[winenroses]

Originally Posted by jill1812

Jason's never as bad as Poison Revel Horwood, at least Jason is himself, not pretending to be a upper class englishman.

As harsh as Jason is he's generally spot on, both Gemma and Melinda lack personality, Todd did look like he had an accident. I like to see how people react to his comments. I remember Kyran Bracken laughing and agreeing, showed what a good sport he was, unlike the likes of Kay Burley

Whether or not you think someone has 'personality',whatever it means, is very subjective, and to be judged on that instead of how they are progressing on the ice is not really on, making it personal. This is their first time on the show, remember. Is he judging on their VTS? It certainly seems that way.

I find Jason lacking in 'personality' by which I mean that for me he has no redeeming features, at least on this show. If he has any 'persona' as a 'judge' on the show, it is as a spiteful, cruel, humourless, biased one. A true judge is none of these things.

He also looks as if he has a bad smell under his nose.

[Posy]

Jason gives the impression that the whole show is somewhat beneath him!

[occy]

Gemma told the Sun today to vote for Todd and Coleen to hit back at acid tongue Jason.

[jwprg]

Lordy, are people still whining about this. Jason's comments form less than 5 minutes of the whole programme. How people can get that worked up re something so small, when there is so much more to enjoy, is beyond me.

[Posy]

Originally Posted by jwprg

Lordy, are people still whining about this. Jason's comments form less than 5 minutes of the whole programme. How people can get that worked up re something so small, when there is so much more to enjoy, is beyond me.

I understand what you mean, but for me Jason goes against the whole upbeat tone of the rest of the show. Whilst we celebrate the celebrity completing their routine successfully, with grace or otherwise, he seems totally focused on his barbed comments, even towards Jessica!

Even the judges decision needed only a name, not another comment twisting the knife in again!!!

[therightdeal]

He reminds me of a "bad" judge on some music show. He's a right ****.

Someone else did it before you, and were a lot better.

[CaroUK]

On This Morning yesterday they showed us just his comments from the Sunday show - and he didn't have to have a good word to say about ANY of the girls - even Jessica - and he had another dig at Gemma saying something like you weren't very good and that's why you're here and why you were thrown out!

Why he can't find SOMETHING positive to say about their performances I just don't know - I know he's the DOI version of Craig Revel Horrid or Simon Cowell, but he goes just that little bit too far.

The other Mr Nasty's are at least experts in the fields they are judging (albeit Craig really has no qualifications to judge ballroom dancing but he is a trained dancer and choreographer) - Jason is a choreographer with no ice skating credentials, and doesn't seem to realise that most of the celebs are new to skating and it takes them all their time to actually stay upright, never mind finish lines of tell the story..

He should be made to learn to skate himself so he can appreciate the effort involved and just how good the celebs are after such a short time.

[winenroses]

Originally Posted by jwprg

Lordy, are people still whining about this. Jason's comments form less than 5 minutes of the whole programme. How people can get that worked up re something so small, when there is so much more to enjoy, is beyond me.

That's what the thread's about. It's because there is so much to enjoy, and the fact that small-minded Jason is spoiling that spirit and that enjoyment for so many people.

[maggie48]

Jason ruins the show for me. Also I feel that because his comments are so nasty he will undermine the confidence of the skaters. That can lead to accidents for them which can affect or hurt the pros.

If he was an ex-skater I could see why he was there.

He seems to model himself on Joan Rivers. she can be funny, he can't.

[beauty-1]

Jason ruins the show for me somewhat. I wish they would sack the man. His comment about cardboard cut outs was completely unecessary when both girls were already distraught. He adds nothing to the show at all, apart from bitterness.

[Larkenn]

I like Jason. He is not unfair or mean, he is a judge and he judges what he sees. He always gives constructive criticism which is completely different to being out and out rude. And hes always right. I always find myself agreeing with him. Yes sometimes he lacks tact and can be very direct but i prefer this to someone pretending to like something they dont.

[katrinap]

Let's break that down:

Originally Posted by Larkenn

I like Jason. He is not unfair or mean, he is a judge and he judges what he sees.

He is the very definition of unfair and mean. He is paid to be a judge, but what he brings to the role simply devalues the position for the others on the panel. What he says often bears very little relation to what he sees, it's driven by the desire to provide a soundbite rather than an assessment of the performance.

Originally Posted by Larkenn

He always gives constructive criticism which is completely different to being out and out rude.

He rarely gives constructive criticism, choosing instead to deliver personal insults which are, by definition, out and out rude.

Originally Posted by Larkenn

And hes always right. I always find myself agreeing with him.

His comments are subjective and personal, even in the rare moments where they are not deliberately insulting. The fact that you share his opinion does not make either of you right or wrong, it's a value judgement, nothing more.

Originally Posted by Larkenn

Yes sometimes he lacks tact and can be very direct but i prefer this to someone pretending to like something they dont.

As far as I can tell none of the other judges pretend to like something that they don't. Yet they all manage to employ tact and are able to be direct without causing offence. Jason either can't do this, or worse, chooses not to. Either way, he isn't fit to be there. Going back to my first point, his behaviour makes a mockery of the role, and undermines the other judges.

