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Jason Gardnier Got A Telling Off
occy
13-01-2009
Apparently as it cut to the break a Runner collected Jason to go up to see the producers and lawyers were there too and gave him a roasting regarding the words he said too Todd Carty. He was told to not use " Crap "
SCDancing34
13-01-2009
I was suprised he was allowed to say that too, although there was no apology later on in the show from Phil/Holly which there sometimes is when unexpected comments are made.
Drifter
13-01-2009
Hasn't he had a "telling off" every single year? And let's face it, it's only for using "crap" (though god knows why) on early-ish television, nothing to do with Todd I suspect. Not that I think it should be, either.
sofakat
13-01-2009
Originally Posted by occy:
“Apparently as it cut to the break a Runner collected Jason to go up to see the producers and lawyers were there too and gave him a roasting regarding the words he said too Todd Carty. He was told to not use " Crap "”

Yeah, right. Lawyers always hang around the studio, sipping tea with the floor managers and production crew during a TV recording.

Highly unlikely.
lpayne7
13-01-2009
It's pathetic. Since when has crap been a swear word.

I'm a clean mouthed person and even I say crap. It's a bloody pisstake, that's what it f***ing well is. Piece of s**t.
hopeandfaith06
13-01-2009
They say crap on soaps, as well as bitch and i'm sure they have said other words, so why not on DOI?? I doubt many people got offended (well apart from Todd maybe )
SCDancing34
13-01-2009
Originally Posted by hopeandfaith06:
“They say crap on soaps, as well as bitch and i'm sure they have said other words, so why not on DOI?? I doubt many people got offended (well apart from Todd maybe )”

yeah

Doesn't Len get away with saying "bloody" a lot on SCD or is that only DWTS. Bruno said "shit" once aswell didn't he?
kaycee
13-01-2009
There are rules about what can be said before the so-called watershed - whatever time that is nowadays, and "crap" is a swear word. Whether it is an "allowed" word or not, it wasn't a very nice thing to say to Todd, even if it was true!!!
surfie
13-01-2009
Originally Posted by kaycee:
“There are rules about what can be said before the so-called watershed - whatever time that is nowadays, and "crap" is a swear word. Whether it is an "allowed" word or not, it wasn't a very nice thing to say to Todd, even if it was true!!!”

It use to be said on Grange Hill on occasion and that was even earlier when children were watching.
magu21189
13-01-2009
i cant believe that crap and bloody are seen as swear words like really. The british take things far too seriously im not saying the viewers do (well some of them do)...but there was a programme i was watching one day when they apologised for a foul word someone used and i had to rewind it back and i couldn believe they were apologising for saying bloody....
why on earth are they seen as bad words????
mariets
14-01-2009
Caprice said c*nt on This Morning with Richard & Judy when she was starring in the Vagina Monologues...
peely
14-01-2009
Originally Posted by lpayne7:
“It's pathetic. Since when has crap been a swear word.

I'm a clean mouthed person and even I say crap. It's a bloody pisstake, that's what it f***ing well is. Piece of s**t. ”

I found it a pretty offensive thing to say to someone in public. I'm sure he could have rephrased it, for example, saying he (Todd) looked like he'd had a little accident, would have been more subtle, more amusing, and wouldn't have me thinking that Jason is not only rude, but not intelligent enough to come up with a better turn of phrase! Does he want his opinion to be respected as a judge? Apparently not.
peely
14-01-2009
Originally Posted by peely:
“I found it a pretty offensive thing to say to someone in public. I'm sure he could have rephrased it, for example, saying he (Todd) looked like he'd had a little accident, would have been more subtle, more amusing, and wouldn't have me thinking that Jason is not only rude, but not intelligent enough to come up with a better turn of phrase! Does he want his opinion to be respected as a judge? Apparently not.”

Oh, I don't think that cr*p is a swear word. Bll**dy is fine, even sh*t is fine, but I wouldn't be happy if someone said they looked like they'd sh*t themselves. I think that is offensive too, and unnecessary. What we need is someone who has Stephen Fry's way with words coupled with Jason Gardiner's dance experience, though I doubt that person exists unfortunately.
Lorelei Lee
14-01-2009
The sad thing is that it probably was the choice of words that got him into trouble, rather than his total lack of ability to criticise someone in any remotely constructive way.

