Set up help please

oxford4eyes · 02-01-2009, 15:16

Hi i got as follows
Phillips 42pfl5522d lcd tv
phillps lx3600d digital surround system
Amstrad skydigital box
Philips dvdr5520h dvd recorder and hdd.
It was all working fine till i replaced the dvd which was a
Samung dvd-sh853m.
If you need more i will post more

the hamster · 02-01-2009, 15:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by oxford4eyes

If you need more i will post more

Telling us what it does or doesnt do would be a big help

Which components dont work, is it sound or vision or both?

oxford4eyes · 03-01-2009, 13:29

Well i can watch tv and sky thought ext 1 but i can't get nothing to go thought ext 2.So i can only record tv and digital tv no sky i am really confused.
ps i hope this helps

MrGiles2 · 03-01-2009, 14:53

If you are using scart leads for both connections, sky and DVD player or wotever, you can connect sky to AV1 or Ext1, and connect a scart lead from your DVD player to AV2 or Ext2. They should open automatically on screen once you switch them on, as long as you dont switch both on at the same time.

I have 6 scart leads connected as well as 3 HDMI leads which means I have to use a scart connection box for both DVD/VCR recorders, Multi Region DVD player, and V+ decoder and Sky decoder.

If there is nothing showing on Ext2 you could have a faulty scart lead, so check that out first by switching scart leads around.

Good luck!

oxford4eyes · 03-01-2009, 15:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrGiles2

If you are using scart leads for both connections, sky and DVD player or wotever, you can connect sky to AV1 or Ext1, and connect a scart lead from your DVD player to AV2 or Ext2. They should open automatically on screen once you switch them on, as long as you dont switch both on at the same time.

I have 6 scart leads connected as well as 3 HDMI leads which means I have to use a scart connection box for both DVD/VCR recorders, Multi Region DVD player, and V+ decoder and Sky decoder.

If there is nothing showing on Ext2 you could have a faulty scart lead, so check that out first by switching scart leads around.

Good luck!

Cheers i will try that and let you know how i get on.

oxford4eyes · 05-01-2009, 13:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrGiles2

If you are using scart leads for both connections, sky and DVD player or wotever, you can connect sky to AV1 or Ext1, and connect a scart lead from your DVD player to AV2 or Ext2. They should open automatically on screen once you switch them on, as long as you dont switch both on at the same time.

I have 6 scart leads connected as well as 3 HDMI leads which means I have to use a scart connection box for both DVD/VCR recorders, Multi Region DVD player, and V+ decoder and Sky decoder.

If there is nothing showing on Ext2 you could have a faulty scart lead, so check that out first by switching scart leads around.

Good luck!

Thanks tried all the above but still no joy

Helppppppppp please

Willie Wontie · 05-01-2009, 13:50

Instead of only telling us the equipment that you have, why not also tell us how the equipment is connected to one another? For example:

Sky TV scart to TV AV1.
Sky VCR scart to DVDR AV1.
DVDR AV2 to TV AV2.

etc etc etc.

That way, we can at least begin to guess what piece of equipment needs what settings putting into it.

Scorpio · 05-01-2009, 19:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by oxford4eyes

Hi i got as follows
Phillips 42pfl5522d lcd tv
phillps lx3600d digital surround system
Amstrad skydigital box
Philips dvdr5520h dvd recorder and hdd.
It was all working fine till i replaced the dvd which was a
Samung dvd-sh853m.
If you need more i will post more

No doubt the scart sockets were labelled differently (or the like) and you have an output only scart socket connected where you once had input/output.

See previous post from WW for more info on the obvious spaghetti you are dealing with and we will try to unravel it!

Scorp

oxford4eyes · 06-01-2009, 15:20

Right i am doing as follows
tv to dvd/hdd HDMI
Scart 1 tv to scart 1 dvd/hdd
scart 2 to scart on home theater (only 1 scart on HT)
Sky scart to dvd/hdd scart 2
audio left and right from tv to home t.
then audio sky to h t.
Just tried it and i get as follows
HDMI dvd/hdd
Ext 1 sky but only when dvd/hdd is on so can't watch sky without dvd/hdd being on which is not right??????????
Ext 2 H T And records sky?

Deacon1972 · 06-01-2009, 15:34

Might be wrong here.

First off remove the scart from DVD to TV as it's already connected via HDMI - then.........

