Ray's skating: flashy but overrated. Will he peak too soon?

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BuddyBontheNet

04-02-2009

Originally Posted by javjamoll84:
“He's good but I think he needs to tone it down a bit this week with a slower song. He skates well and moves fine, but he's still a bit shakey, needs to calm it down and show he can be versitile with song choices.”

I'd say he's already done that - his routine in week two was a slow routine skated to 'You make it real' and that showed how much control he needed to have. His nerves got the better of him last Saturday it was clear from the VT he puts so much pressure on himself.

on_tender_hooks

04-02-2009

Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“I'd say he's already done that - his routine in week two was a slow routine skated to 'You make it real' and that showed how much control he needed to have. His nerves got the better of him last Saturday it was clear from the VT he puts so much pressure on himself.”

don't you mean sunday my friend.

BuddyBontheNet

04-02-2009

Originally Posted by on_tender_hooks:
“don't you mean sunday my friend. ”

Maybe....

gritty

04-02-2009

Originally Posted by bendymixer:
“I hope Jayne and Chris do Ice dancing stuff with Ray as that will suit him rather than push him towards doing lifts or jumps he isnt confident with

Having known Ray for years in the dance world I got the impression from hinm on Sunday that he wasnt ok with the routine from the off”

I so agree with you and I think that's what Jason was saying as well but I think we might be disappointed for a few weeks but hopefully towards the end when it becomes more important they will revert to highlighting his skaing/dance and partnering(connection) skills.

tabithakitten

04-02-2009

Originally Posted by lilyscent:
“How can you possibly say Chris F didn't develop his skating skills. He was the first celebrity ever to do a helicopter spin lift, first to do a flambo lift and the spin that he did in the Cry me a River routine was amazing.”

I wasn't trying to imply that Chris didn't develop his skating skills at all - what I said was that he didn't develop as I hoped he would. He began with confidence and aplomb but, while he learned a few more tricks and skated some good routines, I wanted to see him really turn into something special. He didn't imo. He still never really convinced me as a dancer on ice.

memmh

04-02-2009

Ray isn't the only one out his comfort zone. I don't understand why he shouldn't be challenged as much as everyone else?

spunk_1

04-02-2009

Oh I don't think he has. He seems like the type that's determined to get better and better and fight harder.

xbling

04-02-2009

To me Ray seems to be the type of person to push and push himself and really speaking I think he is pushing himself too far, too quick.
From what I have seen, he is very good. A lot of the other celeb skaters can't skate on their own and once they have to start doing that, they will come unstuck.

*Wysiwyg*

05-02-2009

Originally Posted by memmh:
“Ray isn't the only one out his comfort zone. I don't understand why he shouldn't be challenged as much as everyone else? ”

If all the celebs were being made to perform the SAME routine we would be able to see just how much they are all being 'challenged'!

Ray appears to be more able on the ice and is getting more difficult and dangerous routines than many of the others. This is unfair and may be his downfall.

Rayforever

05-02-2009

Originally Posted by *Wysiwyg*:
“If all the celebs were being made to perform the SAME routine we would be able to see just how much they are all being 'challenged'!

Ray appears to be more able on the ice and is getting more difficult and dangerous routines than many of the others. This is unfair and may be his downfall.”

he obviously wants to do that though. If it was really that hard and they thought he could not do it they would pull the move out the routine it's been done before.

Plus if he stays on one level and does not try these moves that could also be his down fall too. I'm glad he his trying new stuff and trying raise his own bar everyweek. Its good to watch

The bit he tripped on he was actually getting it perfect it training watch the mid-week training clip. Just on the night nerves and maybe the paper story of his childhood girlfriend who sold a story on him took over his head.

Jane Doh!

06-02-2009

I'm sure he'll do well this weekend.

BuddyBontheNet

06-02-2009

Originally Posted by Jane Doh!:
“I'm sure he'll do well this weekend.”

I hope so, I'm looking forward to watching him skate.

Jane Doh!

06-02-2009

Me too.

tabithakitten

07-02-2009

That doesn't make sense. Would you really want to see Ray and Todd performing the same routines? Bearing in mind what you know Todd to be (in)capable of?

Why would you want to restrict someone who is capable of exceptionally high standards or extend someone far beyond what he can do?

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