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Eviesmum
02-02-2009
What is it with Ruthie's obsession with Zoe.

Yes Zoe is getting better, but was she really a point better than Jessica last night. Did her performance deserve a 4.5.

She seems to be the only one that is marking up due to having a favourite.
Pawsa
02-02-2009
I've mentioned this on another thread. Ruthie does seem to favour Zoe and also Colleen. I thought Ray was far better than Zoe, yet Ruthie only marked him .5 above her!
Eviesmum
02-02-2009
How can she be objective when she has clear favourites.

Surely that shouldn't be allowed.
lil_miss_blonde
02-02-2009
I totally agree i have noticed Ruthie's favourtism of Zoe and also the oppersite but Jason's picking on Roxanne. The judges should be fair and im sorry but some of them arnt
yohinnchild
02-02-2009
Ruthie seems to like Zoe and Melinda

Karen seems to big Coleen up at every opportunity as well

Jason did favour Ray; hates Roxanne (don't blame him)
lil_miss_blonde
02-02-2009
Originally Posted by yohinnchild:
“Ruthie seems to like Zoe and Melinda

Karen seems to big Coleen up at every opportunity as well

Jason did favour Ray; hates Roxanne (don't blame him)”

Tad harsh don't you think, the girl is trying her best and is better than quite a few in that competition.
pognog2
02-02-2009
Ruthie shows favourtism of Zoe

Karen shows favourtism of Coleen and Nicky seems to vote for whoever Karen does in the skate off ....
Pices-55
02-02-2009
Yes thats 2 weeks now that she has marked Zoe up,I dont really know why she has lowered herself to be on the show anyway,I listened to her in an interview on the radio before she was a judge and she was very scathing and bitchy about reality show contestants. I could not believe how stuck up she came across as,maybe thats because she had not been asked to judge at that point.Anyhow she soon changed her tune,dont like the woman personally.
yohinnchild
02-02-2009
Originally Posted by lil_miss_blonde:
“Tad harsh don't you think, the girl is trying her best and is better than quite a few in that competition.”

She may be trying;l but I don't like her - all mouth and no action like Gemma Bissix
FantasticMrFox
02-02-2009
I don't see why this is news to people.
Apart from Robin I've felt every series that most of the judges had a clear favourite.
lil_miss_blonde
02-02-2009
Originally Posted by yohinnchild:
“She may be trying;l but I don't like her - all mouth and no action like Gemma Bissix”

Fair enough everyones intitled to their opinion but surely hate is a tad far, that was just my point
syl
02-02-2009
Ruth's marking is very strange especially with Zoe and Melinda getting high marks. Zoe has terrible bent legs as has Melinda why would a dancer not comment on this. The only judge spot on last night was Nicki
abs2512again
02-02-2009
Originally Posted by Pawsa:
“I've mentioned this on another thread. Ruthie does seem to favour Zoe and also Colleen. I thought Ray was far better than Zoe, yet Ruthie only marked him .5 above her!”

Totally agree. And she was the one argueing with nicky last week. But she more or less done the same this week.
yohinnchild
02-02-2009
Originally Posted by syl:
“Ruth's marking is very strange especially with Zoe and Melinda getting high marks. Zoe has terrible bent legs as has Melinda why would a dancer not comment on this. The only judge spot on last night was Nicki”

Nicky?

Surely the most inconsistant judge of them all

The only judges that seem to mark fairly are Robin and Karen

Jason may be very harsh but is at least consistant across all the celebs that he marks - they may not be fair marks, but he is unfair to all the celebs

Ruthie is more right than Nicky who recently is all over the shop with his scores
ArtyAttack
02-02-2009
Ruthie annoys me with her overmarking of Zoe especially following her comments to Nick the week before. Donal isnt being favoured by any of the judges and is being undermarked.
ladygardener
02-02-2009
Quote:
“I dont really know why she has lowered herself to be on the show anyway,I listened to her in an interview on the radio before she was a judge and she was very scathing and bitchy about reality show contestants.”