[winenroses]

I think this whole 'nasty judge' thing is getting out of hand, with Jason Gardiner as the end of the line. He sets a very bad example, and a whole generation of young people are growing up with it.

If I met someone for the first time and thought they looked like the back of a bus, would it be right for me to say so, even if in your view I was 'right' and you 'agreed with me'? It is not a good thing to 'lack tact'. Maybe he cannot help it, maybe he has suffered himself in the past from it, but either way, he should not be there.

Tact is skill (adroitness) in dealing with persons or situations. Jason is greatly lacking in this skill. Not looking good for a judge, then.

[number six]

The Celebs are usually a bundle of nerves about having to go out and perform, but most of all they are scared of the comments that Jason will come out with.
I really don't know why Jayne and Chris don't do something to stop it, their opinions must carry some weight with the Producers and I am sure that they don't like standing there listening to him spout his opinions in such a nasty way!

[kaycee]

I don't mind if a judge is a bit caustic in his/her comments from time to time, and as the celebs are being extremely well paid to learn a new skill, I think they need to be prepared to take the rough with the smooth from the judges ................... up to a point.


But Jason goes beyond that point, and seems deliberately to set out to be nasty almost to the point of viciousness.

[nancy1975]

He's a nasty waste of space and says hardly anything useful, he just adds a needlessly negative tone to the thing.

[kaycee]

His comments are also directed at the person - not at the level of their skating skills, which is wrong.

I remember Bruno in Strictly, telling John S "You are a lovely man, but your dancing stinks!!" It might not have been a nice thing to say, but he was commenting on John's dancing skills, not John himself.

Jason doesn't just rubbish and insult a celebs skating, he rubbishes and insults them as people, which, in my book, is not what he is there for.

[footygirl]

Why on earth is Holly asking him to expand on his marks more than say asking Robin

Surely that is just feeding Jason's ego.

Holly ask someone sensible like Robin or Nicky not that idiot

[kaycee]

Originally Posted by footygirl

Why on earth is Holly asking him to expand on his marks more than say asking Robin

Surely that is just feeding Jason's ego.

Holly ask someone sensible like Robin or Nicky not that idiot

The easy way to deflate Jason's ego would be not to ask him for any comments at all..... But it seems Holly always asks the judge who gave the highest mark and the lowest mark - which, let's face it, is nearly always Jason.

Probably she is told to do this; and possibly some misguided producer thinks the viewers like to see the celebs rubbished. Well, news for that producer - Jason has now become BORING!

[GH Online]

Originally Posted by number six

The Celebs are usually a bundle of nerves about having to go out and perform, but most of all they are scared of the comments that Jason will come out with.

Indeed, ice dancing for someone with little or no experience is a treacherous minefield and through Michael Underwood's predicament we have seen only too well the sort of things that can go wrong. Dancing is one thing, but dancing with two lethal weapons on one's feet is another.

I really don't know why Jayne and Chris don't do something to stop it, their opinions must carry some weight with the Producers and I am sure that they don't like standing there listening to him spout his opinions in such a nasty way!

Would Jason have dared tell Jayne "she looked like an OAP being tossed around" like he did Aggie McKenzie, who is only a couple of years older? I think not.

[winenroses]

Originally Posted by GH Online

Indeed, ice dancing for someone with little or no experience is a treacherous minefield and through Michael Underwood's predicament we have seen only too well the sort of things that can go wrong. Dancing is one thing, but dancing with two lethal weapons on one's feet is another.


Would Jason have dared tell Jayne "she looked like an OAP being tossed around" like he did Aggie McKenzie, who is only a couple of years older? I think not.

He more or less told Aggie, nastily of course, that she looked like mutton dressed as lamb in the outfit she had on, but as she is not in charge of the wardrobe department, what is she supposed to do about that? All she could say was that she didn't choose it, poor thing.It's a pity it wasn't Kim - she wouldn't have put up with his 'constructive' remarks and 'good advice'!

[Posy]

He should pay some attention to Nicky Slater on Eurosports Euro Skating from Helsinki. Informative and constructive critisism from someone who knows what they are talking about!

[Posy]

Anyone remember if any of the contestants has stood their ground against JJ. This series so far they have literally quaked and cowered as he has twisted in the knife!

At least the likes of Simon Cowell and Craig off SCD have a bit of charisma about them.

Jason is just rude for the sake of it - and moreover, he tries too hard to be that way. Too contrived for me.

[sweetcorn]

Flicking through channels and came across the re-run of the dance-off programme (I don't watch this on the night) and thought Jason's comment 'cardboard cut-out one or two ...' or something along those lines were totally out of order. What does he expect in the first week for the girls, it was just pathetic - like all this type of programme format, the judges need reminding it's entertainment - not an audition for some million dollar broadway production.

Jason has lost all credibility for me now so I will mute the TV when he speaks as nothing he has it say is worth consideration or even listening to - I take notice of the skaters on the panel.