Advice from Technology Experts on Onkyo-22HD

XPC465 · 04-01-2009, 16:50

Hi there to you all. All your previous posts in my last thread about setting up my surround sound system correctly were much appreciated, and after many months of trying, I now accept that my system is outdated.
All I want to do is have good surround sound, for a DVD player, and either Freesat or Freeview, on my television.
I have both Freesat, from my sky dish, and Freeview, from a digital roof aerial, running into my livingroom, for me to choose which I view.
I have spent most of the day, perusing reviews regarding surround sound, and was quite interested in the ONKYO HTX-22HD, which is very reasonable for having such a good review. As someone who does NOT know the first thing about this subject, I have many queries I would like answered by an expert, or someone who is learned with these things. My first question is obviously: Will this system fulfil my needs to get 5.1 surround from my Panasonic 42" Plasma TV, a DVD player, AND either Freesat or Freeview. QUESTION 2/ Is my present Panasonic speakers; Front Input 170W Max; Surround Input 70W Max;
Centre Speaker 270Wmax; compatible with theONKYO HTX-22HD or not. and QUESTION 3: Is there any drawbacks in using this system, remembering I only want good 5.1. surround sound from my DVD player and Television.
The complete run down and reviews of this system was found on cnet.uk in the review category.
Would a kind expert please answer my queries and give me their opinion and advice, so that I can take replacing my sound system a bit further.
Many thanks to all who offer advice.

Deacon1972 · 04-01-2009, 17:19

First off you won't get 5.1 from your TV (Freeview), at best you will only get DPL surround.

You will get 5.1 from an external DVD player and Sky+.

The Onkyo will allow you to connect your DVD/Sky+ via optical/coaxial for 5.1.

You will be able to connect the TV to the Onkyo via the TV's audio outputs for DPL.

I don't see any reason why you can't use the centre and surrounds from your old system to make the Onkyo a full 5.1 system, the amplification is not that powerful and the power ratings for the Panasonic speakers will be overrated. The only reservation I would have is they may not tonally match.

If you are not comfortable using them I doubt the extra Onkyo speakers will be that much more to complete the system.

I would be inclined to go for the extra speakers from Onkyo.

XPC465 · 04-01-2009, 18:25

Many thanks for that Deacon 1972. As I said I do not know the first thing about such things, so I would very much appreciate your help.
Is it possible to get a system whereby 5.1 good surround sound would be obtainable with both Sky+ and Freeview, or does Freeview not suppport 5.1 surround. I very rarely use Freeview any, but the about 2 or 3 channels differ to Sky+.
I was trying to find a system which would give me good 5.1 surround sound on Sky+, and if possible Freeview, and defititely a DVD player, costing around £200- £300. What would your advice be, knowing the ins and outs of this subject. Many thanks for your help.

the hamster · 04-01-2009, 18:50

Please remember, sky only outputs 5.1 on the major movie channels and sports channels. For the majority of your viewing the channel will only be outputting a stereo signal which the amplifier will decode and give you PRO LOGIC surround.

You cannot get 5.1 on all channels all the time, in fact you are likely to get pro logic 99% of the time depending on your subscription.

Deacon1972 · 04-01-2009, 18:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPC465

Many thanks for that Deacon 1972. As I said I do not know the first thing about such things, so I would very much appreciate your help.
Is it possible to get a system whereby 5.1 good surround sound would be obtainable with both Sky+ and Freeview, or does Freeview not suppport 5.1 surround. I very rarely use Freeview any, but the about 2 or 3 channels differ to Sky+.
I was trying to find a system which would give me good 5.1 surround sound on Sky+, and if possible Freeview, and defititely a DVD player, costing around £200- £300. What would your advice be, knowing the ins and outs of this subject. Many thanks for your help.

Freeview doesn't support 5.1 - the closest you will get is DPL surround.

DPL surround is designed to take a stereo source like Freeview and replay it via a multichannel system (5.1/6.1/7.1). It's not as good as a dedicated 5.1 soundtrack but it can sound pretty convincing on movies.

The system you mentioned will give you 5.1 from an external DVD player and Sky+ where available and DPL via Freeview.

There are other systems out there that fit your bill.

