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janymac
28-01-2009
I can't see why everyone is getting so excited about him- he was told what to do on the whole and made the routine over the top becuase his skaing is so poor.
Pices-55
28-01-2009
Originally Posted by janymac:
“I can't see why everyone is getting so excited about him - he was told to do what he did on the whole - they made his whole routine into an over the top act becuase his skating is so poor. I will be outraged if he were to win it over someone like Ray or whoever scrubs up good just because of the public vote. I feel sorry for those who are trying really hard to push boundaries and succeeding so well they have made it look easy.”

Outraged!! thats a bit over the top dont you think. And what do you mean by just because of the public vote surely its the public vote that is required to make the show even watchable. Its pure entertainment IMO and long may it go on.
BTW the reason we are getting excited is because Todd has given many people a real good laugh,twas very funny.
janymac
28-01-2009
well yes outraged might be a bit strong, but I see this as a talent contest which is meant to be entertaining, not the entertaining making a mockery of the skill that many are working hard to put in to the routine. I meant more outraged for the "good" contestant's point of view. It would be quite wrong for him to win just becuase he was so awful he was entertaining.

By the way, I laughed as much as anyone else, but it certainly didn't make me vote for him, and there is no way I would go and see the Tour if he was in it - I was thinking of going this year. But there you go, that's my choice and my opinion
Sofajudge
28-01-2009
At this stage of the competition, I don't think there is any harm in skaters with Tod's ability remaining in the competition. I think he will leave in a couple of weeks or so and if not that is down to the public!

Personally in the final stage I would like to see performers with some skill but it is only a show on the T.V.
milagrosa
28-01-2009
tbh, I don't think Todd is a good enough skater to have pulled that stunt off. Pure, hilarious accident imo
Pices-55
28-01-2009
Originally Posted by janymac:
“well yes outraged might be a bit strong, but I see this as a talent contest which is meant to be entertaining, not the entertaining making a mockery of the skill that many are working hard to put in to the routine. I meant more outraged for the "good" contestant's point of view. It would be quite wrong for him to win just becuase he was so awful he was entertaining.

By the way, I laughed as much as anyone else, but it certainly didn't make me vote for him, and there is no way I would go and see the Tour if he was in it - I was thinking of going this year. But there you go, that's my choice and my opinion”

Well I think you may be right that some of the celebs will be outraged,but I dont see it as a talent contest at all,if so what is their prize. X Factor is a talent contest DOI is an entertainment programme where celebs are paid to entertain us the viewing public by doing something different to their day job and they will get the boost to their career.
All that can be hurt is their pride and BTW I think Ray is fantastic but if he were to gain an oversized ego by acting hard done by then I would lose respect for him.(not that I think he would) but honestly I think it should not be taken too seriously, Its just fun.
kaycee
28-01-2009
Jayne or Chris did say something to the effect that Todd was meant to skate off the ice, but it didn't go as planned...... It went wrong when he had to let go his zimmerframe.... sorry, his partners hand! Nevertheless, it was funny, but it won't work a second time, and if he wants to stay in the show, he needs to learn to skate.
gerry d
28-01-2009
Originally Posted by janymac:
“I can't see why everyone is getting so excited about him- he was told what to do on the whole and made the routine over the top becuase his skaing is so poor.”

The ending didn't go as planned.That is what made it so funny.
yohinnchild
28-01-2009
I don't care if he was - it was still bloody funny
cute chick
28-01-2009
Lol it took me a while to work out what the title of this thread meant!

Todd didn't deliberately trip. He was meant to wave, skate down the tunnel, turn round, and skate back out. Only it didn't quite go as planned

I still think it was hilarious!
Stfne
28-01-2009
Yeah, it wasn't put on, he's not a good enough skater to fake a stumble like that, it actually takes a bit of skill to trip up on your toe picks deliberately and not fall over at the end of it (which he did).
minxymoo
28-01-2009
Do people on here honestly think he has the skill to do a Harold Lloyd style faux pas.the guy is hopeless and he will go far in it for being crap...but not far enough to win.
I wouldnt be surprised if he doesnt injure himself in the end to be honest.
I like Todd and i have no problem with him being in it...for now.
Cookies&Cream
28-01-2009
My main worry about Todd is that he is going to get seriousley hurt. He is dangerous on the ice, but its funny
diva_moon
28-01-2009
Is OP claiming that Todd is in fact a pretty good skater and wouldn't ever make a wrong move on the ice unless he was directed to?

Well in that case, we must enter him for the next World Championships!
dancin' fool
29-01-2009
It was DEFINATELY choreographed that he 'loose control' at that point and go out through the tunnel to return just in time for the ending. Chris and Jayne told us this.

