit to being quite impressed with their TV range, it's past experience with the brand that make me reticent, but they are in with a chance. 1080p because that's what has been drummed into me, that and anything 42in or over should be this,---so I'm told. 42in because I can do a deal so to speak on several TVs, they fill a space and the watching distance will be 12-14 feet. 100Hz, because while my kids think I'm off my trolley, I can see a difference in picture movement, I can detect the difference between 50Hz and 100Hz,----I think. Of course I'm not watching these TVs but as family can't tell the difference, I'm simply going for 100Hz. Also, there will be DVD or BluRay players installed, won't 100Hz make a difference on play back? You mention " turn off " I didn't know this was possible, can you recommend a TV you can do this with? Still can't decide whether Plasma or LCD.

31-12-2008, 11:02	#13
seacam Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 15,308	Hello and thanks to every one who responded. My reason for posting my question about HDMI cable was because the other day I spent 20 minutes in a London Comet store being lectured to as to why I should spend £96 on their 2mt of HDMI cable and a surge protector. I was told it didn't matter the brand of BluRay it was the cable that counted. Can any one spread some light on this 10.2 RGB subject to do with HDMI cable they were going on about?

31-12-2008, 11:09	#14
bobcar Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 14,718	Quote: Originally Posted by seacam Hello bobcar, From another thread, we are buying several TVs, we are not sold on a brand as yet but Panasonic, Toshiba, Samsung seem to be the main contenders for us. I'm not a Sony fan but have to admit to being quite impressed with their TV range, it's past experience with the brand that make me reticent, but they are in with a chance. 1080p because that's what has been drummed into me, that and anything 42in or over should be this,---so I'm told. 42in because I can do a deal so to speak on several TVs, they fill a space and the watching distance will be 12-14 feet. Whether you need full HD depends upon the size AND viewing distance. At 12'-14' and 42" you definitely do not need full HD 1080p. In fact you don't really need HD though any 42" panels you buy will be HD ready anyway. Quote: 100Hz, because while my kids think I'm off my trolley, I can see a difference in picture movement, I can detect the difference between 50Hz and 100Hz,----I think. Of course I'm not watching these TVs but as family can't tell the difference, I'm simply going for 100Hz. Some people can see flicker on CRTs at 50Hz (most can't, I certainly can't), for such people 100Hz is very good for CRTs. The same consideration does not apply to LCDs or plasmas. However I suggest you look at two otherwise identical TVs and see if you can see any difference - the 100Hz may well make the picture worse. Quote: Also, there will be DVD or BluRay players installed, won't 100Hz make a difference on play back? The big thing for Blu Ray especially if you are badly affected by the jitter you can get from 24Hz to 60Hz (since you see flicker on 50Hz CRTS you may be) is to get a TV that will display at a multiple of 24 because films (and thus Blu Ray films) are produced at 24Hz. Quote: You mention " turn off " I didn't know this was possible, can you recommend a TV you can do this with? On some TVs you can turn off the 100Hz processing - many have done this especially on CRTs because it introduces unwanted artefacts. Quote: Still can't decide whether Plasma or LCD. You're best off going and looking at some - i prefer plasma but many people do not agree, it's a personal choice. Incidentally plasmas tend to come in at 42" whereas LCD will probably be 40" and 46", given your viewing distance 46" would be better.

31-12-2008, 11:14	#15
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by bobcar On some TVs you can turn off the 100Hz processing - many have done this especially on CRTs because it introduces unwanted artefacts. I've still never seen a set that actually does this, even the ones that support an option to do so. A 100Hz TV runs at double line and frame rate (as it has to, just like a computer monitor runs faster) - it runs at this rate regardless of any customer settings, so still has to digitise and store the picture and make it 100Hz.

31-12-2008, 11:28	#16
Deacon1972 Guest Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,103	Quote: Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin I've still never seen a set that actually does this, even the ones that support an option to do so. A 100Hz TV runs at double line and frame rate (as it has to, just like a computer monitor runs faster) - it runs at this rate regardless of any customer settings, so still has to digitise and store the picture and make it 100Hz. The Sony KV-36FS70 which I pointed you to a while ago gave the user the option to switch between DRC100 (100Hz) and DRC50 (50Hz). This particular set did switch off 100Hz, I know this as I am susceptible to 50Hz flicker.

