She clearly favours Zoe- she could fall over and still get 4.

If any of the PTB are reading this- one message. Bring back Krez

There you go again - says you! I thought Coleen was better - you thought she wasn't. Who is right? None of us!! It's a matter of opinion. This thread was about Ruthie Pig ignorant comments not to discuss who was a better skater or not.

This thread was telling Ruthie to 'shut her gob'. I think Nicky should 'shut his gob' if he can't score fairly.

Yes- and it happened in the ice dance when the reigning champions fell over in a technically very difficult dance- they were rightly marked down by all the judges, and ended up fifth.
You cannot mark on reputations and you certainly can't betray any favouritism- which Ruthie showed tonight

None of this applies to Zoe who was as wobbly through most of her performance as last week. She badly handled the step routine, missed out elements, left Matt standing still and then caught her skates when he lifted her. She did not even deserve the 3.0 IMO but no way a 4.0- does this mean even if she falls flat Ruthie will give her a 4+ every week because she likes her?

I am not a Colleen fan but she performed her entire routine more smoothly and performed the whole thing. She wasn't great this week or last.

The point is none of this should matter- the marks are the judges to award and no-one elses to question whether we agree or not. Ruthie disagreed, more than once and on air which is the most unprofessional thing she could have done.

I think you might find that Robin Cousins, Karen Barber and Nicky Slater have all had many many years of actually COMPETING in and WINNING real ice skating competitions not merely WATCHING them!

If you honestly think that the opinions of two stage performers carry more weight and credibility than those of three of the best skaters this country has ever produced then you seriously need some help!

I think he did score fairly. You disagree so we agree to disagree THAT is what RUTHIE should have done. She should get over herself - It aint the Olympics it's a celebrity show. It aint the kind of things nations go to war over and it CERTAINLY not the kind of thing that required her to be as ignorant as she clearly was. Ruthie's career is pretty lamentable really in the big picture. I doubt her ability to judge someone in anything apart from bad manners which she is clearly an expert at.

Yes but that was in the short programme where you have to get everying technically perfect. But in the long programme, it does not matter so much, as long as you don't fall over all the time

I can see where you are coming from with Ruthie but as I say it didn't bother me. What worries me is that you think he scored Colleen fairly.

That doesn't really make sense?

Nicky didn't shout over everyone else to get his opinion across. He didn't hyjack someone else's peformance when it was not at all relevent.

No I do not think the opinions of 2 stage performers carry more weight than the other 3. I just believe that Nicky was wrong in his marking of Colleen, I thought it was embarrassing.

This is all Bollo*ks anyway. Look on Strictly -they kept John in for weeks - Cos it's not really to be taken seriously. In the end the rubbish gets filtered out. The public turn it around. This is not about the contest this is about how much of a bitch she was!

Actually that is incorrect. The compulsory dances carry 25% of the marks, the original dance is 40% and the remainder goes to the free dance. The Free Dance is the most important- Look at Faella& Scalli in the free dance- it was an absolute turkey- and was marked down into fourth place in the free dance part of the competition

I don't think she was a bitch, just saying what she thought.

only read this last page so it may have been mentioned, but week after week I notice how often Ruthie marks the same as Jason. Could be coincidence or is she copying?

GOD!!!!!! I DIDN'T - It was an example~Why the hell would I be bothered about what score she got or if it was fair!!!!!!!
I was narked cos she is pig ignorant!
You sit their bothiering about trivialities such as fair scoring and using an Olympic standard scoring systerm and how that should be adhered to - Then the phone lines open up and the public balls it up anyway - the PUBLIC get 50% of the vote! So where is your high horsed scoring system there??? NOWHERE. This is about CIVILITY and MANNERS. She WAS rude. You can't possbily now think that your scoring system has any credibility when the public are, as we speak, phoning up????

I agree that Nicky overmarked Coleen - but his marks are his business - not Ruthie's - and he also explained WHY he marked Coleen highly when Holly asked him to!

Ruthie was bang out of order making ANY comment to Nicky - she might have her own scoring system but so may he....

She had no right whatsoever to pick him up on his marks for any skater - what do you think her actions did to Coleen's confidence???

Yes, it was overall not a very good programme, not as difficult and not skated as well as some of the others. John and Sinead were great though, weren't they?

Why are you getting so upset. OK she was rude, are you happy now.

Which she should have done OFF camera. Or, as the title of this thread suggests, kept her gob shut.

I am not upset at all. But you were on a different wavelength to everyone thinking about it being the manners and not the skating.
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This is not about me being dumb, I have an opinion, you have yours, I haven't called you dumb, now who's being rude and gobby?

Quick alert the Daily Mail readers - someone was rude to an old guy. Get her sacked!

Which I edited straight away and removed because I thought it was rude as soon as I posted it. I am more than happy to say sorry to you now.

No problem, I am not offended, it won't be the first time I have been called dumb and probably won't the last