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Old 06-02-2009, 17:07
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thanks to Caoimhghin and Savvy.

There is a couple of errors on row 139 of the table

Column 2 should be 10773 and column 4 should be 2 (not 1)
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Old 06-02-2009, 17:12
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thanks to Caoimhghin and Savvy.

There is a couple of errors on row 139 of the table

Column 2 should be 10773 and column 4 should be 2 (not 1)
Confirmed, that fixed it.

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Old 06-02-2009, 17:19
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If anyone wants to download rather than DIY

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http://www.4shared.com/file/84772397...dCheck003.html
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Old 06-02-2009, 17:20
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Graham,

Why does this happen? :-

Box 1 = 957 BBC1 NI (Chosen for "flexibility")
Box 2 = NONE
Can Watch = No (ts) channels

Change Box 2 to 102 BBC2
Can Watch = Lots of (ts) channels

If not recording on the Second Tuner, aren't all channels available as TS?

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Old 06-02-2009, 18:33
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Graham,

Why does this happen? :-

Box 1 = 957 BBC1 NI (Chosen for "flexibility")
Box 2 = NONE
Can Watch = No (ts) channels

Change Box 2 to 102 BBC2
Can Watch = Lots of (ts) channels

If not recording on the Second Tuner, aren't all channels available as TS?

Rgds.

Les.
It's because it was designed to display the limitations of recording when recording 2 and only rebuilds the list when 2 recordings are selected. If you leave the Default entry as NONE in box 2 without actually clicking on anything the textbox listindex returns -1 (nothing selected) so the code ignores the invalid return and therefore does not populate the watch list. Clicking on None gives a valid listindex so I guess you could start with every entry marked as TS. Apart from single cable mode if you are recording only one you of course have a full choice. I will make the mod to start with all entries marked TS and incorporate it in future releases

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Old 06-02-2009, 18:36
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It's because it was designed to display the limitations of recording when recording 2 and only rebuilds the list when 2 recordings are selected. If you leave the Default entry as NONE in box 2 without actually clicking on anything the textbox listindex returns -1 (nothing selected) so the code ignores the invalid return and therefore does not populate the watch list. Clicking on None gives a valid listindex so I guess you could start with every entry marked as TS. Apart from single cable mode if you are recording only one you of course have a full choice. I will make the mod to start with all entries marked TS and incorporate it in future releases
Yes, your explanations makes sense.

But, the mod will seem more consistent for casual users of it.

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Old 07-02-2009, 12:13
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RecordClash application now at version 4.



On Dual Cable option



Now correctly reports watch list when only 1 recording selected

Suggestion list now includes all alternatives instead of just the first (Improves chance of finding same programme on alternate channel)


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Old 17-02-2009, 13:36
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RecordCheck Version 005 available for download



http://www.4shared.com/file/88106369...dCheck005.html


Version005
Various cosmetic enhancements
TSR (Time Shift Or Record added to Dual)
Channel changes 17/02/2009
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Old 24-03-2009, 11:03
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Record check aplication now at version 6.



Todays channel changes plus larger windows for Single & Dual Cable options



http://www.4shared.com/file/94666753...dCheck006.html
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Old 24-03-2009, 11:14
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Record check aplication now at version 6.



Todays channel changes plus larger windows for Single & Dual Cable options



http://www.4shared.com/file/94666753...dCheck006.html
Thanks Graham.

A very useful application; for those newer members who haven't come across it yet, give it a go.

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Old 24-03-2009, 14:35
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There going to be a tip in here somewhere if I can explain it simply .

It's good to have an application that can be used for planning when you are away from the HDR and also to develop an instinctive understanding of how things work.

Personally, I don't tend to think in terms of channels. I chose programmes to record without paying much attention to the channel they are on. I find the HDR itself to be a pretty good clash detector. It also goes some way towards resolving clashes. But it sometimes needs help.

The problem with the HDR's clash resolution is that it only looks for alternative instances for the last programme you try to record, and it may not find any. The way around this is to cancel one of the other scheduled recordings and then try to set it up again. It will then look for alternative instances of that. If it doesn't find any, cancel the third one and try and set that up again. If that doesn't work, the clash is irresolvable and you'll have to cancel something. [If you leave your least wanted recording to last when attempting to reschedule, the process will be a little simpler as it will already be cancelled if you discover that the clash is irresolvable.]

It would be churlish to claim that not looking for alternative instances of programmes already scheduled for recording is a problem with the HDR as its alternative instance feature is one of the better things about it. Nevertheless, it would be very nice it could be enhanced to do this.
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Old 02-04-2009, 14:48
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Anyone who has already downloaded V006 I have found a small bug (channel scan misses last few channels in list). Bug now fixed and Teletext on 986 added.

Apols for inconvenience.

Graham
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Old 02-04-2009, 15:42
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Apols for inconvenience.

