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Me too tabitha - no matter how often we reiterate that rollerblading does not equate to ice dancing some will never be convinced, just as some don't want to be.
Ray's performances have utterly discredited the arguments that prior experience doesn't matter. |
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Dare I say it, he was faster than Maria and she couldn't keep up with him, so their synchronisation was out a bit, but it was her fault. Shows how good he is.
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Dare I say it, he was faster than Maria and she couldn't keep up with him, so their synchronisation was out a bit, but it was her fault. Shows how good he is.
He is good, VERY good. But suggesting that he's better than Maria? |
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It doesn't have to equate to ice skating to be a big help.
Ray's performances have utterly discredited the arguments that prior experience doesn't matter. |
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Ray is absolutely amazing. Im just mesmerized watching him skate. He is the best skater ever in the competition and its only week 3. I cant wait to see him improve over the weeks. Even T&D looked excited when they talked about where he can go. At last they have someone who can do the very difficult routines - theyll have to get their choregraphy thinking caps on. Hes a dead cert for the final.
And rollerblading and dancing are not the same as ice skating. And they can sometimes be a disadvantage - like with spotting while you spin. As Ray said if you do this while you skate then you will fall. Chris Fontaine had trouble adjusting from his hockey background last year to dancing with a partner also. He kept tripping on the toe-picks cause hockey skates dont have any. Ray for the Win
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Ray is absolutely amazing. Im just mesmerized watching him skate. He is the best skater ever in the competition and its only week 3. I cant wait to see him improve over the weeks. Even T&D looked excited when they talked about where he can go. At last they have someone who can do the very difficult routines - theyll have to get their choregraphy thinking caps on. Hes a dead cert for the final.
And rollerblading and dancing are not the same as ice skating. And they can sometimes be a disadvantage - like with spotting while you spin. As Ray said if you do this while you skate then you will fall. Chris Fontaine had trouble adjusting from his hockey background last year to dancing with a partner also. He kept tripping on the toe-picks cause hockey skates dont have any. Ray for the Win ![]() Yes he is brilliant and it`s a foregone conclusion he will win but he seems so damn cocky and arrogant which I`m sure will get worse as the judges continue to give him top marks every week
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I am looking forward to seeing how he improves more than any of the others at the moment. Last night showed he is certainly capable of different styles. Fabulous.
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The kid from The Adams Family!
Maria could dress up as Morticia and Ray as the kid and dance to the theme song!
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As someone who had no opinion either way on Ray Quinn before the show started Id like to say that I think his performance was astounding last night.
Yes, his Latin/Ballroom background has helped him but Id rather he have a slight advantage (like Jessica -previous contest, Michael -previous series!) and see fabulous routines than look forward to the monotony ofthe competition without him. At the very least the others will surely raise their game more than they would have had Ray not been involved.
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Go Ray!!!! Fanatastic performance and a truly lovely charming young man, he did Liverpool proud last night!!! WINNER!
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Michael's 33 weeks of training certainly haven't dispelled the myth.
The unfortunate fact is that we now have someone (Ray) whose prior experience has helped make him so much better at the start of DOI that it's unlikely anyone else will be that good by the end. It's already making a joke of the marking. If Ray gets 5.0, how can anyone else deserve 4.5? |
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And rollerblading and dancing are not the same as ice skating. And they can sometimes be a disadvantage - like with spotting while you spin. ... Rollerblading can be a huge help without being the same as ice skating. His dancing experience is obviously a big help too. Quote:
As Ray said if you do this while you skate then you will fall. Chris Fontaine had trouble adjusting from his hockey background last year to dancing with a partner also. He kept tripping on the toe-picks cause hockey skates dont have any.
Nonetheless, Chris's skating background was a big help to him in DOI. Any troubles he had with toe picks were insignificant.All of the arguments that prior experience doesn't help unless it's exactly ice dance experience, or that it doesn't matter when one of them has one kind of advantage because the others have other advantages -- arguments that almost made sense in Chris's case -- have been blown apart by Ray's performances. |
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It's a shame he's so dislikable.
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He's a great dancer, and it's clear that Jason likes him.
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I'd like to watch Ray's routine again. Is there anywhere online I can watch it? It doesn't seem to be on YT.
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The show is scrambling to point out such "disadvantages", but they are greatly outweighed by the advantages.
Rollerblading can be a huge help without being the same as ice skating. His dancing experience is obviously a big help too. Nonetheless, Chris's skating background was a big help to him in DOI. Any troubles he had with toe picks were insignificant. All of the arguments that prior experience doesn't help unless it's exactly ice dance experience, or that it doesn't matter when one of them has one kind of advantage because the others have other advantages -- arguments that almost made sense in Chris's case -- have been blown apart by Ray's performances. I don't think its fair to say its been blown apart by his performances, he may just be very naturally talented. I don't Ray has more of an advantage than Jessica or Micheal |
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And let's not forget - he was an average singer that four out of ten viewers voted for in preference to Leona Lewis in the X factor final. That's no mean achievement considering she is the best female singer to come out of the UK in years.
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Can't seem to take to Ray, no matter how good he is.
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They are essentially the same voters though...
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I think Ray is far from the boastful character some are portraying them as. Are the Ray haters the ones who disliked Chris Fountain last year? If you want to talk about an unpleasant, boastful young man CF fits that role perfectly. Ray is just talented and a joy to watch on the ice.
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Cos people always talk about the previous skaters and compare, its inevitable. I' m sure Chris would be quite annoyed if people ignored the fact he was ever in it and forgot about him... We're still bringing up the 1st series frequently let alone the last one... we're going on about Bonnie, Kyran, Claire, Gareth and Suzanne all the time too... Its only normal to compare, we cant just delete the last series from memory. Calm down.
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Cos people always talk about the previous skaters and compare, its inevitable. I' m sure Chris would be quite annoyed if people ignored the fact he was ever in it and forgot about him... We're still bringing up the 1st series frequently let alone the last one... we're going on about Bonnie, Kyran, Claire, Gareth and Suzanne all the time too... Its only normal to compare, we cant just delete the last series from memory.
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I agree that personal attacks are wrong and some are even disgusting but if you want to defend stuff you should be calm about, all sorts of people get things said about them on here, some of it is well out of order and awful but try to take it with a linch of salt and not used caps and shout at people... Ray and chris being compared is inevitable and some of the stuff being said about ray is far worse, it swings in roundabouts.
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Why do people keep going on about Chris Fountain all the time, he's NOT in the competition this year GET OVER IT. It amuses me to see that CF's confidence on the ice to some people came across as cockiness & boastful yet Rays confidence is called being young and enjoying himself, and they are the same age apart from a few months!!
Chris's participation is last year's news - he had many fans and finished a very creditable runner up. Ray is the butt of this year's shouts of 'unfair.' Nothing will change - the venom will continue and no doubt we'll still be hearing about Ray's 'previous experience' next year: along with whoever becomes next year's target. |
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We dont just slate previous contestants though there are lots of postive things said, more on other forums though but still. I always consider it good when they are brought up and positive comparisons are made, i dont like the whole last years news thing that squite insulting to them, cos some have contributed an awful lot to the show and its a good thing that their talent is still recognised, and you can do that without being stuck in the past. i still like talking about kyran, claire and Suzannes performances in particular and feel they should be talked about along with this years, comparisons are inevitable and the best of the best will still be talked about I'd imagine it a few series time.
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