DVDr HDMI -> TV HDMI
Sky scart (TV) -> TV AV1/AV2
Sky scart (VCR) -> DVDr AV1 if it's input/output, if not AV2
HT scart -> TV AV1/AV2
Sky audio outs -> HT audio ins

If you only have one RGB input on the TV it's up to you which you have connected, Sky or Phillips HT.

Scorpio · 06-01-2009, 18:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deacon1972

Might be wrong here.

First off remove the scart from DVD to TV as it's already connected via HDMI - then.........

DVDr HDMI -> TV HDMI
Sky scart (TV) -> TV AV1/AV2
Sky scart (VCR) -> DVDr AV1 if it's input/output, if not AV2
HT scart -> TV AV1/AV2
Sky audio outs -> HT audio ins

If you only have one RGB input on the TV it's up to you which you have connected, Sky or Phillips HT.

A couple of improvements.....

Sky scart (TV) -> DVDR AV2 (as now)
DVDR HDMI -> TV HDMI (as now)
Remove scart from DVDR to TV as suggested above
remove audio lead from sky to HT as this is superfluous (you cant get anything other than stereo/DPL from here so just use the phono lead from the back of TV to HT, gives identical result).
When playing DVDs use HT for full DD 5.1 sound
To record Sky set DVDR to AV2
Should pass Sky signal through to TV when DVDR in standby.
If you need to record digital but watch Sky then connect scart from Sky VCR socket to TV AV2

BUT......seriously...............get Sky+, no sky subscriber should be messing about with a vin ordinaire Sky box and be recording to a DVDR.
YES, use a DVDR for archiving back from Sky+ but once you've had one, there will be no more of these complex posts!!

Scorp
TV AV1/AV2

oxford4eyes · 07-01-2009, 15:16

Done it at last
T V scart 1 to sky2
T V scart 2 to HT
Sky 1 vcr to dvdr 2

Scorpio · 07-01-2009, 17:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by oxford4eyes

Done it at last
T V scart 1 to sky2
T V scart 2 to HT
Sky 1 vcr to dvdr 2

Good!

It's funny that people who struggle to understand connectivity invariably document connections like this

T V scart 1 to sky2

when others who seem to get on better would say

Sky TV scart ---> TV AV1

emphasising the route that the signal would take.
I always start with the input devices and work out the rout to get to the display or audio device NOT the other way round............

Just a thought.

Scorp

oxford4eyes · 08-01-2009, 15:51

Only problem i got now is when like last night i used the guide plus+ system to record waterloo road but when i went to watch it it was blank???? I should of just recorded from bbc 1.So got guide plus+ but can't use it???????????

Scorpio · 08-01-2009, 17:27

Is guide+ the EPG for your DVDR?
Can you use this for recording digital programs off-air?

Have you tuned in all the digital channels?
Have you the appropriate RF cabling in your set up?
Did you press the 'timer record' button?

Rgds,
scorp

oxford4eyes · 08-01-2009, 18:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpio

Is guide+ the EPG for your DVDR?
Can you use this for recording digital programs off-air?

Have you tuned in all the digital channels?
Have you the appropriate RF cabling in your set up?
Did you press the 'timer record' button?

Rgds,
scorp

Yes done all that

bazzah · 08-01-2009, 20:25

You may find this auto-connector helps.

Reading through this page may help, too.

( Not suggesting that earlier explanations are inadequate, I'm merely offering an alternative/additional option )

Scorpio · 08-01-2009, 20:48

when you set up a recording via guide plus, what does the window on the recorder show (recording light, channel? etc)

Scorp

oxford4eyes · 09-01-2009, 10:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpio

when you set up a recording via guide plus, what does the window on the recorder show (recording light, channel? etc)

Scorp

Ext 2 no conection

oxford4eyes · 09-01-2009, 10:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by oxford4eyes

Ext 2 no conection

Sozs got it wrong it says
No signal detected

ext 1

Last edited by oxford4eyes : 09-01-2009 at 10:51. Reason: spelling

02-01-2009, 15:16	#1
oxford4eyes Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: oxford Posts: 884	Set up help please Hi i got as follows Phillips 42pfl5522d lcd tv phillps lx3600d digital surround system Amstrad skydigital box Philips dvdr5520h dvd recorder and hdd. It was all working fine till i replaced the dvd which was a Samung dvd-sh853m. If you need more i will post more

08-01-2009, 20:25	#17
bazzah Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 12	Set up help please You may find this auto-connector helps. Reading through this page may help, too. ( Not suggesting that earlier explanations are inadequate, I'm merely offering an alternative/additional option ) Last edited by bazzah : 08-01-2009 at 20:35. Reason: Additional info

02-01-2009, 15:33	#2
the hamster Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: AA Aerials, Grantham & Melton Posts: 1,034	Quote: Originally Posted by oxford4eyes If you need more i will post more Telling us what it does or doesnt do would be a big help Which components dont work, is it sound or vision or both?