The Yamaha AV63 @ £200 - this system comprises of an av receiver and speaker package, it has all the connections you need.

http://www.digitaldirect.co.uk/yamah...ackage-63.html

XPC465 · 04-01-2009, 19:07

Many thanks for that the hamster. I now only use freesat, as I did not agree to my Sky+ package being increased from £32.00 to £47.00 in the four year I subscribed to it.
That was nearly £4 a year.
As I am determined to get my surround sound sorted out, I would appreciate any help, advice and recommendations given to me. As I am getting on a bit in years, could you define (if it is not a stupid question) the difference between 5.1 surround sound and pro-logic surround sound.
My present set up gives reasonable surround sound from the DVD player, which is part of the home surround sound amp. but the television has NO effect on the rear speakers at all. As I stated earlier I would like a good surround sound from both a DVD player and the television. Any further advice, remembering I would rather keep the cost below £300 if possible, would be appreciated. Also if I could purchase a system whereby I could continue using my Panasonic speakers which are immaculate, in an attempt to get a better system by avoiding paying for extra speakers.

Deacon1972 · 04-01-2009, 19:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPC465

As I am determined to get my surround sound sorted out, I would appreciate any help, advice and recommendations given to me. As I am getting on a bit in years, could you define (if it is not a stupid question) the difference between 5.1 surround sound and pro-logic surround sound.

I have already given a simple explanation on the difference in post#5, if you would like a more detailed explanation this is available on Dolby's site.

Dolby Digital

DPLII

DPLIIx

XPC465 · 04-01-2009, 19:40

Many thanks for that Deacon1972, your help has been much appreciated. I DO NOT intend putting you on the spot, but out of the 2 packages I have looked at the ONKYO or the one in your last post, which would the most suitable as regards functions etc. to fulfil my needs for good 5.1 surround sound from DVD player and either SKY+ or FREEVIEW. I finally think I am getting somewhere with this problem. Many many thanks.

tellytart1 · 04-01-2009, 19:42

Freeview (well, the DVB-T specification) can support DD5.1 sound, its just that the broadcasters choose not to broadcast it, mainly due to bandwidth contrstaints - stereo audio at 192k as well as a DD bitstream at up to 448k - do that with all TV channels in a MUX and either you compress harder and make the picture worse, or you lose a few radio channels or a TV channel to make the space.

(ProSieben in Germany broadcast DD over DVB-T, as do several Australian DVB-T broadcasters)

Deacon1972 · 04-01-2009, 19:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPC465

Many thanks for that Deacon1972, your help has been much appreciated. I DO NOT intend putting you on the spot, but out of the 2 packages I have looked at the ONKYO or the one in your last post, which would the most suitable as regards functions etc. to fulfil my needs for good 5.1 surround sound from DVD player and either SKY+ or FREEVIEW. I finally think I am getting somewhere with this problem. Many many thanks.

Not knowing what the Panasonic main speakers are like or whether the sub can be connected to a dedicated receiver, it would be a toss up between either the Yamaha RXV361 @ £120 or the Yamaha RXV363 @ £170 where I would use existing speakers or get the Yamaha AV63 system.

XPC465 · 05-01-2009, 13:56

I would just like to take this opportunity, of thanking all the people who have helped me in the building of a new and efficient surround sound system for my TV etc.
Having perused all the replies to my various threads on the subject, I have today ordered and paid for the following:

SONY STRDG820 av amplifier, which has 4 HDMI inputs.

I am hoping to use this in conjunction with my present set of Panasonic speakers, to achieve my 5.1 surround sound system, which I do hope proves successful. The only downside to this, is the fact that I cannot use my present Panasonic subwoofer, to which the speakers actually connect, in the panasonic system. I therefor will be without a subwoofer, until such times as I find out what type and size of subwoofer I require. Any advice on this would be appreciated.

Once again, Many many thanks to you all, for all your help.

Deacon1972 · 05-01-2009, 14:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPC465

I would just like to take this opportunity, of thanking all the people who have helped me in the building of a new and efficient surround sound system for my TV etc.
Having perused all the replies to my various threads on the subject, I have today ordered and paid for the following:

SONY STRDG820 av amplifier, which has 4 HDMI inputs.

I am hoping to use this in conjunction with my present set of Panasonic speakers, to achieve my 5.1 surround sound system, which I do hope proves successful. The only downside to this, is the fact that I cannot use my present Panasonic subwoofer, to which the speakers actually connect, in the panasonic system. I therefor will be without a subwoofer, until such times as I find out what type and size of subwoofer I require. Any advice on this would be appreciated.

Once again, Many many thanks to you all, for all your help.