She's a fading west end star, whose latest musical was a flop and she's got nothing better to do. Of course, the big fat fee she's getting paid has nothing to do with it.
syl
02-02-2009
Originally Posted by yohinnchild:
“Nicky?

Surely the most inconsistant judge of them all

The only judges that seem to mark fairly are Robin and Karen

Jason may be very harsh but is at least consistant across all the celebs that he marks - they may not be fair marks, but he is unfair to all the celebs

Ruthie is more right than Nicky who recently is all over the shop with his scores”

Yes Nicki can be inconsistant but last night I thought he was spot on each time.
Eviesmum
02-02-2009
Originally Posted by syl:
“Yes Nicki can be inconsistant but last night I thought he was spot on each time.”

I agree that Nicky's marking was 100% better than last week. I think all the judges undermarked Donal
memmh
02-02-2009
Originally Posted by Eviesmum:
“I think all the judges undermarked Donal”

I like Donal and want him to stay in as long as possible but, even though he recovered well, he did fall over and that's probably why his marks were kind of low.
number six
02-02-2009
I noticed last night that Zoe seemed to be Ruthie's favourite, how she could mark Zoe's performance higher than Jessica's I really don't know. I don't think she was watching the same routine as me!
memmh
02-02-2009
I liked it when Robin explained his score for Todd last night: 0.5 for the lunge, 0.5 for the spiral and 0.5 for not falling over.

It'd be good if Holly would ask the judges to explain their scoring once in a while, especially when a contestant would seem to have been over- or under-marked. Not just comment, actually explain.
reclinewithme
02-02-2009
It is annoying! I love Zoe, I think she's wonderful to watch, but couldn't say if she's that good or not; but I do fear Ruthie's blatant overmarking of her routines might turn people against her. Cut it out, Ruthie!
Eviesmum
02-02-2009
Originally Posted by memmh:
“I like Donal and want him to stay in as long as possible but, even though he recovered well, he did fall over and that's probably why his marks were kind of low.”

Technical content should account for some of the marks.

I mean last week Ruthie marked Zoe with a 4.5 even though she stumbled once and fluffed some other move up.

Its just not consistant enough for me.

I also think that Roxy gets a raw deal from the judges too
thenetworkbabe
02-02-2009
Originally Posted by Eviesmum:
“How can she be objective when she has clear favourites.

Surely that shouldn't be allowed.”

She has favourites because she is objective in so far as anyone in her role can be . Her job is to mark the performance/entertainment value not whether they are skating leaning to far forward backward or sideways. Her view is that Zoe and Colleen have better performance skills and Zoe is more entertaining to watch than Jessica. Thats her professional view. Like any critic people may disagree with her. I happen to think this time she is right and her marks and comments are pretty much in line with their other performance judge and Robin's order too.

The show's attraction to Zoe is also pretty obvious. After 4 weeks they still have no one getting close to making it a competition with Ray and Jessica isn't really closing the gap or that good a performer. They have been telling us that in everything we have seen and every mark given. Michael went out even after improving on marks, Ellery hasn't fulfilled his week one contender billing, the other males are going nowhere. None of the girls is near to Clare's standard of week one or Suzanne's this far in. If they are looking for someone to compete its going to have to be Melinda (inconsistent and sadly lacking voting support) Roxanne (further to go but possible) or Zoe (ahead at the moment) If I was running the show I would be desperate for Zoe to keep on getting better and give me a competition for people to watch. Robin's comments suggest he is fully aware of her importance and its far from just Ruthie who likes her.

Its no different than any educational system where any teacher should know which of their students is brilliant, which are stupid, which can improve and which are hopeless. The difference is that the DOI judging panel forces people to say what they think and doesn't allow the pretence that everyone is passing .Its hardly favouritism to tell the promising they are promising and to tell the weak that they are poor - its just the truth as she sees it. .
2811
02-02-2009
Originally Posted by yohinnchild:
“Ruthie seems to like Zoe and Melinda

Karen seems to big Coleen up at every opportunity as well

Jason did favour Ray; hates Roxanne (don't blame him)”

Who are Zoe and Roxanne???
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