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Roxanne: What is she doing wrong?
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superstar111
01-02-2009
She was miles better than both Zoe and Michael tonight IMO, yet she is always getting lower marks? I really dont get it, I feel for the both of them they must be so frustrated to be getting crappy marks when they were one of the better ones.


Please can someone tell me cos I'm not skating expert but I thought she was undermarked :\
Just Dance
01-02-2009
I don't think she was better than Zoe, but I definitely thought she skated better than Michael.

I would have given her a 4 tonight.
OathBreaker
01-02-2009
Agree I totally loved her performance tonight..sorry half the icepanel time to Sack.
she was IMO the best female performer tonight.
MACTOWIN
01-02-2009
For some reason Jaon marks her low every week cant understand why.
lightonmyfeet
01-02-2009
I'm not an ice skating expert either, but I thought she did well, she really seemed to perform it and get into what was expected of her. I was surprised when I saw the low (IMO) scores.
spunk_1
01-02-2009
I know! I was convinced she'd get 4's.
Psychosis
01-02-2009
She was better than Michael but I'm not sure if she was better than Zoe. She never looks very steady to me.

As a personal note, I don't really appreciate her continual mouthing off. Jason was perfectly polite to her and her remark was bitchy and unnecessary.
beauty-1
01-02-2009
She was good. I love her spirit and hope she goes far.
superstar111
01-02-2009
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“She was better than Michael but I'm not sure if she was better than Zoe. She never looks very steady to me.

As a personal note, I don't really appreciate her continual mouthing off. Jason was perfectly polite to her and her remark was bitchy and unnecessary.”

Tbf when she's getting half decent marks from others and Jason brings it down, it must be difficult.

If I was her, I'd feel like he was picking on her for the unecessarily ott comments, no wonder she's getting peeved off.
Tissy
01-02-2009
At least she skated on her own without being supported by her partner during the routine, unlike a few other females on there ............
missfrankiecat
01-02-2009
I assume she's being marked out for a 'journey' so is being marked low to look better later on. She's clearly better than some of the men who are scoring higher with some/all of the judges.
fisk166
01-02-2009
agree. Thought she deserved better scores
Psychosis
01-02-2009
Originally Posted by superstar111:
“Tbf when she's getting half decent marks from others and Jason brings it down, it must be difficult.

If I was her, I'd feel like he was picking on her for the unecessarily ott comments, no wonder she's getting peeved off.”

How was "You struggled with the lifts and need to learn to support your core" unnecessarily OTT? It was both correct and constructive.
bendymixer
01-02-2009
thought she skated well and was miles better than either Coleen or Melinda but not Zoe
Jill_Fan
01-02-2009
She did loads of skating on her own unlike Melinda, Coleen and Zoe, so she definitely should have got higher marks. Yeah Zoe has more speed over the ice but this week she didn't let go of Matts hand.
superstar111
01-02-2009
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“How was "You struggled with the lifts and need to learn to support your core" unnecessarily OTT? It was both correct and constructive.”

He's done it since the first week!
He has it in for her for some strange reason, not too different to Ruthie and Jessica.
beekay50uk
01-02-2009
I've enjoyed her routines, IMO better than Coleen, Michael and Melinda this week.
yohinnchild
01-02-2009
I thought it was ok... I just find her completely irratating andf I just cannot warm to her or like her
thenetworkbabe
01-02-2009
Originally Posted by superstar111:
“She was miles better than both Zoe and Michael tonight IMO, yet she is always getting lower marks? I really dont get it, I feel for the both of them they must be so frustrated to be getting crappy marks when they were one of the better ones.


Please can someone tell me cos I'm not skating expert but I thought she was undermarked :\”

Zoe was better. She skated better and her lifts were more difficult and had more wow factor.

Roxanne seems to me though to be getting it right. More personality than most of them , obviously trying and getting better. Will take risks. Is doing teh dangerous lifts and is more confident on the ice. There's no sign Jessica is going to get much better on the personality, acting or risk fronts and Melinda stalled this week too so I would think its a positive week for Roxanne.

The long term might be promising. If they havn't banned them Zoe may be too tall for the headbangers and overhead lifts and Ray isn't strong enough to do the male equivalent. Jessica isn't that far ahead and should have done more by now if she could. Roxanne as far as you can tell from TV may be just the right size. Who is short and dares wins.

The marks are the way they are because they are not using 2s for people like Colleen and once they have given her 3 and Ray a 5 there's just not enough marks left to split Jessica, Zoe, Michael and Roxy that accurately.
superstar111
01-02-2009
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Zoe was better. She skated better and her lifts were more difficult and had more wow factor.

Roxanne seems to me though to be getting it right. More personality than most of them , obviously trying and getting better. Will take risks. Is doing teh dangerous lifts and is more confident on the ice. There's no sign Jessica is going to get much better on the personality, acting or risk fronts and Melinda stalled this week too so I would think its a positive week for Roxanne.

The long term might be promising. If they havn't banned them Zoe may be too tall for the headbangers and overhead lifts and Ray isn't strong enough to do the male equivalent. Jessica isn't that far ahead and should have done more by now if she could. Roxanne as far as you can tell from TV may be just the right size. Who is short and dares wins.

The marks are the way they are because they are not using 2s for people like Colleen and once they have given her 3 and Ray a 5 there's just not enough marks left to split Jessica, Zoe, Michael and Roxy that accurately.”

Thank you for explaining.
TraceyUK
01-02-2009
Roxy was the only one do do any proper skating on her own but she gets marked down yet the last two years they have slated Dans partners for NOT skating on their own seems it doesnt matter what Dan does they are gonna mark him and his partner down. There had been no mention of the others NOT skating alone. Thankyou Nicky for at least giving them the credit they deserved.
thenetworkbabe
01-02-2009
Originally Posted by superstar111:
“Thank you for explaining.”

Its just my explanation. Markwise its reflected in Jason and Ruthie who both seem to think Zoe is the better entertainment act so far.

The problem with the marks is that there are so few options and you may be right they get it wrong. If you mark down from Ray its easy to see why she's on 3.5 say but if you start at Colleen or even Melinda this week she should be higher than them by a bigger margin. The problem with five people marking is that they are not all marking the performers against each other, some are marking up and down from Colleen and others are marking down from Ray......on top of that some may adjusting for the other judge's marks. The order isn't that wrong though and Roxanne is moving up it.
Lickers
01-02-2009
I think they are building her up over the weeks - they don't want her to peak to early so they're giving her rubbish scores to start with, I think she's the journey character because she IS improving each week whereas some of the other girls are staying in one spot.
bigbro24
01-02-2009
what was her score?
Sid_1979
01-02-2009
Roxanne seems a bit immature to me. She lacks grace on the ice.

And her partnership with her pro lacks chemistry.

Why do all the Emmerdale stars get paired with the same bloke?
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