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Old 12-01-2009, 16:35
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Think about it? I think you're thinking far too much. I highly doubt any more thought is put into it than "this is entertaining, let's put it in the show", no hidden, deeper meanings. And if there was, it would lie with Jason, not tv execs I'm sure.
Some people would find public execution entertaining. Does that mean it should be shown on TV?
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Old 12-01-2009, 16:38
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Oh, I'm not shocked and I wouldn't want everything to be pink and fluffy either. I just prefer judges to do a bit of judging and try to improve things for their victims, rather than spouting bile to keep themselves in the spotlight. As you'd have worked out, had you bothered to read before chipping in.

Assuming that a call for a little less self-indulgence and a little more constructive help is a desire for everything to be 'nice' is equally pathetic on your part.
I think the difference is, in a show like this and Strictly - and any of the other of the myriad of Celebrities Learning A New Skill Show And Being Judged - is that the celebs involved are doing it for the exposure - it's kinda like a Celeb Job Search.

We know that Todd really hasn't had a life long burning desire to learn to ice dance in the same way that Rachel Stevens wasn't having sleepless nights over the lack in her life of a decent Tango.

The celebs are doing it as much for themselves and their profile as the judges are. If the outcome is another part on prime time tele, then I guess they would take a few scathing comments on account. The show gets publicity. People watch and, hopefully for ITV, people vote. Job done.

The fact that people can remember harsh judges and comments going back decades really shows that the show produced the bottom line - people watched and remembered.
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Old 12-01-2009, 16:41
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Some people would find public execution entertaining. Does that mean it should be shown on TV?
No, but then if we want to be picky there's a world of difference between that and a slightly offensive remark being thrown around. And that's nothing to do with what I said anyway, I just mean people think it's entertaining - and let's face it, it probably brings in some extra viewers - not a way of getting back at bullies by bullying others (although that could be the case with Jason himself, I neither know nor care, not the tv execs who want ratings).
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Old 12-01-2009, 16:45
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Oh, I'm not shocked and I wouldn't want everything to be pink and fluffy either. I just prefer judges to do a bit of judging and try to improve things for their victims, rather than spouting bile to keep themselves in the spotlight. As you'd have worked out, had you bothered to read before chipping in.

Assuming that a call for a little less self-indulgence and a little more constructive help is a desire for everything to be 'nice' is equally pathetic on your part.
Gosh - never has the expression "do as I as say, not as I do" been so apposite.

Personally, I think that Jason did give helpful advise, he just cribbed it in descriptive language - something that some people seem to struggle to understand.
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Old 12-01-2009, 16:49
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The celebs are doing it as much for themselves and their profile as the judges are. If the outcome is another part on prime time tele, then I guess they would take a few scathing comments on account. The show gets publicity. People watch and, hopefully for ITV, people vote. Job done.

The fact that people can remember harsh judges and comments going back decades really shows that the show produced the bottom line - people watched and remembered.
Excellent points! Celebs need TV for exposure. No one holds a gun to their heads. Do you seriously think Carty asked his agent if anyone would be mean to him before he reached for the pen to sign?

No. 'Course not!
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Old 12-01-2009, 16:49
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Some people would find public execution entertaining. Does that mean it should be shown on TV?
Hyprbole does not make something correct.

I wouldn't have thought it was necessary to say it but: DOI does not lead to a celeb being killed, it is a celeb being voted off an ice dancing competition with other celebs!
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Old 12-01-2009, 16:51
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Some people would find public execution entertaining. Does that mean it should be shown on TV?
I can only assume you are not serious?
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Old 12-01-2009, 16:52
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I just think you can give people constructive critisism (like he sort of did with Michael). You don't have to be plain mean to someone.

Awful man. I hate that picking on people mentality.
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Old 12-01-2009, 16:56
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I just think you can give people constructive critisism (like he sort of did with Michael). You don't have to be plain mean to someone.

Awful man. I hate that picking on people mentality.
Might I suggest you stop watching reality shows that are there purely to entertain and amuse, and have a judging panel?

They are not being 'picked on'. They are being judged because they signed a contract and signed up for it - and to be on TV!

It's part of 'entertainment' for the Great British Public, not a classroom where the bad kids give the good kids a hard time.
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Old 12-01-2009, 16:57
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Without Jason's pantomime comments the 'Ice Panel' would be pretty bland.

Todd does need 'to make friends with the ice' as Nicky would say and he was 'very brave to come out and try to entertain' as Karen might say, but he did look as though he'd cr***ed himself, and who knows, poor soul was so nervous, maybe he had!
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Old 12-01-2009, 17:04
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Without Jason's pantomime comments the 'Ice Panel' would be pretty bland.
Hear Hear. And people would switch off in droves so then no more DOI. Afraid most viewers want to be entertained, they are not skating afficienadoes who just want to watch the skating and have nice judges comments. Fall in viewers, then no more DOI.

This is reality in the real world.

But I am sure ITV bosses are rubbing their hands with glee at complaints such as are appearing here. More complaints, more publicity, more money for them!

That is Life.
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Old 12-01-2009, 17:06
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Might I suggest you stop watching reality shows that are there purely to entertain and amuse, and have a judging panel?

They are not being 'picked on'. They are being judged because they signed a contract and signed up for it - and to be on TV!

It's part of 'entertainment' for the Great British Public, not a classroom where the bad kids give the good kids a hard time.
Has anyone suggested to you that perhaps people are entitled to not like the way Jason judges the contestants with lesser talents? This is a public forum after all which encourages discussions on entertainment programmes. There is a line between being funny, Nicky compared him to Eddie the Eagle and that was funny, and being just downright petty as Jason usually is. I fail to see the problem in people commentating on something they disapprove of.
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Old 12-01-2009, 17:08
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Jason is a self important little pr*ck, after a few seasons does anyone really take him seriously apart from himself. The funniest and most entertaining part of the show was when Philip cuffed him across the head for pulling faces, Jason didn't look too pleased but it did give me a giggle.
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Old 12-01-2009, 17:13
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Might I suggest you stop watching reality shows that are there purely to entertain and amuse, and have a judging panel?

They are not being 'picked on'. They are being judged because they signed a contract and signed up for it - and to be on TV!

It's part of 'entertainment' for the Great British Public, not a classroom where the bad kids give the good kids a hard time.
This is the only one I watch and I only watch it to see the progression of people and the professionals. I don't like any of these programmes having judges on. What is the point of having 1 bitch on them all (Jason, and whatever his name is on SCD).

They can give critisism, but it should be constructive and not a personal attack.
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Old 12-01-2009, 17:25
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LOL - every year it is the same, you would think people had never seen DOI before or that Jason was a new judge.

YAWN!
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Old 12-01-2009, 17:33
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LOL - every year it is the same, you would think people had never seen DOI before or that Jason was a new judge.

YAWN!
True.
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