I think he looks out of control most of the time. Thats the fun of it isn't it? Has us all glued in case he comes a cropper.

All that went 'better than planned' as Chris said was that while pretending to be out of control he lost it for real and it became a genuine scramble to stay upright.
memmh
29-01-2009
Originally Posted by minxymoo:
“Do people on here honestly think he has the skill to do a Harold Lloyd style faux pas.”

Some people obviously do but must people realise that Todd doesn't have that skill.

Someone on another thread pointed out that the unpopular contestants tend to go first and then the weakest of those remaining. Of course, there are always exceptions but that seems to be the general pattern.

I'm guessing (hoping!) that this will be the case with Todd. For some reason Gemma and Jeremy didn't endear themselves to the public but all the remaining contestants are more or less liked. They all have detractors, of course, but I don't think any of them are strongly disliked.

All the other contestants have potential to improve but somehow I don't think Todd has: he's probably gone about as far as he can go. Therefore, I imagine he'll be out in the next couple of weeks - hopefully before he injures himself!



Originally Posted by dancin' fool:
“It was DEFINATELY choreographed that he 'loose control' at that point and go out through the tunnel to return just in time for the ending. Chris and Jayne told us this.

I think he looks out of control most of the time. Thats the fun of it isn't it? Has us all glued in case he comes a cropper.

All that went 'better than planned' as Chris said was that while pretending to be out of control he lost it for real and it became a genuine scramble to stay upright.”

It was choreographed that he would exit into the tunnel in a controlled fashion; he doesn't have the skill to fake losing control.
Dangermoose
29-01-2009
Originally Posted by yohinnchild:
“I don't care if he was - it was still bloody funny”


Here here!
Spotty Socks
29-01-2009
Im not bothered if it was staged it was hilarious and made me laugh so much.
winenroses
29-01-2009
Well, it's no secret that it was choreographed for him to wave his arms in the air and go down the tunnel, as both the commentator and Christopher Dean more or less said so. Perhaps you missed it OP? That would have been very funny in itself and a particularly inspired idea, but he lost control and it became even funnier. It was comedy gold and very entertaining.
JaynieD
29-01-2009
Originally Posted by Stfne:
“Yeah, it wasn't put on, he's not a good enough skater to fake a stumble like that, it actually takes a bit of skill to trip up on your toe picks deliberately and not fall over at the end of it (which he did).”

Yes, on the wide screen version you actually see him keel over backwards as he gets into the tunnel (still lmao at it!!!) The fact it took him so long to fall after catching his toe pick is a miracle ... I'm a more proficient skater than Todd and last time I did that (last August) I did a 'Superman' flight across the ice and cracked a couple of ribs - ouch!
lea27
29-01-2009
Originally Posted by milagrosa:
“tbh, I don't think Todd is a good enough skater to have pulled that stunt off. Pure, hilarious accident imo ”

The voice over guy said that it was planned!
SylviaB
29-01-2009
Originally Posted by Pices-55:
“Well I think you may be right that some of the celebs will be outraged,but I dont see it as a talent contest at all,if so what is their prize.”

I think the celebs will be extremely well paid so if they go out early they will have earned their money very easily!!!

Those who stay longest will have much more to do and loads of difficult steps so I doubt Jeremy Edwards would be too concerned at Todd staying last week as he's got off lightly having only done two weeks of skating! Todd was 10x more entertaining than JE!
memmh
29-01-2009
Originally Posted by lea27:
“The voice over guy said that it was planned!”

It was planned that he exit into the tunnel in a controlled manner, waving as he did so.

It wasn't planned that he stumble, exit into the tunnel completely out of control, crash into the back of the set, end up on his backside and then be picked up and pushed back out of the tunnel by the crew, which is what actually happened. He's not skilled enough to be able to fake that epic exit!

Look at this ITV Dancing on Ice webvid to hear about it from the people who were backstage at the time.

Phillip Schofield also describes it in his blog and has a behind-the-scenes vid about it on his wbsite as well.
Hotelier
29-01-2009
Originally Posted by milagrosa:
“tbh, I don't think Todd is a good enough skater to have pulled that stunt off. Pure, hilarious accident imo ”

I agree with other Fm's here, faking a stumble on ice is extrmely hard to do for even an experienced skater.
Now way could Todd do it!.
winenroses
30-01-2009
Originally Posted by winenroses:
“Well, it's no secret that it was choreographed for him to wave his arms in the air and go down the tunnel, as both the commentator and Christopher Dean more or less said so. Perhaps you missed it OP? That would have been very funny in itself and a particularly inspired idea, but he lost control and it became even funnier. It was comedy gold and very entertaining.”

I've already posted this.
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