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Old 14-11-2003, 12:31
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Anyone fancy buying Alex's famous Blue VW Beetle Betty?

Well she's going up for sale on Monday, as part of an hour long special edition of ITV's Everyhting Must GO

Further Details about the Sale Of Betty

So who would like to buy me an early Christmas Present?
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Old 14-11-2003, 13:53
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Originally posted by rosemary
Anyone fancy buying Alex's famous Blue VW Beetle Betty?

Well she's going up for sale on Monday, as part of an hour long special edition of ITV's Everyhting Must GO

Further Details about the Sale Of Betty

So who would like to buy me an early Christmas Present?
This looks a little odd-buying a car you have never seen before?
What are the tyres like and the headlights and the general overall colour?????.
Still if its for charity they might be able to get two or more rich mugs to bid for something like that -they would not much care what the car was-probably give it away to a worthy cause or friend-somewhere-a home where it would be looked after.
Of course the car itself would have to be happy about it -sort of-you can tell if a car is happy-starting/tracking/doughnuttingetc
I certainly would not have enough to buy it for sure.
Nice boot though from the pictures-Alex that is.
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Old 14-11-2003, 16:12
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Ooh if I just had a spare £10k then Betty would be all mine, lol! Whoever gets her is a lucky lucky git!
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Old 14-11-2003, 16:50
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Ooh if I just had a spare £10k then Betty would be all mine, lol! Whoever gets her is a lucky lucky git!
No one has ever called her lucky before?
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Old 14-11-2003, 20:01
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Does the car come with or without Alex?
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Old 14-11-2003, 20:35
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I take it that Betty was the car Alex was driving in his intro. video?

During which, he managed to alienate me in two minutes flat speaking of how the 9/11 tragedy scuppered his career as a model - talk about, erm, failing to see the bigger picture!
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Old 14-11-2003, 20:37
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Originally posted by ben4321
I take it that Betty was the car Alex was driving in his intro. video?

During which, he managed to alienate me in two minutes flat speaking of how the 9/11 tragedy scuppered his career as a model - talk about, erm, failing to see the bigger picture!
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Old 14-11-2003, 20:47
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Originally posted by Eejay
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I thought you declared that you would not respond to my posts in future - would you please stick to it. :sleep:
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Old 14-11-2003, 21:34
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Originally posted by Eejay
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Very well said Eejay.

There comes a time when the same old cobblers repeated ad infinitum gets extremely tiresome. :sleep:
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Old 14-11-2003, 21:36
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Originally posted by darling
Very well said Eejay.

There comes a time when the same old cobblers repeated ad infinitum gets extremely tiresome. :sleep:
And entirely off topic remarks.
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Old 14-11-2003, 22:00
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Originally posted by darling
Very well said Eejay.

There comes a time when the same old cobblers repeated ad infinitum gets extremely tiresome. :sleep:
What's being repeated ad infinitum?

Since he made the remark whilst driving his would-be iconic vehicle, it is on topic.

It seems that some of "Alex's angels" can't take any criticism of their hero in any way, shape or form, even an only very mildly critical observation.

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Old 15-11-2003, 21:05
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Originally posted by Eejay
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Good reply Eejay, nicely put !

ben4321 you missed a chance to bring in the name 'Tickle' he must have had a more famous car/bike/skateboard
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Old 15-11-2003, 21:26
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Originally posted by hirta
Good reply Eejay, nicely put !

ben4321 you missed a chance to bring in the name 'Tickle' he must have had a more famous car/bike/skateboard
Perhaps so, but I don't remember Jon - or anyone else - ever making a remark that was so irrefutably crass and selfish.
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Old 15-11-2003, 21:44
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Thats odd Ben...I have watched Alex's audition video many times and whilst I have seen Alex explain how 9/11 had affected the modelling industry, I seem to have missed the bit where he says he didn't care about any of the people killed

..Unless of course he didnt infact say that and some people are just making much more out of a simple comment that was ever intended?

...but none of this answers my question....who is going to buy me the car?
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Old 15-11-2003, 21:51
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Originally posted by rosemary
Thats odd Ben...I have watched Alex's audition video many times and whilst I have seen Alex explain how 9/11 had affected the modelling industry, I seem to have missed the bit where he says he didn't care about any of the people killed
He remarked on how the tragedy took the emphasis away from normal run-of-the-mill news events e.g. the fashion show that was his "big break".

You can split hairs all you like, but speaking about the 9/11 disaster in such frivolous terms - who gives a toss about the modelling industry compared to one of the most genuinely appalling human tragedies of recent years - is really in extremely poor taste.

Nothing Alex ever said or did afterwards really made up for that in my eyes, but then BB3 was full of dreadful people anyway. The only one I came close to liking was Adele, mainly because she seemed to be the only one in possession of a brain.
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Old 15-11-2003, 21:59
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And if Alex made those commments it was outside the house! Ben, I thought one of your rules was to judge contestants on their behaviour inside the house! :yawn:
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Old 15-11-2003, 22:15
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Originally posted by ben4321
He remarked on how the tragedy took the emphasis away from normal run-of-the-mill news events e.g. the fashion show that was his "big break".

You can split hairs all you like, but speaking about the 9/11 disaster in such frivolous terms - who gives a toss about the modelling industry compared to one of the most genuinely appalling human tragedies of recent years - is really in extremely poor taste.

Nothing Alex ever said or did afterwards really made up for that in my eyes.
So you were predudiced from the start?

