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Foogenstroppe
01-02-2009
When are we going to get more HD channels on Freesat.BBC dont show many and what they show is still not varied enough.ITV is total rubbish,maybe three or four programs a week.I wish they would get their finger out,Sky seems to opening new HD channels all the time.If Freesat want to keep customers then give us more programs soon.
Snoods
01-02-2009
Sky subscribers are paying monthly HD fees for their HD channels, where does the money come from for extra freesat HD programming ?

Of course it would be nice to have more HD, but it's not going to happen anytime soon, the next HD channel that will appear on the freesat platform in my opinion will be Channel 4 HD when it's free from the Sky contract.

If you wan't a wider choice of HD, it's there, if you are willing to pay for it.
Mike000000001
01-02-2009
Originally Posted by Foogenstroppe:
“When are we going to get more HD channels on Freesat.BBC dont show many and what they show is still not varied enough.ITV is total rubbish,maybe three or four programs a week.I wish they would get their finger out,Sky seems to opening new HD channels all the time.If Freesat want to keep customers then give us more programs soon.”

The BBC claim they are underfunded so can't afford more HD output. The others are in dire financial difficulties because the internet stole all their advertising, and Sky charge them so much for insertion into the Sky Guide.

As the contracts with Sky end, the other channels will move to Freesat's program guide to save money.
remlap
01-02-2009
Originally Posted by Mike000000001:
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As the contracts with Sky end, the other channels will move to Freesat's program guide to save money.”

To save money?

You don't seriously believe that Channel 4 HD will leave SKY's epg totally when/if they decided to join the freesat platform
derek500
01-02-2009
Originally Posted by Mike000000001:
“The BBC claim they are underfunded so can't afford more HD output. The others are in dire financial difficulties because the internet stole all their advertising, and Sky charge them so much for insertion into the Sky Guide.

As the contracts with Sky end, the other channels will move to Freesat's program guide to save money.”

And give up their Sky subs and rely on advertising which you say the internet has stolen!!

You've answered yourself why channels won't leave Sky and why all the new HD channels are going to them.

With Sky HD outselling Freesat HD by three to one, nothing will change. In fact it's making C4HD's decision to go FTA and stop receiving Sky's funding/uplinkling a much less likely outcome in the short term.
drumoyneguy
01-02-2009
This thread just has to be a add for Sky, i don't have freesat because its got more or less HD channels i have it because i don't want to pay throu the nose for it. when i am not paying sky subs i want a box that lets me record the free channels. Sky demands when you are not paying for channels that you pay rent to have the option to record.
There anytime option on there units don't relate to the package you have with sky so you end up with a lot in your box that you can't view. most of all I can't believe that anyone believes as you claim that people like me will dump our freesat box for Sky . Can anyone tell me do sky pay staff to set up daft threads to promote them
gagde
01-02-2009
Originally Posted by derek500:
“And give up their Sky subs and rely on advertising which you say the internet has stolen!!

You've answered yourself why channels won't leave Sky and why all the new HD channels are going to them.

With Sky HD outselling Freesat HD by three to one, nothing will change. In fact it's making C4HD's decision to go FTA and stop receiving Sky's funding/uplinkling a much less likely outcome in the short term.”

I thought ch4 hd uplinking was with red bee now i still think ch4 hd will be on freesat before the years out.
Berwhale
01-02-2009
CH4 have a public service obligation in their charter; they're in trouble financially and looking for help from the Government. It seems very unlikely that they would get away with not moving on to Freesat as soon as possible.
rjay60
01-02-2009
Originally Posted by Berwhale:
“CH4 have a public service obligation in their charter; they're in trouble financially and looking for help from the Government. It seems very unlikely that they would get away with not moving on to Freesat as soon as possible.”

Have you not read this?

http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/index.php/c4-hd-this-year
coopermanyorks
01-02-2009
Originally Posted by drumoyneguy:
“This thread just has to be a add for Sky, i don't have freesat because its got more or less HD channels i have it because i don't want to pay throu the nose for it. when i am not paying sky subs i want a box that lets me record the free channels. Sky demands when you are not paying for channels that you pay rent to have the option to record.
There anytime option on there units don't relate to the package you have with sky so you end up with a lot in your box that you can't view. most of all I can't believe that anyone believes as you claim that people like me will dump our freesat box for Sky . Can anyone tell me do sky pay staff to set up daft threads to promote them”

Its not a bad thing of the OP to expect Hd channels and less repeats on a £300 HD PVR box now is it ?
rjay60
02-02-2009
No not at all, I think we all expect it but if we get it soon is doubtful I guess. The opinion is CH4 HD will be the next later this year. Just more quality content would be nice too as Freesat does not suffer from the same limitations as Freeview does. Dave, Five us, Fiver and Virgin 1, all are on Freeview and the sooner they come to Freesat the sooner I can get rid of my Freeview PVR and make a bit of space under my tv lol.
jzee
02-02-2009
Originally Posted by derek500:
“With Sky HD outselling Freesat HD by three to one, nothing will change.”

I seriously doubt Sky increased their customers by 3 to 1 over Freesat, I think the jump is likely due to the £75 "Pay once watch forever" customers being included and a lot of those will have cancelled after 4/6 months and moved to Freesat or FSFS.
Nigel Goodwin
02-02-2009
Originally Posted by Berwhale:
“CH4 have a public service obligation in their charter; they're in trouble financially and looking for help from the Government. It seems very unlikely that they would get away with not moving on to Freesat as soon as possible.”