You will be looking for an active sub, one that will have it's own amplification built in, it will connect to the Sony via a single phono cable.

They do vary in price, the low cost versions are not really upto the job, a sub is designed to output the low frequencies, many do a poor job, to get something that has some punch you really need to choose wisely.

A decent sub can make a whole lot of difference to how your system will sound overall.

Have a look at a manufacturer called BK, their subs are real value for money.

Something like the Gemini would fit the bill - it has 150watts and has a realistic 30Hz for the LF. Comes in at £200, personally I wouldn't go for anything less. The quality of the bass gets better the higher up the range you go.

http://www.bkelec.com/HiFi/Sub_Woofers.htm

XPC465 · 05-01-2009, 21:44

Many thanks again for that Deacon1972. I won't be buying a subwoofer for a week or two, and until then I suppose it will be o.k. to use system without subwoofer.
Before finishing with this thread, I require your help a little bit more, to answer the following queries:-

1. Will the system have instructions on how to connect my
Plasma screen, Sky+ box, and DVD player to the sound
amplifier;
2. Will I need any cables which will NOT be supplied
with the amplifier;
3. Due to the rear speakers having been connected to
the subwoofer with the Panasonic system, I think
the cable for one of the rear speakers may be a yard
or two short. Will making a join and adding an extra
piece, reduce the sound quality. The cables were
placed under the living room carpet, during last
decorating time.

The delivery time for the amplifier is 3 - 5 days, and I would like to prepare everything, as regards necessary cables, before it arrives, to delay installing it.
Many thanks again.

Deacon1972 · 05-01-2009, 22:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPC465

Many thanks again for that Deacon1972. I won't be buying a subwoofer for a week or two, and until then I suppose it will be o.k. to use system without subwoofer.
Before finishing with this thread, I require your help a little bit more, to answer the following queries:-

1. Will the system have instructions on how to connect my
Plasma screen, Sky+ box, and DVD player to the sound
amplifier;
2. Will I need any cables which will NOT be supplied
with the amplifier;
3. Due to the rear speakers having been connected to
the subwoofer with the Panasonic system, I think
the cable for one of the rear speakers may be a yard
or two short. Will making a join and adding an extra
piece, reduce the sound quality. The cables were
placed under the living room carpet, during last
decorating time.

The delivery time for the amplifier is 3 - 5 days, and I would like to prepare everything, as regards necessary cables, before it arrives, to delay installing it.
Many thanks again.

1) Yes - it should have detailed diagrams on how to connect external equipment and what cables are required.

2) Yes - you will need 1x optical cable for Sky+.

1x optical/coaxial for the DVD player.

1 pair of phonos or optical cable depending on your TV's audio outputs.

3) To join the cables just use a small terminal block or just tape them up using insulating tape, I doubt you will notice any drop in quality.

XPC465 · 08-01-2009, 13:24

Deacon 1972, Many thanks for your help so far. My new Amplifier has not yet been delivered, although I have sent for, and received 2 x Toslink Digital Audio Cables.
I have been examining the connectors on my Plasma Screen
Terminal Board which are:

1 x Scart socket:
1 x S/video socket;;
1 x Red and White Audio sockets; AND:

2 small metal sockets, which are for BNC connectors, as I have tried a BNC plug on them and they abviously are for them. I would be obliged if you could enlighten me as to what these BNC connectors would be for, if they are each for different purposes, or just the same purpose, how to tell them apart, and mainly:
Which would be the best way of connecting the new Amplifier to the plasma screen.
Very sorry for all the hassle, but I do want this fitted correctly to achieve my objective.
Many thanks again:

Deacon1972 · 08-01-2009, 16:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPC465

Deacon 1972, Many thanks for your help so far. My new Amplifier has not yet been delivered, although I have sent for, and received 2 x Toslink Digital Audio Cables.
I have been examining the connectors on my Plasma Screen
Terminal Board which are:

1 x Scart socket:
1 x S/video socket;;
1 x Red and White Audio sockets; AND:

2 small metal sockets, which are for BNC connectors, as I have tried a BNC plug on them and they abviously are for them. I would be obliged if you could enlighten me as to what these BNC connectors would be for, if they are each for different purposes, or just the same purpose, how to tell them apart, and mainly:
Which would be the best way of connecting the new Amplifier to the plasma screen.
Very sorry for all the hassle, but I do want this fitted correctly to achieve my objective.
Many thanks again:

The amp doesn't need connecting to the TV as such, the TV audio outs (red/white) need connecting to the amp. You will need a pair of phono cables like these.

http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tv...ml?id=CxSXGsYI

The BNC sockets I presume are for video.