A pile of crap, if I do say so myself.
soapgirlhere
15-01-2009
Originally Posted by peely:
“I found it a pretty offensive thing to say to someone in public. I'm sure he could have rephrased it, for example, saying he (Todd) looked like he'd had a little accident, would have been more subtle, more amusing, and wouldn't have me thinking that Jason is not only rude, but not intelligent enough to come up with a better turn of phrase! Does he want his opinion to be respected as a judge? Apparently not.”


totally agree
crap is pretty subtle compared to some other swear words, but there were so many nicer ways of saying it. he could have said 'wet yoursef', or 'peed yourself', or 'had a little accident' but no. he probably deliberately chose those words to get a reaction.
Kez100
16-01-2009
I don't think he did say crap. He said crapped his pants which is different.
GH Online
17-01-2009
ITV bleeped Jason saying "crapped" on today's repeat, but did not remove it from the subtitles.

As uncalled for as Gardiner's comment was, to bleep that particular word went too far.
BuddyBontheNet
17-01-2009
Originally Posted by magu21189:
“i cant believe that crap and bloody are seen as swear words like really. The british take things far too seriously im not saying the viewers do (well some of them do)...but there was a programme i was watching one day when they apologised for a foul word someone used and i had to rewind it back and i couldn believe they were apologising for saying bloody....
why on earth are they seen as bad words????”

Think about it this way - would you think it was good or bad is a two year old child used crap or bloody in a sentence?

There are degrees of swearing and whether you use a word or not, it could still be considered a swear word.

Jason should be able to make a comment without resorting swearing.
occy
17-01-2009
They have removed Crap from the trailer and replaced it. I wonder who said the different word?
surfie
17-01-2009
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“Think about it this way - would you think it was good or bad is a two year old child used crap or bloody in a sentence?

There are degrees of swearing and whether you use a word or not, it could still be considered a swear word.

Jason should be able to make a comment without resorting swearing.”


Hollyoaks used the word Crap this week and has even used the term "the dogs bollocks" . Even Grange Hill which is was one even earlier used words like Crap and no one raises an eyebrow because the self righteous hardly watch these programmes.

Jason uses it on prime time TV and there is this big fuss about it. It's not as if it is anything major and a more serious swear word. If it wasn't for that those pretencious prats Ross and Brand I doubt there would have been this fuss in the first place.
BuddyBontheNet
17-01-2009
Originally Posted by surfie:
“Hollyoaks used the word Crap this week and has even used the term "the dogs bollocks" . Even Grange Hill which is was one even earlier used words like Crap and no one raises an eyebrow because the self righteous hardly watch these programmes.

Jason uses it on prime time TV and there is this big fuss about it. It's not as if it is anything major and a more serious swear word. If it wasn't for that those pretencious prats Ross and Brand I doubt there would have been this fuss in the first place.”

That's just tosh. It is nothing to do with self righteousness or Ross or Brand. It is all about the target audience for each show and what is permitted for that audience.

Hollyoaks is a 'drama soap' aimed at teenagers, so they have to try and use the language used in real life as far as they are allowed. DOI is aimed at family audience so children are watching. I'd like some proof 'crap' was used in Grange Hill - it was always pushing the envelope but I doubt it went that far, but I wait to be proved wrong.

You might have quoted my post, but you didn't answer my question about the two year old.
janymac
17-01-2009
I think there is some confxion here - he was not swearing, he did not say you were ****, he said he danced as though he had ****ed himself, i.e. used a vulgar way of describing it, but did not swear as such.
GH Online
17-01-2009
Originally Posted by magu21189:
“i cant believe that crap and bloody are seen as swear words like really. The british take things far too seriously im not saying the viewers do (well some of them do)...but there was a programme i was watching one day when they apologised for a foul word someone used and i had to rewind it back and i couldn believe they were apologising for saying bloody....
why on earth are they seen as bad words????”

This may come as a surprise given how vocal I've been about the Ross/Brand affair, but I actually agree we get far too heat up about swearing.

I resent being patronised by Ofcom who force TV continuity announcers to warn of "strong language"; if I'm a regular viewer of whatever series this applies to I should know what to expect. Also, the term "strong language" is an ambiguous one and does not automatically mean swearing.

In all walks of life, everyone swears - and when we do, it's because things aren't going right or to let off steam. When we are becoming liberal about everything else it seems odd that swearing is seen as so much of a problem.
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