31-12-2008, 11:56	#17
player1 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Glasgow Posts: 2,456	Quote: Originally Posted by seacam Hello Player1 No matter the quality or how much we spend on a HDMI cable.?? Hi seacam...basically yes !

31-12-2008, 12:15	#18
seacam Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 15,308	Quote: Originally Posted by player1 Hi seacam...basically yes ! Hi player1 and thanks. You have no idea the crap I listened to the other day and believed it too.

31-12-2008, 12:55	#19
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by Deacon1972 The Sony KV-36FS70 which I pointed you to a while ago gave the user the option to switch between DRC100 (100Hz) and DRC50 (50Hz). This particular set did switch off 100Hz, I know this as I am susceptible to 50Hz flicker. It may re-introduce 50Hz flicker, but (as far as I can tell from the manual) it still runs at 100Hz, and still digitises the analogue picture giving the 'plastic' look to it.

31-12-2008, 13:04	#20
sancheeez Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,762	Quote: Originally Posted by seacam You have no idea the crap I listened to the other day and believed it too. Print off this link: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/hdmi-cabl...t-2-268788.php ... and take it into Comet and ram it down the guys throat.

31-12-2008, 13:43	#21
wakey Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,763	Quote: Originally Posted by player1 Oh, and unlike scart, hdmi inputs don't auto switch so your TV won't autodetect a new source and switch itself...what it will do is detect the signal 1080i/1080/720p etc and autoswitch for that ( on the pre-selected source ) but that is all down to the TV and Blu-Ray, not the cable Not completely true, a switch signal can be sent down the HDMI from the device. Its just not standard and its not a feature built into all equipment and different manufacturers don't always play well. My Sony BDP-S350 does switch my Samsung TV over to the HDMI. Hooking my laptop up doesnt auto switch, neither does my Chepo DVD upscaler. My Blu Ray wont switch on my cheaper and smaller LCD in the other room

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01-01-2009, 21:17	#22
seacam Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 15,308	Thank you all for the advise. Finally,--- I think----, we have decided for the bedrooms, Samsungs LE40A656A. We have yet to decide on a brand or type for the 65inch in the lounge. For my office I am going for a Panasonic TH46PZ8B and a Sony BluRay. The above is a Plasma TV which if I understand correctly among other things is better if TV is in constant use/left on,---it wears better.

01-01-2009, 23:02	#23
bobcar Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 14,718	Quote: Originally Posted by seacam The above is a Plasma TV which if I understand correctly among other things is better if TV is in constant use/left on,---it wears better. No, turn it off! It's true that it takes a while to get to optimum but there's no need to leave it switched on at all, apart from the fuel used it'll wear out quicker.

01-01-2009, 23:20	#24
seacam Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 15,308	Quote: Originally Posted by bobcar No, turn it off! It's true that it takes a while to get to optimum but there's no need to leave it switched on at all, apart from the fuel used it'll wear out quicker. I didn't explain myself well, what I meant, I have a live update system to stock markets around the world which I will display on this TV as well as watching news programs and DVDs/BluRay. I'm an incurable insomniac and work in my office all hours of the day and night. Of the two is not plasma better then LCD for TVs that are in constant use? How do you rate the Panasonic chosen?

02-01-2009, 02:09	#25
bobcar Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 14,718	Quote: Originally Posted by seacam I didn't explain myself well, what I meant, I have a live update system to stock markets around the world which I will display on this TV as well as watching news programs and DVDs/BluRay. I'm an incurable insomniac and work in my office all hours of the day and night. Of the two is not plasma better then LCD for TVs that are in constant use? How do you rate the Panasonic chosen? If you are displaying stock market information constantly you will have static images continuously on screen. In this case you are better off with LCD because of screen burn problems with plasma - for normal TV viewing this is not a problem on modern sets but you have a very special case. If all you had on were stock markets then it wouldn't matter - but frankly you would only want a low quality display anyway. If you are only going for stock markets plus news I would be tempted by the lowest price LCD. If you are as well watching films etc on the Blu-ray then go for a better LCD - for corporate stuff etc go for a better LCD.