XPC465 · 08-01-2009, 17:03

Many, many thanks for all your help with my problem Deacon 1972. I think I can quite comfortably set the Ampliefier up, when it arrives, except for the subwoofer which I will buy in the next few weeks. I do not think I'll have to trouble you again, so many, many thanks again.

XPC465 · 09-01-2009, 12:29

Deacon 1972, the amplifier arrived this morning.
I have all the necessary cables you suggested, to hand, ready to connect the amplifier up. Having just studied the user manual for the amplifier, I am still uncertain of 1 thing which I hope you can help me with. I hope you appreciate that I do not want to guess what to do, as this maybe incorrect, and stop the surround sound working correctly.
The user manual shows ways of connecting the amplifier to the television, and this does NOT include a scart socket, as the amplifier is NOT fitted with a scart socket.
I can connect my Sky+ box to the amplifier by the way described in the user manual, but what is the correct way of connecting the amplifier VIDEO to the plasma screen, remembering that the plasma screen terminal board is fitted with: 1 x scart socket;
1 x red and white audio sockets;
1 x s/video socket;
2 x bnc connectors.
I just want to make sure that the VIDEO from the amplifier, to the plasma screen, is connected as it should be, so apologies for all the trouble.

Deacon1972 · 09-01-2009, 12:53

There's no need to connect the plasma to the receiver via video connection as you are connecting Sky/DVD to the TV.

It's only when you want video switching via the receiver that you connect the display to the receiver.

The connections will be...........

Sky/DVD scart -> TV
Sky optical -> Sony optical
DVD optical/coaxial -> Sony optical/coaxial
TV outs (red/white) -> Sony audio ins

XPC465 · 09-01-2009, 13:26

Thats fantastic Deacon 1972. You are a real hero.
I will begin setting the amplifier up.
Many many thanks for all your help.
Have a very good 2009.

04-01-2009, 16:50	#1
XPC465 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 70	Advice from Technology Experts on Onkyo-22HD Hi there to you all. All your previous posts in my last thread about setting up my surround sound system correctly were much appreciated, and after many months of trying, I now accept that my system is outdated. All I want to do is have good surround sound, for a DVD player, and either Freesat or Freeview, on my television. I have both Freesat, from my sky dish, and Freeview, from a digital roof aerial, running into my livingroom, for me to choose which I view. I have spent most of the day, perusing reviews regarding surround sound, and was quite interested in the ONKYO HTX-22HD, which is very reasonable for having such a good review. As someone who does NOT know the first thing about this subject, I have many queries I would like answered by an expert, or someone who is learned with these things. My first question is obviously: Will this system fulfil my needs to get 5.1 surround from my Panasonic 42" Plasma TV, a DVD player, AND either Freesat or Freeview. QUESTION 2/ Is my present Panasonic speakers; Front Input 170W Max; Surround Input 70W Max; Centre Speaker 270Wmax; compatible with theONKYO HTX-22HD or not. and QUESTION 3: Is there any drawbacks in using this system, remembering I only want good 5.1. surround sound from my DVD player and Television. The complete run down and reviews of this system was found on cnet.uk in the review category. Would a kind expert please answer my queries and give me their opinion and advice, so that I can take replacing my sound system a bit further. Many thanks to all who offer advice.

04-01-2009, 17:19	#2
Deacon1972 Guest Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,103	First off you won't get 5.1 from your TV (Freeview), at best you will only get DPL surround. You will get 5.1 from an external DVD player and Sky+. The Onkyo will allow you to connect your DVD/Sky+ via optical/coaxial for 5.1. You will be able to connect the TV to the Onkyo via the TV's audio outputs for DPL. I don't see any reason why you can't use the centre and surrounds from your old system to make the Onkyo a full 5.1 system, the amplification is not that powerful and the power ratings for the Panasonic speakers will be overrated. The only reservation I would have is they may not tonally match. If you are not comfortable using them I doubt the extra Onkyo speakers will be that much more to complete the system. I would be inclined to go for the extra speakers from Onkyo.

