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Well we agree on Ray
Now if Nicky had given him a six, that would have been just and deserved IMO. |
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Thank you - should I post my application form now - or just drag Ruthie out by her oversized necklace, throw her in the bin and sit in her seat?
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What is more worrying about Ruthie is that she clearly has picked Zoe as her little favourite- she overlooked a mistake tonight- gave her a 4.0. Karen, Nicky and Robin correctly marked Zoe down.
And what is more annoying is that she marked Elleray low for a clean performance. Maybe Robin should have a word with her and give a course on the art of marking Ruthie was pretty consistent. Easy and badly done got 2s. Easy got 3 s , Zoe with a wobble gets a 4 because its worth more than Colleeen's even with a wobble. Ray gets 5. |
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Their marks were absurd though because they had been throwing 4s and 4.5s at easy routines. They ended up giving the best routine 1/2 mark more than Colleen's and then marking Zoe lower than Colleen for one wobble. Their marks refelcted the ability of the performer and whether they had got better not the difficulty of the performance or how one performance related to another.
Ruthie was pretty consistent. Easy and badly done got 2s. Easy got 3 s , Zoe with a wobble gets a 4 because its worth more than Colleeen's even with a wobble. Ray gets 5. |
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Their marks were absurd though because they had been throwing 4s and 4.5s at easy routines. They ended up giving the best routine 1/2 mark more than Colleen's and then marking Zoe lower than Colleen for one wobble. Their marks refelcted the ability of the performer and whether they had got better not the difficulty of the performance or how one performance related to another.
Ruthie was pretty consistent. Easy and badly done got 2s. Easy got 3 s , Zoe with a wobble gets a 4 because its worth more than Colleeen's even with a wobble. Ray gets 5. |
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Their marks were absurd though because they had been throwing 4s and 4.5s at easy routines. They ended up giving the best routine 1/2 mark more than Colleen's and then marking Zoe lower than Colleen for one wobble. Their marks refelcted the ability of the performer and whether they had got better not the difficulty of the performance or how one performance related to another.
Ruthie was pretty consistent. Easy and badly done got 2s. Easy got 3 s , Zoe with a wobble gets a 4 because its worth more than Colleeen's even with a wobble. Ray gets 5. |
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But she has no credibility now- she undermarks those who don't make a mistake and overmarks those who do(Zoe)
They can't keep her on for that- or at least Robin should have a word with her She's marking to a more complex standard than knocking one off for a mistake. Zoe's good points outweigh much of her mistake. She's also marking for performance and Zoe's routine had more wow factor than most of the girls and as much as the best of them. |
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I think those that performed better than Zoe should have had marks of 4.0 from Ruthie. So she ain't perfect/consistent at scoring either.
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Rightly so- hopefully Robin has takenn Ruthie down a peg or two- after her little performance
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People seem to want to dislike Ruthie as she doesn't come from an ice skating background. Her point was totally valid, she was not saying that the person who skates first is marked down in case those after are better - but if Nicky had've given a 5.5 or 6.0 to Ray then it leaves no room for improvement.
I do agree that Ruthie's handling of the situation wasn't great but I don't see how else she could've approached the situation whilst on air. Nicky's scores are nothing to do with her (and her's are no - one elses business either!). OK I agree that his mark for Coleen was too high but Ruthie should not have passed any comment about it to him on air - she should have taken him up on it whilst the camera/ sound was off the panel or in the ad break. Her behaviour was totally unprofessional and how she feels she can take a champion ice skater to task on his scoring when she knows the square root of eff all about skating and/ or ice dancing was totally out of order. Nicky knows and understands what he is looking at - she doesn't and neither does Jason as was demonstrated by their silly marks for Zoe when compared to the real skaters! |
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She's marking to a more complex standard than knocking one off for a mistake. Zoe's good points outweigh much of her mistake. She's also marking for performance and Zoe's routine had more wow factor than most of the girls and as much as the best of them.