03-01-2009, 13:29	#3
oxford4eyes Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: oxford Posts: 884	Well i can watch tv and sky thought ext 1 but i can't get nothing to go thought ext 2.So i can only record tv and digital tv no sky i am really confused. ps i hope this helps

03-01-2009, 14:53	#4
MrGiles2 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Teesside Posts: 1,940	If you are using scart leads for both connections, sky and DVD player or wotever, you can connect sky to AV1 or Ext1, and connect a scart lead from your DVD player to AV2 or Ext2. They should open automatically on screen once you switch them on, as long as you dont switch both on at the same time. I have 6 scart leads connected as well as 3 HDMI leads which means I have to use a scart connection box for both DVD/VCR recorders, Multi Region DVD player, and V+ decoder and Sky decoder. If there is nothing showing on Ext2 you could have a faulty scart lead, so check that out first by switching scart leads around. Good luck!

03-01-2009, 15:31	#5
oxford4eyes Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: oxford Posts: 884	Quote: Originally Posted by MrGiles2 If you are using scart leads for both connections, sky and DVD player or wotever, you can connect sky to AV1 or Ext1, and connect a scart lead from your DVD player to AV2 or Ext2. They should open automatically on screen once you switch them on, as long as you dont switch both on at the same time. I have 6 scart leads connected as well as 3 HDMI leads which means I have to use a scart connection box for both DVD/VCR recorders, Multi Region DVD player, and V+ decoder and Sky decoder. If there is nothing showing on Ext2 you could have a faulty scart lead, so check that out first by switching scart leads around. Good luck! Cheers i will try that and let you know how i get on.

05-01-2009, 13:42	#6
oxford4eyes Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: oxford Posts: 884	Quote: Originally Posted by MrGiles2 If you are using scart leads for both connections, sky and DVD player or wotever, you can connect sky to AV1 or Ext1, and connect a scart lead from your DVD player to AV2 or Ext2. They should open automatically on screen once you switch them on, as long as you dont switch both on at the same time. I have 6 scart leads connected as well as 3 HDMI leads which means I have to use a scart connection box for both DVD/VCR recorders, Multi Region DVD player, and V+ decoder and Sky decoder. If there is nothing showing on Ext2 you could have a faulty scart lead, so check that out first by switching scart leads around. Good luck! Thanks tried all the above but still no joy Helppppppppp please

05-01-2009, 13:50	#7
Willie Wontie Inactive Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,847	Instead of only telling us the equipment that you have, why not also tell us how the equipment is connected to one another? For example: Sky TV scart to TV AV1. Sky VCR scart to DVDR AV1. DVDR AV2 to TV AV2. etc etc etc. That way, we can at least begin to guess what piece of equipment needs what settings putting into it.

05-01-2009, 19:07	#8
Scorpio Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Somerset Posts: 3,048	Quote: Originally Posted by oxford4eyes Hi i got as follows Phillips 42pfl5522d lcd tv phillps lx3600d digital surround system Amstrad skydigital box Philips dvdr5520h dvd recorder and hdd. It was all working fine till i replaced the dvd which was a Samung dvd-sh853m. If you need more i will post more No doubt the scart sockets were labelled differently (or the like) and you have an output only scart socket connected where you once had input/output. See previous post from WW for more info on the obvious spaghetti you are dealing with and we will try to unravel it! Scorp

06-01-2009, 15:20	#9
oxford4eyes Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: oxford Posts: 884	Right i am doing as follows tv to dvd/hdd HDMI Scart 1 tv to scart 1 dvd/hdd scart 2 to scart on home theater (only 1 scart on HT) Sky scart to dvd/hdd scart 2 audio left and right from tv to home t. then audio sky to h t. Just tried it and i get as follows HDMI dvd/hdd Ext 1 sky but only when dvd/hdd is on so can't watch sky without dvd/hdd being on which is not right?????????? Ext 2 H T And records sky?