Graham
I should think so aswell considering what you charge for this program. It also took you almost a full day to update the channel list for teletext.......what kind of service is that!!
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Old 02-04-2009, 15:49
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I should think so aswell considering what you charge for this program. It also took you almost a full day to update the channel list for teletext.......what kind of service is that!!
Still not sure what went wrong, the formula in E1 developed a mind of it's own and returned the wrong line count. Noticed it when adding 986. Redoing the formula again returned the right answer. For reference it should read 149, (the last line with programme data)
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Old 02-04-2009, 15:58
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Still not sure what went wrong, the formula in E1 developed a mind of it's own and returned the wrong line count. Noticed it when adding 986. Redoing the formula again returned the right answer. For reference it should read 149, (the last line with programme data)
All double dutch to me Graham.....just glad you made it so easy to use, it's brill for those of us with only one feed
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Old 02-04-2009, 16:07
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All double dutch to me Graham.....just glad you made it so easy to use, it's brill for those of us with only one feed
I have an idea for the single cable option, thinking about adding a suggestion button such that when you choose a programme that has regional variations it writes all the possible combinations of what channels you can watch to a second worksheet by what choice of regional variation you make. (if that sounds like gobbedly gook - sorry ?) Do you think it might be usefull ?
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Old 02-04-2009, 16:27
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I have an idea for the single cable option, thinking about adding a suggestion button such that when you choose a programme that has regional variations it writes all the possible combinations of what channels you can watch to a second worksheet by what choice of regional variation you make. (if that sounds like gobbedly gook - sorry ?) Do you think it might be usefull ?
Yes definately. Now that users know they can get the updates with one feed, I think there are going to be more and more folks in flats willing to buy it. So that will help users who just wouldn't think about the other options available to them just by changing what region they watch
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Old 04-04-2009, 11:09
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new version of record check app

http://www.4shared.com/file/96689463...dCheck007.html

Note now includes alternate suggestions for single cable users, functionality for two cables unchanged from V006
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Old 14-04-2009, 15:20
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Calling users of my record check excel app. Channel 450 Men & Motors has today moved transponder. You can make the change yourself Cell B51 change from 10758 to 10891, Cell C51 change from V to H or simply download a new copy.

4shared.com - online file sharing and storage - download FoxsatRecordCheck007.xls
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Old 15-04-2009, 09:56
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http://www.4shared.com/file/98654028...dCheck008.html




Thanks to Barry at hummy.org



Transponder and LCN changes



120 S4C was 12421 H now 12129 V

202 S4C2 was 12421 H now 12129 V

504 B4U music was 12421 H now 12129 V



800 QVC, 801 Price drop and 802 Bid Up Foxsat now states frequency as 12031 not 12032



803 Pitch TV was 11223 V now 12690 V

804 Pitch World was 11223 V now 12690 V

806 TV Shop was 11223 V now 12523 V



Pitch World Lcn changed from 519 to 513.



Note

Anybody any ideas when the above channels moved transponders ?. Could it be the cause of recent ITV HD recording failures ?
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Old 16-04-2009, 12:15
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Major upgrade to dual cable functionality.

http://www.4shared.com/file/98838419...dCheck009.html

Suggestions button now labelled "Watch All Suggestions" as before indicates where a regional channel change will enable full time shift access to all channels.

Second button "Alternate Watch Options" identifies for all alternate recording options what channels will be viewable.
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Old 16-04-2009, 12:31
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Major upgrade to dual cable functionality.

http://www.4shared.com/file/98838419...dCheck009.html

Suggestions button now labelled "Watch All Suggestions" as before indicates where a regional channel change will enable full time shift access to all channels.

Second button "Alternate Watch Options" identifies for all alternate recording options what channels will be viewable.
Thanks Graham, but that link seems to be broken. I worked it out to be Here

Rgds.

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Old 16-04-2009, 12:40
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Thanks Graham, but that link seems to be broken. I worked it out to be Here

Rgds.

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Thanks Les, no idea why that happened
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Old 16-04-2009, 12:53
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Graham,

I'm not sure I'm getting the new option.

If I choose First Recording = 101 BBC1, and Second Recording = 102 BBC2, and click on Alternate Watch Option button, I get the new Two Cables Suggestion window up. It has all the BBC1 variants in the Recording One scrollable box, but lots of duplications in the Recording 2 box & this is non-scrollable.

Selecting one of the first column BBC1 variants does give different watcheable channels in the third column, but you cannot select any of the channels in the second column.

Also, there appears to be some incomplete instructional text "Click and Then", at the bottom of the new window.

Rgds.

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Old 16-04-2009, 13:10
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Graham,

I'm not sure I'm getting the new option.

If I choose First Recording = 101 BBC1, and Second Recording = 102 BBC2, and click on Alternate Watch Option button, I get the new Two Cables Suggestion window up. It has all the BBC1 variants in the Recording One scrollable box, but lots of duplications in the Recording 2 box & this is non-scrollable.

Selecting one of the first column BBC1 variants does give different watcheable channels in the third column, but you cannot select any of the channels in the second column.

Also, there appears to be some incomplete instructional text "Click and Then", at the bottom of the new window.

Rgds.

Les.
Hi Les, your screen must have a little more overscan than mine. It says click and scroll. Only the first list is clickable.

If you look carefully the 2 lists should have every possible combination of BBC1 and BBC2 clicking on any gives the watchable channels for that combination. Once clicked you can scroll up and down.

To adjust the form and listbox sizes for your display.

Load the spreadsheet (don't press any buttons)

Choose Tools/Macro/Visual Basic Editor

In the project box top left open the forms entry

Double Click the TwoCablesSuggestion Form. You can resize the individual items by clicking them and pulling the handles.

Save the changes, you should (hopefully be able to see the whole form)

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