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You don't get it all do you!
They can mark how the hell they like! Why are you not having a pop at Jason who marks EVERYONE low? your comments are ridiculous. Full of holes and flaws. Read back what you have written in this thread. You are making yourself look either like Ruthie's lover/mother/best mate/biggest fan or someone who is so out of step with what is considered acceptable that they need to read up on etiquette a bit. |
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Perhaps she was trying to redress the balance, I thought Zoe was better than Colleen, her basic skating was better and she danced on her own a lot more which is much harder.
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They can't mark how the hell they like - they have to be consistant throughout all the couples. Jason marks can be low but they are consistant throughout all the couples and therefore marks fairly (in his opinion)
Nicky dosn't have any continuity between his marking - its all over the show and doesn't seem to mark fairly between all the couples. A 0.5 difference between what Ray did and what Coleen did is ridiculous... However I get the feeling he would've given Ray higher; but couldn't because of Robin |
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It seems to me that this thread isn't about the scores that any of the skaters were given.
The thread is about the appropriateness of Ruthie's attack on Nicky, for attack is what it came over as. Surely they should all give the mark they feel is suitable for THEIR opinion of the performance. Much as the threads on here, none of them would necessarily favour the same skater but you can't browbead another judge for not agreeing with your take on the scoring. Was it just me though, because I though it was when she was banging on about the score he gave Coleen not leaving a margin for a better act that he said he had been given a 'directive' by Robin, rather than when Ray was scored? |
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Perhaps she was trying to redress the balance, I thought Zoe was better than Colleen, her basic skating was better and she danced on her own a lot more which is much harder.
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People seem to want to dislike Ruthie as she doesn't come from an ice skating background. Her point was totally valid, she was not saying that the person who skates first is marked down in case those after are better - but if Nicky had've given a 5.5 or 6.0 to Ray then it leaves no room for improvement.
I do agree that Ruthie's handling of the situation wasn't great but I don't see how else she could've approached the situation whilst on air. |
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What is more worrying about Ruthie is that she clearly has picked Zoe as her little favourite- she overlooked a mistake tonight- gave her a 4.0. Karen, Nicky and Robin correctly marked Zoe down.
And what is more annoying is that she marked Elleray low for a clean performance. Maybe Robin should have a word with her and give a course on the art of marking |
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Course they can mark how they like - they can and do. But where does it say in the rule book that they can undermine a fellow judge TWICE in public and give a post mortem about a performance TWO dances on? And to say in all of this in public?
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They can't mark how the hell they like - they have to be consistant throughout all the couples. Jason marks can be low but they are consistant throughout all the couples and therefore marks fairly (in his opinion)
Nicky dosn't have any continuity between his marking - its all over the show and doesn't seem to mark fairly between all the couples. A 0.5 difference between what Ray did and what Coleen did is ridiculous... However I get the feeling he would've given Ray higher; but couldn't because of Robin |
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Perhaps she was trying to redress the balance, I thought Zoe was better than Colleen, her basic skating was better and she danced on her own a lot more which is much harder.
Ruthie had a point, but the way she raised it was wrong. If she has an issue she should take it up with Nicky (and Robin as the head of the judges) after the show. I doubt if Ray was upset about getting only 0.5 marks more than Colleen (he looked delighted with his scores as far as I could see.) |
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People seem to want to dislike Ruthie as she doesn't come from an ice skating background. Her point was totally valid, she was not saying that the person who skates first is marked down in case those after are better - but if Nicky had've given a 5.5 or 6.0 to Ray then it leaves no room for improvement.
I do agree that Ruthie's handling of the situation wasn't great but I don't see how else she could've approached the situation whilst on air. Did Nicky take the option of finger pointing about her Zoe mark? Whatever the marks, agree/ disagree, her behaviour was not professional at all. |
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They can and they DO!
The fact that Nicky said there was only a 0.5 difference between his scoring of Ray and Coleen was because of a directive from Robin shows they can't mark how the hell they like |
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The problem is the marks can only be given .5 increments, which doesn't give a lot of room to slot skaters in. If they give a skater a 3.5, and then another a 4, there is no where to go if another skaters comes along and is in between. given 2 is regarding really low, and 5 seems to be the highest they are prepared to go in week 2, there really aren't that many different marks they can give out.
I'd like them to be able to give out 4.1, 4.2 etc not just 1/2 points. |
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People seem to want to dislike Ruthie as she doesn't come from an ice skating background. Her point was totally valid, she was not saying that the person who skates first is marked down in case those after are better - but if Nicky had've given a 5.5 or 6.0 to Ray then it leaves no room for improvement.
I do agree that Ruthie's handling of the situation wasn't great but I don't see how else she could've approached the situation whilst on air. |
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Whether Nicky overmarked is not the point, but the fact that she had a go at him over it when it's not her place to, she should worry about her own marks and Nicky can mark how he likes. She's getting way too big for her boots.
She had dodgy marking of her own, giving Jeremy a 2.0 while the three skating judges all gave 4.0s. |
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At least Ruthie's scores leave room for people to improve. Nicky's didn't make sense when comparing his scores for different skaters. Ruthie didn't go about expressing this in the right way though. But I still like her... *ducks flying bricks*
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The problem is the marks can only be given .5 increments, which doesn't give a lot of room to slot skaters in. If they give a skater a 3.5, and then another a 4, there is no where to go if another skaters comes along and is in between. given 2 is regarding really low, and 5 seems to be the highest they are prepared to go in week 2, there really aren't that many different marks they can give out.
I'd like them to be able to give out 4.1, 4.2 etc not just 1/2 points. |
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So what you are saying then is that its ok for Ruthie to overmark but not Nicky or anyone else?
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At least Ruthie's scores leave room for people to improve. Nicky's didn't make sense when comparing his scores for different skaters. Ruthie didn't go about expressing this in the right way though. But I still like her... *ducks flying bricks*
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They can mark how they like within reason - however if they do mark how the hell they like eg giving Todd a 6.0 for what he just did then they would lose face and the small amount of credibility that they have.
The fact that Nicky said there was only a 0.5 difference between his scoring of Ray and Coleen was because of a directive from Robin shows they can't mark how the hell they like Other than that, they do infact mark however they like, if not, we wouldn't be seeing so much difference in the marks given by different judges for the same dance. I mean, 4.5, 4.0, 2.5, 2.5, 3.5 for the same dance! That is marking however they like! |
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Not at all, some of the judges mark irratically apart from maybe Karen and Robin but the Nicky mark for Colleen stood out for me. I thought it was outrageous, just my opinion.
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But she has no credibility now- she undermarks those who don't make a mistake and overmarks those who do(Zoe)
They can't keep her on for that- or at least Robin should have a word with her |
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I would hate to be judged down for something I had just done, because I might be able to do something better at a later date. I would much rather be judged for what I had just done. Ray Quinn, in my opinion today deserved 6's all the way, if I was on the panel, directive or not, I would have given him a six. Then Ruthie could have had a go at me and I would have said "F*ck off Ruthie you have had your say - so zip it - Capeesh..."
![]() ![]() Now if Nicky had given him a six, that would have been just and deserved IMO.
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I would hate to be judged down for something I had just done, because I might be able to do something better at a later date. I would much rather be judged for what I had just done. Ray Quinn, in my opinion today deserved 6's all the way, if I was on the panel, directive or not, I would have given him a six. Then Ruthie could have had a go at me and I would have said "F*ck off Ruthie you have had your say - so zip it - Capeesh..."
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I think you should be a judge!
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Now if Nicky had given him a six, that would have been just and deserved IMO.