06-01-2009, 15:34	#10
Deacon1972 Guest Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,103	Might be wrong here. First off remove the scart from DVD to TV as it's already connected via HDMI - then......... DVDr HDMI -> TV HDMI Sky scart (TV) -> TV AV1/AV2 Sky scart (VCR) -> DVDr AV1 if it's input/output, if not AV2 HT scart -> TV AV1/AV2 Sky audio outs -> HT audio ins If you only have one RGB input on the TV it's up to you which you have connected, Sky or Phillips HT.

06-01-2009, 18:19	#11
Scorpio Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Somerset Posts: 3,048	Quote: Originally Posted by Deacon1972 Might be wrong here. First off remove the scart from DVD to TV as it's already connected via HDMI - then......... DVDr HDMI -> TV HDMI Sky scart (TV) -> TV AV1/AV2 Sky scart (VCR) -> DVDr AV1 if it's input/output, if not AV2 HT scart -> TV AV1/AV2 Sky audio outs -> HT audio ins If you only have one RGB input on the TV it's up to you which you have connected, Sky or Phillips HT. A couple of improvements..... Sky scart (TV) -> DVDR AV2 (as now) DVDR HDMI -> TV HDMI (as now) Remove scart from DVDR to TV as suggested above remove audio lead from sky to HT as this is superfluous (you cant get anything other than stereo/DPL from here so just use the phono lead from the back of TV to HT, gives identical result). When playing DVDs use HT for full DD 5.1 sound To record Sky set DVDR to AV2 Should pass Sky signal through to TV when DVDR in standby. If you need to record digital but watch Sky then connect scart from Sky VCR socket to TV AV2 BUT......seriously...............get Sky+, no sky subscriber should be messing about with a vin ordinaire Sky box and be recording to a DVDR. YES, use a DVDR for archiving back from Sky+ but once you've had one, there will be no more of these complex posts!! Scorp TV AV1/AV2

07-01-2009, 15:16	#12
oxford4eyes Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: oxford Posts: 884	Done it at last T V scart 1 to sky2 T V scart 2 to HT Sky 1 vcr to dvdr 2

07-01-2009, 17:08	#13
Scorpio Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Somerset Posts: 3,048	Quote: Originally Posted by oxford4eyes Done it at last T V scart 1 to sky2 T V scart 2 to HT Sky 1 vcr to dvdr 2 Good! It's funny that people who struggle to understand connectivity invariably document connections like this T V scart 1 to sky2 when others who seem to get on better would say Sky TV scart ---> TV AV1 emphasising the route that the signal would take. I always start with the input devices and work out the rout to get to the display or audio device NOT the other way round............ Just a thought. Scorp

08-01-2009, 15:51	#14
oxford4eyes Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: oxford Posts: 884	Only problem i got now is when like last night i used the guide plus+ system to record waterloo road but when i went to watch it it was blank???? I should of just recorded from bbc 1.So got guide plus+ but can't use it???????????

08-01-2009, 17:27	#15
Scorpio Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Somerset Posts: 3,048	Is guide+ the EPG for your DVDR? Can you use this for recording digital programs off-air? Have you tuned in all the digital channels? Have you the appropriate RF cabling in your set up? Did you press the 'timer record' button? Rgds, scorp

08-01-2009, 18:44	#16
oxford4eyes Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: oxford Posts: 884	Quote: Originally Posted by Scorpio Is guide+ the EPG for your DVDR? Can you use this for recording digital programs off-air? Have you tuned in all the digital channels? Have you the appropriate RF cabling in your set up? Did you press the 'timer record' button? Rgds, scorp Yes done all that

08-01-2009, 20:48	#18
Scorpio Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Somerset Posts: 3,048	when you set up a recording via guide plus, what does the window on the recorder show (recording light, channel? etc) Scorp

09-01-2009, 10:04	#19
oxford4eyes Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: oxford Posts: 884	Quote: Originally Posted by Scorpio when you set up a recording via guide plus, what does the window on the recorder show (recording light, channel? etc) Scorp Ext 2 no conection

09-01-2009, 10:38	#20
oxford4eyes Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: oxford Posts: 884	Quote: Originally Posted by oxford4eyes Ext 2 no conection Sozs got it wrong it says No signal detected ext 1 Last edited by oxford4eyes : 09-01-2009 at 10:51. Reason: spelling

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