04-01-2009, 18:25	#3
XPC465 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 70	Many thanks for that Deacon 1972. As I said I do not know the first thing about such things, so I would very much appreciate your help. Is it possible to get a system whereby 5.1 good surround sound would be obtainable with both Sky+ and Freeview, or does Freeview not suppport 5.1 surround. I very rarely use Freeview any, but the about 2 or 3 channels differ to Sky+. I was trying to find a system which would give me good 5.1 surround sound on Sky+, and if possible Freeview, and defititely a DVD player, costing around £200- £300. What would your advice be, knowing the ins and outs of this subject. Many thanks for your help.

04-01-2009, 18:50	#4
the hamster Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: AA Aerials, Grantham & Melton Posts: 1,034	Please remember, sky only outputs 5.1 on the major movie channels and sports channels. For the majority of your viewing the channel will only be outputting a stereo signal which the amplifier will decode and give you PRO LOGIC surround. You cannot get 5.1 on all channels all the time, in fact you are likely to get pro logic 99% of the time depending on your subscription.

04-01-2009, 18:57	#5
Deacon1972 Guest Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,103	Quote: Originally Posted by XPC465 Many thanks for that Deacon 1972. As I said I do not know the first thing about such things, so I would very much appreciate your help. Is it possible to get a system whereby 5.1 good surround sound would be obtainable with both Sky+ and Freeview, or does Freeview not suppport 5.1 surround. I very rarely use Freeview any, but the about 2 or 3 channels differ to Sky+. I was trying to find a system which would give me good 5.1 surround sound on Sky+, and if possible Freeview, and defititely a DVD player, costing around £200- £300. What would your advice be, knowing the ins and outs of this subject. Many thanks for your help. Freeview doesn't support 5.1 - the closest you will get is DPL surround. DPL surround is designed to take a stereo source like Freeview and replay it via a multichannel system (5.1/6.1/7.1). It's not as good as a dedicated 5.1 soundtrack but it can sound pretty convincing on movies. The system you mentioned will give you 5.1 from an external DVD player and Sky+ where available and DPL via Freeview. There are other systems out there that fit your bill. The Yamaha AV63 @ £200 - this system comprises of an av receiver and speaker package, it has all the connections you need. http://www.digitaldirect.co.uk/yamah...ackage-63.html

04-01-2009, 19:07	#6
XPC465 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 70	Many thanks for that the hamster. I now only use freesat, as I did not agree to my Sky+ package being increased from £32.00 to £47.00 in the four year I subscribed to it. That was nearly £4 a year. As I am determined to get my surround sound sorted out, I would appreciate any help, advice and recommendations given to me. As I am getting on a bit in years, could you define (if it is not a stupid question) the difference between 5.1 surround sound and pro-logic surround sound. My present set up gives reasonable surround sound from the DVD player, which is part of the home surround sound amp. but the television has NO effect on the rear speakers at all. As I stated earlier I would like a good surround sound from both a DVD player and the television. Any further advice, remembering I would rather keep the cost below £300 if possible, would be appreciated. Also if I could purchase a system whereby I could continue using my Panasonic speakers which are immaculate, in an attempt to get a better system by avoiding paying for extra speakers.

04-01-2009, 19:37	#7
Deacon1972 Guest Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,103	Quote: Originally Posted by XPC465 As I am determined to get my surround sound sorted out, I would appreciate any help, advice and recommendations given to me. As I am getting on a bit in years, could you define (if it is not a stupid question) the difference between 5.1 surround sound and pro-logic surround sound. I have already given a simple explanation on the difference in post#5, if you would like a more detailed explanation this is available on Dolby's site. Dolby Digital DPLII DPLIIx

04-01-2009, 19:40	#8
XPC465 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 70	Many thanks for that Deacon1972, your help has been much appreciated. I DO NOT intend putting you on the spot, but out of the 2 packages I have looked at the ONKYO or the one in your last post, which would the most suitable as regards functions etc. to fulfil my needs for good 5.1 surround sound from DVD player and either SKY+ or FREEVIEW. I finally think I am getting somewhere with this problem. Many many thanks.

