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Old 26-01-2009, 21:02
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So, you wish to watch an incompetent (skate wise) make a fool of himself so that he can get some "air time"?
Call that entertainment?
Yes I do actually.

Miserable people like you take these shows far too seriousley. I loved John Sargeant on Strictly. His paso doble and cha cha cha were absoloutley hilarious, and I laughed even more at Todd last night.

What people without a sense of humour don't realise is the like of Todd and Sarge would never win these shows. The public do vote on merit in the end, but at this stage in the show does it really matter? We have not lost a quality skater yet.

Times are hard. People are losing their jobs, money is tight, homes are being reposessed. Shows like this lift out spirits and give us a good laugh.
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Old 26-01-2009, 21:12
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OP - No one you may consider worthy has left the competition because of the public keeping Todd in.

Had he left two weeks ago we would have missed out on the most hilarious spectacle I have ever seen on the show. Also seems to me he is trying hard and even better not whinging!

This is entertaining skating at it's best.
I'm still laughing when I think about it
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Old 26-01-2009, 23:48
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Or....

How about those that are overly concerned about skating quality and are hell-bent on a serious competition, tune into Eurosport for the World Skating Championships or the like?

The GBP aren't spoiling anything. It's our show and we are voting for who we want to watch each week.
Sid_1979 posts a lot of sense.
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Old 27-01-2009, 00:25
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I'm still laughing when I think about it
Me too.
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Old 27-01-2009, 00:28
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Why are people moaning? No ones forcing you to watch and endure this mockery as you call it. If you dont like the way the voting's going, switch off and let those of us who are enjoying the show do so in peace.
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Old 27-01-2009, 00:38
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I'm still laughing when I think about it
I just keep having images of Roxanne and Dan in the warm up area suddenly being confronted by an out of control Todd whizzing past them.
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Old 27-01-2009, 11:49
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There are dozens of so called comedy shows on TV but only one skating show on terrestrial TV. Threfore may I suggest that they concentrate on the skating skills on DOI and leave the buffoonery to Brand (Jo and Russell),the Office,
Little Brit etc etc.
I did laugh at Todd's antics but my objection was about keeping him in simply to play the fool.
I do appreciate that most on here prefer slapstick to skill and perhaps this is a national trend in the UK.
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Old 27-01-2009, 12:16
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I have 3 things to say about Here We Go Again

1. it's very nearly the title of a song by Whitesnake - I only reference this as in the 80's I had a massive crush on David Coverdale, thankfully I have now recovered.

2. Yes there are multiple threads all of a similar vein - que sera sera and all that - we are basically inherantly lazy so why bother to read someone else's thread when you can start your own. It happens and posting that you find it irritating keeps the thread bumped up so...work that one out lol

3. I'm going to use the 'S' Word so buckle up. Schadenfreude... and whereas the worst that could have befallen M. Sargent was a wounded ego, I fear Todd may actually harm more than his self esteem if he carries on like last night - bless him - I will freely admit I absolutely loved the albeit unintentional comedy of it..

and sue me, I just thought of a 4th

4. If past experience from both DOI and SCD is anything to go by, the GBP will find the natural 'level' of things eventually equilibrium will break out - I commiserate for those of you who's favourite will fall by the wayside along the way - but That's Showbiz....

Excellent post - and very amusing.
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Old 27-01-2009, 12:32
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There are dozens of so called comedy shows on TV but only one skating show on terrestrial TV. Threfore may I suggest that they concentrate on the skating skills on DOI and leave the buffoonery to Brand (Jo and Russell),the Office,
Little Brit etc etc.
I did laugh at Todd's antics but my objection was about keeping him in simply to play the fool.
I do appreciate that most on here prefer slapstick to skill and perhaps this is a national trend in the UK.
Oh do get over yourself ITS AN ENTERAINMENT SHOW! Like Sid says if you want skill then watch the championships on Eurosport.

Look at the posts on this thread. People do appreciate skill, but they also want a good laugh. Just because you have had a sense of humour byepass don't expect everyone else to feel the same.
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Old 27-01-2009, 15:02
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Oh do get over yourself ITS AN ENTERAINMENT SHOW! Like Sid says if you want skill then watch the championships on Eurosport.

Look at the posts on this thread. People do appreciate skill, but they also want a good laugh. Just because you have had a sense of humour byepass don't expect everyone else to feel the same.
Well said.

I can't wait for next week .
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Old 27-01-2009, 15:38
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Sid_1979 posts a lot of sense.
Aww shucks - thanks

There are dozens of so called comedy shows on TV but only one skating show on terrestrial TV. Threfore may I suggest that they concentrate on the skating skills on DOI and leave the buffoonery to Brand (Jo and Russell),the Office,
Little Brit etc etc
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Thank heavens there are people working for the show who think differently! Otherwise we'd all be bored stiff and viewing figures would plummet.

The skating skills we see on DOI are incredibly basic. If you're after triple axels, flips, toe-loops and so on then DOI probablly isn't the show for you.

If you want a giggle and some impressive amateur skating, stay tuned
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Old 27-01-2009, 17:20
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So, you wish to watch an incompetent (skate wise) make a fool of himself so that he can get some "air time"?
Call that entertainment?
In a word.....YES
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Old 27-01-2009, 18:46
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DOI is the only skating on terrestrial TV. I can't get Eurosport now.
I do realise it's so easy to be "one of the boys/girls" who loves "a good giggle" but I would appreciate one show where taking the michael is not an essential part of the show.
Everyone on TV now wishes to be a comedian and erks like you lot keep these jokers going.

