As he's accepted the OBE and CBE turning down the knighthood would be even stranger, really.

Those are generally not the civil servants who receive the top honours, those that grab the headlines and are top of the list in any particular category. Neither are they the ones that seem to get the honours "for simply doing their job" - they seem to get them because it's their turn, or they are on the point of retiring early with a nice pension.

ANyway, I'm sure that you know what I mean.

Perhaps he didn't offer enough money!

After all, it does seem that you can "buy" upgrades to your gongs.

30,000 staff at Woolworths get their P45s this week. Over 1 million will get their P45s within 12 months, including some in this forum.

Oh Brucie doesn't get his knighthood either.

A few observations: although it's less formal than it used to be, honours for services to theatre, show business and sport tend to be made at the Queen's Birthday honours list rather than the New Year's list (don't ask why). The Olympics were different as they were rewards for a specific achievement and hence acknowledged at the next possible occasion (as happened to England's rugby players in 2003 and cricketers in 2005). It also follows that Hoy could be knighted ahead of the expiration of any 5 year rule as his knighthood pertained specifically to his achievements in Beijing.

I would also guess that Ben Ainslie did not get a knighthood, nor Rebecca Adlington a CBE or higher, because they would then have nowhere to go should they win gold in 2012. In any case, the progression of honours for Ainslie has been identical to those for Sir Matthew Pinsent, who received the CBE after Sydney, his 3rd gold, and was then knighted after the Athens Olympics. (I would also suspect that Rebecca Adlington being 19 also put paid to any chance of becoming Dame Rebecca.)

Or you might say hundreds killed in the middle east, cholera in Zimbabwe, thousands starving to death in the third world. Oh and here we are spending our free time on a dancing forum.

Fingers crossed he will get one- he really deserves it!

Two years to go? Might not make that then, as doddery he most certainly is.

Can't say I am disappointed. I am fed up with honours going to entertainers anyway - just be in showbiz for an obligatory amount of years and people seem to think it is some kind of right. Actually, it is a pretty light hearted and self indulgent profession - and I don't think the charity work celebs undertake is anymore valid than the charity work your average Joe undertakes. There might be more money involved, the events more high profile, but charity is dealt with by their agents like everything else, and if I had a high profile, time and extra money I would do more charity work too.

Makes me cross. A few catch phrases, a bad wig and some Saturday night entertainment programs does not a knight make. The hooker who works the corner down the road from me fulfills that criteria too. Love you looong time...

..... at the same time as we were stuffing our faces on turkey, christmas pudding, cake, chocolate and wine.

Now, where did I put that hair shirt?

Maybe it was being hinted far too much..........but hey he got his honors 3 years ago and a salary to match his job...so he has nothing to feel sorry for.

Glad Chris Hoy got his.......

Why are so many people pushing for bruce to receive this, award?

Why does he deserve it? why does anyone deserve it? and please this is not a critisism, I'm just asking the question....?

Happy New Year people... x

I am not a fan of the Honours system and the way that it works (seemingly rewarding the Establishment figures and members of the old boys club above others), but accepting that it IS deeply flawed, and that others do get awards for seemingly little real contribution, I feel that Bruce should be part of that (not least for his unstinting contribution to entertainment and charity over the many years).

And why not.

I agree with that .

I actually want Brucie to get it, but I don't know why I want him too. When I see some of the people that get awarded I don't see why Brucie shouldn't.

The vast majority of honours go to those who have contibuted something to the nation.

Check out the list of those who got knight/ damehoods in the New Years honours system and you will see that on the whole they are NOT household names - just ordinary people making life better for others in some way or another.

Quite often people receive them for things other than their day job - my aunt who was a deputy head of a big school got an MBE for her work with the talking books people, and my mum's cousin (another teacher) got his MBE for his work on the cross community forum in N Ireland - nothing to do with their ordinary work.

Brucie is already an MBE and CBE so he HAS been rewarded for his contribution to the entertainment industry, not once but twice. Honours are not like the luvvie awards - there is no "lifetime achievement" award of a knighthood just because you have been in the business for 60 years or whatever, and no "progression" through the ranks either. You CAN be knighted without getting a lower honour, and you can beaver away quietly doing good works for your fellow man all your life and not even get nominated for an award

There are comparatively few "entertainment" top honours compared to the number awarded overall - and those who do have them are at the very top of their game.

Thank you Carol, you have explained it very well.

Make dear old Brucie a 'Sir' now, he does deserve it for his 60years of service to entertainment.

Lets put this to bed. He has already accepted TWO honours, the OBE and CBE for his contribution to entertainment. Why should he therefore be given a Knighthood when he has achieved nothing more than when he had his CBE.
Bruce has already been rewarded for his efforts.