04-01-2009, 19:42	#9
tellytart1 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: London Posts: 3,638	Freeview (well, the DVB-T specification) can support DD5.1 sound, its just that the broadcasters choose not to broadcast it, mainly due to bandwidth contrstaints - stereo audio at 192k as well as a DD bitstream at up to 448k - do that with all TV channels in a MUX and either you compress harder and make the picture worse, or you lose a few radio channels or a TV channel to make the space. (ProSieben in Germany broadcast DD over DVB-T, as do several Australian DVB-T broadcasters)

04-01-2009, 19:47	#10
Deacon1972 Guest Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,103	Quote: Originally Posted by XPC465 Many thanks for that Deacon1972, your help has been much appreciated. I DO NOT intend putting you on the spot, but out of the 2 packages I have looked at the ONKYO or the one in your last post, which would the most suitable as regards functions etc. to fulfil my needs for good 5.1 surround sound from DVD player and either SKY+ or FREEVIEW. I finally think I am getting somewhere with this problem. Many many thanks. Not knowing what the Panasonic main speakers are like or whether the sub can be connected to a dedicated receiver, it would be a toss up between either the Yamaha RXV361 @ £120 or the Yamaha RXV363 @ £170 where I would use existing speakers or get the Yamaha AV63 system.

05-01-2009, 13:56	#11
XPC465 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 70	I would just like to take this opportunity, of thanking all the people who have helped me in the building of a new and efficient surround sound system for my TV etc. Having perused all the replies to my various threads on the subject, I have today ordered and paid for the following: SONY STRDG820 av amplifier, which has 4 HDMI inputs. I am hoping to use this in conjunction with my present set of Panasonic speakers, to achieve my 5.1 surround sound system, which I do hope proves successful. The only downside to this, is the fact that I cannot use my present Panasonic subwoofer, to which the speakers actually connect, in the panasonic system. I therefor will be without a subwoofer, until such times as I find out what type and size of subwoofer I require. Any advice on this would be appreciated. Once again, Many many thanks to you all, for all your help.

05-01-2009, 14:20	#12
Deacon1972 Guest Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,103	Quote: Originally Posted by XPC465 I would just like to take this opportunity, of thanking all the people who have helped me in the building of a new and efficient surround sound system for my TV etc. Having perused all the replies to my various threads on the subject, I have today ordered and paid for the following: SONY STRDG820 av amplifier, which has 4 HDMI inputs. I am hoping to use this in conjunction with my present set of Panasonic speakers, to achieve my 5.1 surround sound system, which I do hope proves successful. The only downside to this, is the fact that I cannot use my present Panasonic subwoofer, to which the speakers actually connect, in the panasonic system. I therefor will be without a subwoofer, until such times as I find out what type and size of subwoofer I require. Any advice on this would be appreciated. Once again, Many many thanks to you all, for all your help. You will be looking for an active sub, one that will have it's own amplification built in, it will connect to the Sony via a single phono cable. They do vary in price, the low cost versions are not really upto the job, a sub is designed to output the low frequencies, many do a poor job, to get something that has some punch you really need to choose wisely. A decent sub can make a whole lot of difference to how your system will sound overall. Have a look at a manufacturer called BK, their subs are real value for money. Something like the Gemini would fit the bill - it has 150watts and has a realistic 30Hz for the LF. Comes in at £200, personally I wouldn't go for anything less. The quality of the bass gets better the higher up the range you go. http://www.bkelec.com/HiFi/Sub_Woofers.htm

05-01-2009, 21:44	#13
XPC465 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 70	Many thanks again for that Deacon1972. I won't be buying a subwoofer for a week or two, and until then I suppose it will be o.k. to use system without subwoofer. Before finishing with this thread, I require your help a little bit more, to answer the following queries:- 1. Will the system have instructions on how to connect my Plasma screen, Sky+ box, and DVD player to the sound amplifier; 2. Will I need any cables which will NOT be supplied with the amplifier; 3. Due to the rear speakers having been connected to the subwoofer with the Panasonic system, I think the cable for one of the rear speakers may be a yard or two short. Will making a join and adding an extra piece, reduce the sound quality. The cables were placed under the living room carpet, during last decorating time. The delivery time for the amplifier is 3 - 5 days, and I would like to prepare everything, as regards necessary cables, before it arrives, to delay installing it. Many thanks again.