The public service obligation doesn't mean they have to go on Freesat, and doesn't apply to any HD channels anyway.

I certainly would expect them to eventually, but presumably it's all down to been able to afford to do so, and finding room to do so.
mossy2103
02-02-2009
Originally Posted by coopermanyorks:
“Its not a bad thing of the OP to expect Hd channels and less repeats on a £300 HD PVR box now is it ? ”

What has the retail price of a Humax box got to do with the content that is available from the broadcasters?
BKM
02-02-2009
Originally Posted by drumoyneguy:
“ Most of all I can't believe that anyone believes as you claim that people like me will dump our freesat box for Sky . Can anyone tell me do sky pay staff to set up daft threads to promote them”

If I had a Freesat STB (which I don't!) I would most certainly be looking to change as the quantity of HD (even looking into the medium term future!) would be totally unsatisfactory to me - so the idea isn't as totally crazy as you suggest! (And I don't work for SKy either!)
davemurgatroyd
02-02-2009
Originally Posted by drumoyneguy:
“This thread just has to be a add for Sky, i don't have freesat because its got more or less HD channels i have it because i don't want to pay throu the nose for it. when i am not paying sky subs i want a box that lets me record the free channels. Sky demands when you are not paying for channels that you pay rent to have the option to record.
There anytime option on there units don't relate to the package you have with sky so you end up with a lot in your box that you can't view. most of all I can't believe that anyone believes as you claim that people like me will dump our freesat box for Sky . Can anyone tell me do sky pay staff to set up daft threads to promote them”

Why does it have to be that anyone speaking in favour of Sky is working for or being paid by them? Is it paranoia because you don't feel your choice of platform is giving you what you want? Is everyone posting in favour of freesat, Freeview or virgin working for them?

You pays your money and makes your choice free UK TV with very limited HD or Sky with up to 32 HD channels.
PaulB67
02-02-2009
Originally Posted by davemurgatroyd:
“Why does it have to be that anyone speaking in favour of Sky is working for or being paid by them? Is it paranoia because you don't feel your choice of platform is giving you what you want? Is everyone posting in favour of freesat, Freeview or virgin working for them?

You pays your money and makes your choice free UK TV with very limited HD or Sky with up to 32 HD channels.”

Nothing wrong with defending $ky but why come onto a freesat forum to do it ?
coopermanyorks
02-02-2009
Originally Posted by coopermanyorks:
“Its not a bad thing of the OP to expect Hd channels and less repeats on a £300 HD PVR box now is it ? ”

Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“What has the retail price of a Humax box got to do with the content that is available from the broadcasters? ”


My point is that he as bought a HD PVR box and all he wants is more HD channels , he seems ticked of with BBC repeats and the current ITV offering , it just so happens he paid £300 for it ..........and I added a which maybe you missed
coopermanyorks
02-02-2009
Originally Posted by PaulB67:
“Nothing wrong with defending $ky but why come onto a freesat forum to do it ?”

Because thats where the anti Sky post point was been made ?
PaulB67
02-02-2009
Originally Posted by coopermanyorks:
“Because thats where the anti Sky post point was been made ?”

True, but whats a $ky subscriber doing in the freesat forums ??

Obviously they view freesat with envy
coopermanyorks
02-02-2009
Originally Posted by PaulB67:
“True, but whats a $ky subscriber doing in the freesat forums ??

Obviously they view freesat with envy ”

Its not against posting rules visit , view or post in a section you don't actually take is it .

I visit and post in the Cable , Std Sky ,freesat and Sky Hd sections but have Sky+

I keep an open mind as to what is good for me so visit other forums to see what is available , open your mind to alternatives to freesat

What is right for me may not be right for you , you may want a few HD channels and free recordings , I want lots of various channels and get free recording as part of the deal

Lets just compare notes and help everyone

I can't get Cable , freeview reception is quite poor , I want Subscription channels including kids , lifestyle and football so it kinda limits me to Sky over the uk possibilities

Purple button = Red button ?
PaulB67
02-02-2009
Originally Posted by coopermanyorks:
“Its not against posting rules visit , view or post in a section you don't actually take is it .

I visit and post in the Cable , Std Sky ,freesat and Sky Hd sections but have Sky+”

As long as you don't get tempted to click on the last purple button
mossy2103
02-02-2009
Originally Posted by coopermanyorks:
“My point is that he as bought a HD PVR box and all he wants is more HD channels , he seems ticked of with BBC repeats and the current ITV offering , it just so happens he paid £300 for it ..........and I added a which maybe you missed”

Sorry, I did miss it - must have been a bit of snow blindness!
coopermanyorks
02-02-2009
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“Sorry, I did miss it - must have been a bit of snow blindness! ”

Well we have our fair share Oop North to for a change
davemurgatroyd
02-02-2009
Originally Posted by PaulB67:
“True, but whats a $ky subscriber doing in the freesat forums ??

Obviously they view freesat with envy ”

I am a Sky subscriber BUT also have FTA receivers and at present am in no way even tempted by a freesat receiver which to me appears at least as crippled as the Sky dodgiboxes that everyone in this forum seems to hate. I too come here for information and to help people and also to correct errors where I spot them. Perhaps when (or maybe if) freesat receivers and the freesat platform mature sufficiently to meet most of my requirements I may replace one of my FTA or Freeview boxes with one.
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