For 60 years of giving us some of the best entertainment on the TV, a knighthood seems just about right.

Hi

I'm fairly new here but I've been on forums for many years and done admin toooooo

I've read most of the comments on site here and thought that I would drop in and add a few thoughts

The 15,000 internet campaign referred to is my Group on Facebook "Give Bruce Forsyth a Knighthood" - do please join!

A matter often not referred to is that in February 2008, there was a motion by 41 MP's in the House of Commons urging the government to award Bruce Forsyth a Knighthood. The motion referred to Bruce Forsyth as a "National Institution" and noted that Bruce has made an "outstanding contribution to British culture" and "brought about general happiness" in his 6 decades in entertainment and also referred to his "unstinting work for charity". The motion was raised following Bruce not being knighted that New Year ie 2007/2008.

Bruce's jump into the limelight was when he took over Sunday Night at the London Palladium in 1958 and following on he has been pulling in audiences to other family entertainment shows like the Generation Game, Play Your Cards Right, and of course SCD. Whilst SCD audiences have been around the 11 / 12 million mark, the Bruce Forsyth Generation Game regularly pulled in audiences of over 20 million for Saturday night FAMILY entertainment.

In the previous New Years Honours, the excuse for not knighting Bruce was that "they" wanted to wait til Bruce was in his 80th year. Bruce was 80 in February 2008. The red herring this time is that there is a "waiting period" of 4 or 5 years after the award of the CBE in 2006. That's just bull of course!

I don't think it had an effect, but there were reports at the beginning of December that the bookies had taken some huge bets on Bruce being knighted and the odds had been reduced from 33-1 down to 2-1 on! The bookies did stand to lose a fortune, but I can't think that that would have resulted in Bruce not receiving the knighthood.

The "Give Bruce Forsyth a Knighthood" Group membership has jumped by 1000 in the last 3 days. That together with 7 radio interviews and further press interviews reflects the strength of feeling!

I think The Sunday Mirror has come up with the best headline so far - Bruce Forsyth is a Sir in the public's eyes

Come and join us

As I said in my opening post, he won't be getting one because of this five year rule. This was set out in the Telegraph last week.

The five year rule is something that can be got around easily enough if people want to however - Elton John only waited 3 years after his CBE to get his knighthood for example. The fact that it's being cited in Bruce's cases rather indicates that the people who decide these things don't want to get around it. The cynic inside me suspects this may not be entirely unrelated to the political complexion of the current government and the fact that Brucie is IIRC one of the few relatively high profile celebrity supporters of the Conservative Party. Petty spite, in other words.

(Oh, and to address an earlier post which makes a point that often comes up on these occasions - these awards have very little to do with the Queen. They're recommended to HM by the Prime Minister, and the usual convention is that she accepts the recommendations in total. The only awards the Queen decides on personally are those of the Royal Victorian Order, and they tend usually to go to people who have been of service to the royals directly or are close to them in some other manner. I doubt Brucie qualifies, and even if he did I doubt the Queen would give him a KCVO now - given the increasing controversy over the lack of a knighthood to Bruce it would look too much like a rebuke to the government of the day, which HM usually tries to avoid.)

Hear hear!! There's far more deserving people out there that should be awarded knighthoods.

I did not realise that there was a 15,000 signature internet campaign to get good old Brucie knighted, how fantastic, thank you for that information Dr Blockbuster, it is much appreciated, the newspaper headline as you say does sum things up for much of the public.

'Bruce Forsyth is a Sir in the publics eyes' , what a great sentiment.

It was very interesting to see old black and white footage recently of good old Brucie hosting Sunday Night at the London Palladium many years ago, which at the time was a true live broadcast, without all the delays and nonsense with miming and lipsinking that you get nowerdays. Having to present a true live TV broadcast every Sunday night was a tremendous achievement, and Brucie's performances with Sammy Davis Junior were legendary.

It is much better watching you in colour now Brucie!

Lets all sign up to try and get good old Brucie his knighthood, which he thoroughly deserves.

Arise Sir Brucie, and keep on dancing till we see you next year.

Indeeeeeeed ... and the matter shall not be put to bed

We have over 1,000 new members, near 16,000 now and just did another radio interview on BBC Radio Humberside with Peter Levy.

This "five year rule" is NO RULE and Gordon Brown knows that.

Come and join us if you are like minded ... don't bother if you're not

Dr Blockbuster
Give Bruce Forsyth a Knighthood

Out of interest - I couldn't give a fiddle if Bruce gets a knighthood or if Bruce does not get a knighthood - what are his charitable undertakings? It simply occurred to me since I assume Sir Elton, for example, got his for the mega bucks he's raised for AIDS.