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She's marking to a more complex standard than knocking one off for a mistake. Zoe's good points outweigh much of her mistake. She's also marking for performance and Zoe's routine had more wow factor than most of the girls and as much as the best of them.
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It seems no reality show is complete these days without some form of a voting scandal, it will be good for column inches though.
![]() I get the impression nobody much likes Nicky on that panel. |
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But that is the marking system judges use in cimpetitions. I would think Robin, Karen and Nicky would use that system- why should Ruthie be any different. Compared to those three she knows nothing about skating competitions
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It seems no reality show is complete these days without some form of a voting scandal, it will be good for column inches though.
![]() I get the impression nobody much likes Nicky on that panel. |
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It seems no reality show is complete these days without some form of a voting scandal, it will be good for column inches though.
![]() I get the impression nobody much likes Nicky on that panel.
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Oh please shut your gob Ruthie!!!!!
That's not nice
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GOD! It's not about her marks! It's about whether she has the right to undermine fellow judges. Answer - she has no such right. Does she have the right to interrupt his opinion? No - and certanly not to bring it up two dances later. If someone did it to her she would be lived - If someone has an opinion about ANYTHING they are entitled to it. Unless it's a race where everyone runs to a line then opinions will always be divided. My partner thought Melinda Messenger was great - I can't stand her so if she did an olympic standard routine I would say she was crap - cos I am human! Ruth's comments were not acceptable. I bet there are sparks going on now!
Why shouldn't she point out his marks are silly when they are? Everyone does it to Jason and its part of the routine on SCD. The point of having judges is for them to argue their case when they are not agreed - otherwise they all look pointlessly random. I doubt if she would be if the producers hadn't wanted a controversy. There also seems to be something going on with Nicky - his dig at Robin over his instructions and the lack of times Nicky has been asked his opinion before tonight suggests either there's a genuine problem between judges or the producers want us to think there is. |
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well going by his scoring of Colleen tonight, you wouldn't have thought Nicky knew anything about skating competitions.
That is the problem- Ruthie turned a blind eye to a an obvious mistake- if Michael say had done that I bet Ruthie would have marked him down |
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Why shouldn't she point out his marks are silly when they are? Everyone does it to Jason and its part of the routine on SCD. The point of having judges is for them to argue their case when they are not agreed - otherwise they all look pointlessly random. I doubt if she would be if the producers hadn't wanted a controversy. There also seems to be something going on with Nicky - his dig at Robin over his instructions and the lack of times Nicky has been asked his opinion before tonight suggests either there's a genuine problem between judges or the producers want us to think there is.
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But how do the producers expect anyone to have any respect for Ruthie now- least of all the viewers
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But how do the producers expect anyone to have any respect for Ruthie now- least of all the viewers
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SHE didn't need to handle the situation whilst on air!
Nicky's scores are nothing to do with her (and her's are no - one elses business either!). OK I agree that his mark for Coleen was too high but Ruthie should not have passed any comment about it to him on air - she should have taken him up on it whilst the camera/ sound was off the panel or in the ad break. Her behaviour was totally unprofessional and how she feels she can take a champion ice skater to task on his scoring when she knows the square root of eff all about skating and/ or ice dancing was totally out of order. Nicky knows and understands what he is looking at - she doesn't and neither does Jason as was demonstrated by their silly marks for Zoe when compared to the real skaters! Another thing I've noticed about Ruthie is, that she has her favourites and marks them accordingly. |
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Why shouldn't she point out his marks are silly when they are? Everyone does it to Jason and its part of the routine on SCD.
) interrupted Ruthie in order to make some comments on Ray.
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Colleen didn't make an obvious mistake as Zoe. I agree the mark from Nicky to Colleen was excessive. 3 would have been a fair mark- and Karen, Robin and Nicky marked Zoe down, and rightly so.
That is the problem- Ruthie turned a blind eye to a an obvious mistake- if Michael say had done that I bet Ruthie would have marked him down |
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Now if Nicky had given him a six, that would have been just and deserved IMO.

) interrupted Ruthie in order to make some comments on Ray.