05-01-2009, 22:12	#14
Deacon1972 Guest Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,103	Quote: Originally Posted by XPC465 Many thanks again for that Deacon1972. I won't be buying a subwoofer for a week or two, and until then I suppose it will be o.k. to use system without subwoofer. Before finishing with this thread, I require your help a little bit more, to answer the following queries:- 1. Will the system have instructions on how to connect my Plasma screen, Sky+ box, and DVD player to the sound amplifier; 2. Will I need any cables which will NOT be supplied with the amplifier; 3. Due to the rear speakers having been connected to the subwoofer with the Panasonic system, I think the cable for one of the rear speakers may be a yard or two short. Will making a join and adding an extra piece, reduce the sound quality. The cables were placed under the living room carpet, during last decorating time. The delivery time for the amplifier is 3 - 5 days, and I would like to prepare everything, as regards necessary cables, before it arrives, to delay installing it. Many thanks again. 1) Yes - it should have detailed diagrams on how to connect external equipment and what cables are required. 2) Yes - you will need 1x optical cable for Sky+. 1x optical/coaxial for the DVD player. 1 pair of phonos or optical cable depending on your TV's audio outputs. 3) To join the cables just use a small terminal block or just tape them up using insulating tape, I doubt you will notice any drop in quality.

08-01-2009, 13:24	#15
XPC465 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 70	Deacon 1972, Many thanks for your help so far. My new Amplifier has not yet been delivered, although I have sent for, and received 2 x Toslink Digital Audio Cables. I have been examining the connectors on my Plasma Screen Terminal Board which are: 1 x Scart socket: 1 x S/video socket;; 1 x Red and White Audio sockets; AND: 2 small metal sockets, which are for BNC connectors, as I have tried a BNC plug on them and they abviously are for them. I would be obliged if you could enlighten me as to what these BNC connectors would be for, if they are each for different purposes, or just the same purpose, how to tell them apart, and mainly: Which would be the best way of connecting the new Amplifier to the plasma screen. Very sorry for all the hassle, but I do want this fitted correctly to achieve my objective. Many thanks again:

08-01-2009, 16:47	#16
Deacon1972 Guest Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,103	Quote: Originally Posted by XPC465 Deacon 1972, Many thanks for your help so far. My new Amplifier has not yet been delivered, although I have sent for, and received 2 x Toslink Digital Audio Cables. I have been examining the connectors on my Plasma Screen Terminal Board which are: 1 x Scart socket: 1 x S/video socket;; 1 x Red and White Audio sockets; AND: 2 small metal sockets, which are for BNC connectors, as I have tried a BNC plug on them and they abviously are for them. I would be obliged if you could enlighten me as to what these BNC connectors would be for, if they are each for different purposes, or just the same purpose, how to tell them apart, and mainly: Which would be the best way of connecting the new Amplifier to the plasma screen. Very sorry for all the hassle, but I do want this fitted correctly to achieve my objective. Many thanks again: The amp doesn't need connecting to the TV as such, the TV audio outs (red/white) need connecting to the amp. You will need a pair of phono cables like these. http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tv...ml?id=CxSXGsYI The BNC sockets I presume are for video.

08-01-2009, 17:03	#17
XPC465 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 70	Many, many thanks for all your help with my problem Deacon 1972. I think I can quite comfortably set the Ampliefier up, when it arrives, except for the subwoofer which I will buy in the next few weeks. I do not think I'll have to trouble you again, so many, many thanks again.

09-01-2009, 12:29	#18
XPC465 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 70	Deacon 1972, the amplifier arrived this morning. I have all the necessary cables you suggested, to hand, ready to connect the amplifier up. Having just studied the user manual for the amplifier, I am still uncertain of 1 thing which I hope you can help me with. I hope you appreciate that I do not want to guess what to do, as this maybe incorrect, and stop the surround sound working correctly. The user manual shows ways of connecting the amplifier to the television, and this does NOT include a scart socket, as the amplifier is NOT fitted with a scart socket. I can connect my Sky+ box to the amplifier by the way described in the user manual, but what is the correct way of connecting the amplifier VIDEO to the plasma screen, remembering that the plasma screen terminal board is fitted with: 1 x scart socket; 1 x red and white audio sockets; 1 x s/video socket; 2 x bnc connectors. I just want to make sure that the VIDEO from the amplifier, to the plasma screen, is connected as it should be, so apologies for all the trouble.

09-01-2009, 12:53	#19
Deacon1972 Guest Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,103	There's no need to connect the plasma to the receiver via video connection as you are connecting Sky/DVD to the TV. It's only when you want video switching via the receiver that you connect the display to the receiver. The connections will be........... Sky/DVD scart -> TV Sky optical -> Sony optical DVD optical/coaxial -> Sony optical/coaxial TV outs (red/white) -> Sony audio ins

09-01-2009, 13:26	#20
XPC465 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 70	Thats fantastic Deacon 1972. You are a real hero. I will begin setting the amplifier up. Many many thanks for all your help. Have a very good 2009.

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