Of course on a wider level the two things dont compare, but Alex was making a video about himself, as he had ben asked to do, ..and spoke of how his job had been affected on a personnal level....it was a perfectly accurate statement..and one made by many people whose careers, holidays ect had been ruined..there was nothing tasteless about it...and in no way indicated a lack of compasion for the people who lost their lives in the tragedy.
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Old 15-11-2003, 22:37
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The way I saw it at the time, Alex was simply giving the truth about why work had been slow in the last few months - ie. why he was ready for a different experience, try something new and why he wanted to go in to the house, which was what the video was all about.
His big break after many years was the Armani campaign which was understandably brushed under the carpet with 9/11 soon after.

I'm sure Alex was not commenting on the tragedy itself, if any of them he is not only politically aware but also sensitive and caring towards others.
Of course most of us (who are not international terrorists or have sympathies in that way) were tremendously upset by 9/11, that goes without saying, including Alex I am sure.
In the short video he was giving his reasons for wanting to go in to the house, no more no less.



ps. As an addition to this, I remember a conversation in the poor bedroom about the subject.
Alex at the time did not know about any controversy towards his video, it was just a general conversation in bed.
Alex spoke about his visiting the WTC when he was in New York and how he found it very hard to reconcile this with what had happened since; he was the only one that spoke with any knowledge or feeling of the subject.

At the time I maybe would have thought the same but having got to know him on BB3 and heard what he had to say since, I realised that the video mention was just an aside on how it had affected him personally and why he wanted to enter the house, not his opinion on the tragedy itself which he spoke about later.

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Old 15-11-2003, 22:57
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And if Alex made those commments it was outside the house! Ben, I thought one of your rules was to judge contestants on their behaviour inside the house! :yawn:
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The video was made for the consumption of BB viewers.
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Old 15-11-2003, 22:58
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Originally posted by rosemary
So you were predudiced from the start?

Of course on a wider level the two things dont compare, but Alex was making a video about himself, as he had ben asked to do, ..and spoke of how his job had been affected on a personnal level....it was a perfectly accurate statement..and one made by many people whose careers, holidays ect had been ruined..there was nothing tasteless about it...and in no way indicated a lack of compasion for the people who lost their lives in the tragedy.
It still demonstrated a certain unlikeably flippant "me, me, me" demeanour on his part.

Compared to what happened on 11th September 2001, I'm amazed that some people were stupid enough to complain about ruined jobs/holidays... what rubbish. At least they're still alive. How short-sighted can you get?

I've never actually opined that Alex lacked compassion - I merely found his comments lacking in perspective.
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Old 15-11-2003, 23:10
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Originally posted by ben4321
It still demonstrated a certain unlikeably flippant "me, me, me" demeanour on his part.

Compared to what happened on 11th September 2001, I'm amazed that some people were stupid enough to complain about ruined jobs/holidays... what rubbish. At least they're still alive. How short-sighted can you get?
No - disagree! See my comments above.

The whole idea of that very short video was purely to get them in to the house, a personal thing as to why they wanted to do it. It was not a political thing of their views of world events in the last year.

When the subject was actually discussed as I said, Alex was the only one with any knowledge or compassion on the subject, the others just listened - more concerned with the latest dance track, how to do the one-legged dance and act up for the cameras, where East Angular was - etc......

Again, see my post above for my full opinion.
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Old 15-11-2003, 23:18
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No - disagree! See my comments above.

The whole idea of that very short video was purely to get them in to the house, a personal thing as to why they wanted to do it. It was not a political thing of their views of world events in the last year.

When the subject was actually discussed as I said, Alex was the only one with any knowledge or compassion on the subject, the others just listened - more concerned with the latest dance track, how to do the one-legged dance and act up for the cameras, where East Angular was - etc......

Again, see my post above for my full opinion.
If the intro. video was meant to be apolitical, then Alex shouldn't have been crass enough to mention 9/11 in the first place. There really wasn't any need to.

Certainly, Alex might have been knowledgeable later, but it's the video I was commenting on. And yes, I do agree that Alex was ultimately one of the better people in a bunch of utterly atrocious housemates.

He was quirkily distinctive and I suppose that's why he's popular - but I'm afraid I have no genuine enthusiasm for Mr. Sibley whatsoever. I like to be 100% behind the housemates I like - Anna, Darren, Dean, Helen, Jon - and Alex will never merit that degree of commitment from me. The 9/11 comment was one of a couple of moments that prevented me from liking him that much.
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Old 15-11-2003, 23:26
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I appreciate that Ben.
I do agree that the 9/11 thing could have been seen as controversial but from what I have seen of him and heard from him since, I am sure it was an aside, maybe unthoughtful in its context but was not intended in that way.
Confirmed by his comments on it in the poor bedroom, unknowingly.

Take him as a whole and do not judge him on the video, the sole purpose of which was to get him in to the house and in this he was honest personally as usual.
Let's face it, most of the other's probably don't know what 9/11 even was....or care.....
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Old 15-11-2003, 23:31
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Originally posted by anon2

Let's face it, most of the other's probably don't know what 9/11 even was....or care.....
Yes indeed. Alex was never a favourite but I do appreciate that there were far worse than him in the BB3 house - Jonny, Kate, PJ, Spencer, Jade, Alison, Tim, Sandy....

I found them *all* pretty unlikeable, but there were varying levels of unlikeability. Adele and Alex were at the top and Jonny was right down at the bottom.
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Old 16-11-2003, 00:06
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Originally posted by ben4321
........Jonny was right down at the bottom.

For me too - Jonny is probably the bottom of all four series' imo!
Cameron comes a close second, then the total wannabe's (Justine etc), but for dislikeable underhand characters I think Jonny still takes the biscuit.
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