To paraphrase: Laugh and you're one of the lads, don't laugh and you're not with the "in crowd".
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Old 27-01-2009, 18:51
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DOI is the only skating on terrestrial TV. I can't get Eurosport now.

Everyone on TV now wishes to be a comedian and erks like you lot keep these jokers going.
They show highlights of the World and European Championships on the BBC - I shall let you know when they're on so as you don't miss out on your fix of serious skating

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Old 28-01-2009, 11:30
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Cheers, erk
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Old 28-01-2009, 11:44
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DOI is supposed to be Dancing on Ice but when Todd Cart comes along it's more like COI, Clowning on Ice.
Sure it's slightly amusing but not the world shattering laugh that some of the posters on here think.
Can't imagine people still splitting their sides days after
because someone shows how useless they are.
Must be easy to make these people laugh.
If you were an employer would you set on the clumsy idiot who makes you laugh or the most competent.
If Cart isn't out this week the show is a farce.
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Old 28-01-2009, 13:55
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DOI is supposed to be Dancing on Ice but when Todd Cart comes along it's more like COI, Clowning on Ice.
Sure it's slightly amusing but not the world shattering laugh that some of the posters on here think.
Can't imagine people still splitting their sides days after
because someone shows how useless they are.
Must be easy to make these people laugh.
If you were an employer would you set on the clumsy idiot who makes you laugh or the most competent.
If Cart isn't out this week the show is a farce.
It does not matter how many times people say its a skating competition, I for one view it as an entertainment show full stop. I dont care less about who goes and when as long as I am being entertained.
I also view the entertainment in different ways because yes Ray entertains me with his wonderful performances but also Todd entertains me with his comedy value. I liked Todd before his routine this week simply because he is funny and I dont think he will ever get that much better no matter how hard he tries.
When it comes down to it,If I were an employer wanting to take on someone to entertain then I guess I would employ Todd because that is exactly what he has done.
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Old 28-01-2009, 14:21
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DOI is supposed to be Dancing on Ice but when Todd Cart comes along it's more like COI, Clowning on Ice.
Sure it's slightly amusing but not the world shattering laugh that some of the posters on here think.
Can't imagine people still splitting their sides days after
because someone shows how useless they are.
Must be easy to make these people laugh.
If you were an employer would you set on the clumsy idiot who makes you laugh or the most competent.
If Cart isn't out this week the show is a farce.
Nope things just aren't going your way. I bet you call a show a fix when your favourite doesn't win...

The fact of the matter is that Todd entertains people enough to vote for them. At the end of the day this is an entertainment show based upon a skating competition. The public vote is included to stop the predictable happening and for the judges not to have complete control over everything.

If you dont like the way things are going then exercise your own power and vote for someone else.

IMO Todd was really funny last week; I wouldn't necessarily have voted for him, but its moments like that that make these types of shows. Like JS doing his marching etc - its a weekend escape that makes you laugh and feel good.
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Old 28-01-2009, 14:27
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The fact of the matter is that Todd entertains people enough to vote for them. At the end of the day this is an entertainment show based upon a skating competition. The public vote is included to stop the predictable happening and for the judges not to have complete control over everything.

If you dont like the way things are going then exercise your own power and vote for someone else.
Well said, yohinnchild

Oh, and clayton_st, why are you calling Todd a cart? His surname is Carty.
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Old 28-01-2009, 14:33
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So, you wish to watch an incompetent (skate wise) make a fool of himself so that he can get some "air time"?
Call that entertainment?
One of the best and funniest moments on British TV history, actually!

I suggest you use your remote control to exercise your freedom of choice instead of moaning!
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Old 28-01-2009, 15:24
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Look, ice dancing can be dangerous for both of the partners.
What would all the people who seem to be amused by Carty's tomfoolery say if he caused an injury to himself or his partner?
Last years show involved one of the celebs breaking an ankle and he was a far better skater than Carty.
No doubt the dopes who are calling for him to be kept in would disappear from this thread or maybe they'd find that funny?
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Old 28-01-2009, 15:33
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Look, ice dancing can be dangerous for both of the partners.
What would all the people who seem to be amused by Carty's tomfoolery say if he caused an injury to himself or his partner?
Last years show involved one of the celebs breaking an ankle and he was a far better skater than Carty.
No doubt the dopes who are calling for him to be kept in would disappear from this thread or maybe they'd find that funny?
No I would not find it funny if anyone hurt themselves,but Todds partner is only ever going to do what ever is within Todds capabilitys.
I'm sure they are all aware of the dangers before they go on the show,however I dont consider myself a dope for wanting him to continue in the show either so there,also dont consider that it would be my fault if anyone had an accident either just because I supported them.
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Old 28-01-2009, 15:39
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Bit of a random question this, so apologies in advance..

How wide are the blades on those skates? Anyone know ?
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Old 28-01-2009, 15:41
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Judging by the warm resonse to Todds latest performance, the Great British Public do not want a competition, they want to sit down with their family, and watch a Light Entertainment Show.

Three cheers for Light Entertainment.
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Old 28-01-2009, 17:34
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Bit of a random question this, so apologies in advance..

How wide are the blades on those skates? Anyone know ?

A skate blade is approx 4mm wide and is ground into a shallow concave shape across the width to give two sharp edges (an inside and an outside edge, which is what enables a skate to turn - putting weight on an outside edge makes the skater curve/turn in that direction and vice versa. Well that's a bit simplified but the right sort of idea)
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