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roger_50
19-02-2016
Originally Posted by Boz_Lowdownl:
“She did the same again today in the last numbers round!! Just had to do one correction to what the contestant did to get the answer, instead she totally ignored it (even when the contestant himself had spotted his error) and went off on her own complicated way. She may be good at sums but she's not great as a TV presenter.”

Again though, like before, you're assuming that she *should* always finish up what the contestant has started - as if there's only one correct way a countdown presenter must perform the task.

And again, as before, I disagree. I'm absolutely fine with her going off on more complex tangents and don't see anything wrong with it at all.
Boz_Lowdownl
19-02-2016
Originally Posted by roger_50:
“Again though, like before, you're assuming that she *should* always finish up what the contestant has started - as if there's only one correct way a countdown presenter must perform the task.

And again, as before, I disagree. I'm absolutely fine with her going off on more complex tangents and don't see anything wrong with it at all.”

That's fine, that's your opinion. I completely disagree and think that she should react and interact with the contestants, that's much more natural and better television. And especially yesterday when the contestant had realised his mistake and she still completely ignored him and went off in her own little world. Very poor.
roger_50
19-02-2016
Originally Posted by Boz_Lowdownl:
“That's fine, that's your opinion. I completely disagree and think that she should react and interact with the contestants, that's much more natural and better television. And especially yesterday when the contestant had realised his mistake and she still completely ignored him and went off in her own little world. Very poor.”

Yeah, there's no reasoning behind that either way tbh. It's just as natural and as good television for her to do it the way she currently does it. It's an arbitrary opinion either way.

But to then go on and call it 'very poor' is taking it way too far when it's simply a subjective take on how things are done. Neither is right or wrong.

To accuse her of 'ignoring' the contestant is futile when her chosen procedure is to fulfil an alternative solution whenever possible. It doesn't even become a question of her ignoring anyone.
Mudbox
19-02-2016
maybe Boz just doesn't like old Rachel. Seems like a lot of fuss about nothing otherwise.
Boz_Lowdownl
20-02-2016
Originally Posted by roger_50:
“Yeah, there's no reasoning behind that either way tbh. It's just as natural and as good television for her to do it the way she currently does it. It's an arbitrary opinion either way.

But to then go on and call it 'very poor' is taking it way too far when it's simply a subjective take on how things are done. Neither is right or wrong.

To accuse her of 'ignoring' the contestant is futile when her chosen procedure is to fulfil an alternative solution whenever possible. It doesn't even become a question of her ignoring anyone.”

No it's not an arbitrary opinion, it's fact. Ignoring someone is indeed very poor, rude even. It's not a question of doing her "chosen procedure" but of responding to the situation in front of her. But for whatever reason you choose to disagree, so I'll leave it there.
Boz_Lowdownl
20-02-2016
Originally Posted by Mudbox:
“maybe Boz just doesn't like old Rachel. Seems like a lot of fuss about nothing otherwise.”

No, I like Rachel a lot. It's just that she was obviously employed for her arithmetic skills not her television presenter skills.
roger_50
20-02-2016
Originally Posted by Boz_Lowdownl:
“No it's not an arbitrary opinion, it's fact. Ignoring someone is indeed very poor, rude even. It's not a question of doing her "chosen procedure" but of responding to the situation in front of her. But for whatever reason you choose to disagree, so I'll leave it there.”

It's not a fact. I disagree that she's ignoring the contestant, for the reasons already stated.

Therefore it's a matter of opinion.
Jenny_Sawyer
23-02-2016
I don't know if any of you Countdown fans watch Take Me Out, but if you do then you will have recognised the hypnotist guy from yesterday.
valkay
23-02-2016
This Paul guy is getting annoying now with all his obscure words, as Julie said, does he read the dictionary at bedtime.? He does seem to be normal though and not one of the usual savants.
exstoker84
25-02-2016
First time I've watched in a while but man that Paul was so annoying! I love it when they get these outstanding contestants on but my god he's annoying! He literally jumped out of his seat when when the conundrum came up!
Jenny_Sawyer
25-02-2016
I have never heard the word indoor used - only ever indoors - it would have been nice if Susie could have clarified why it was allowed . I got shampooed btw .
bart4858
25-02-2016
Originally Posted by Jenny_Sawyer:
“I have never heard the word indoor used - only ever indoors - it would have been nice if Susie could have clarified why it was allowed .”

What's wrong with 'indoor'? You've never heard of an indoor tennis match?
davads
25-02-2016
Originally Posted by bart4858:
“What's wrong with 'indoor'? You've never heard of an indoor tennis match?”

Indoor fireworks is what springs to mind for me
bobcar
25-02-2016
Originally Posted by Jenny_Sawyer:
“I have never heard the word indoor used - only ever indoors - it would have been nice if Susie could have clarified why it was allowed . I got shampooed btw .”

Nothing wrong with indoor and no reason to query it. From Oxford dictionaries

Quote:
“Situated, conducted, or used within a building or under cover: indoor sports”

Ex Pat
25-02-2016
Originally Posted by roger_50:
“It's not a fact. I disagree that she's ignoring the contestant, for the reasons already stated.

Therefore it's a matter of opinion.”

Interestingly (to me anyway), yesterday she pointed out how one contestant , who was one away I think, could have got the correct figure with the remaining numbers.
Jenny_Sawyer
26-02-2016
Originally Posted by bart4858:
“What's wrong with 'indoor'? You've never heard of an indoor tennis match?”

Oh yes.
Jenny_Sawyer
26-02-2016
Originally Posted by Boz_Lowdownl:
“No, I like Rachel a lot. It's just that she was obviously employed for her arithmetic skills not her television presenter skills.”

She's not the presenter & nor is Susie - Nick Hewer is the show's presenter.
Jenny_Sawyer
26-02-2016
Originally Posted by Boz_Lowdownl:
“No, I like Rachel a lot. It's just that she was obviously employed for her arithmetic skills not her television presenter skills.”

and because she's pretty.....
Boz_Lowdownl
26-02-2016
Originally Posted by Ex Pat:
“Interestingly (to me anyway), yesterday she pointed out how one contestant , who was one away I think, could have got the correct figure with the remaining numbers.”

Exactly, which gives credence to the theory that when she didn't do this twice recently, it was because she missed it not because she deliberately chose a more complicated way.
Boz_Lowdownl
26-02-2016
Originally Posted by Jenny_Sawyer:
“She's not the presenter & nor is Susie - Nick Hewer is the show's presenter.”

A person in her job still requires TV presenting skills whether or not she is the official "presenter" so this is irrelevant to the point I was making. But whether or not she is a presenter is open to interpretation, the titles read "Presented by Nick Hewer With Rachel Riley And Susie Dent".
roger_50
26-02-2016
Originally Posted by Boz_Lowdownl:
“Exactly, which gives credence to the theory that when she didn't do this twice recently, it was because she missed it not because she deliberately chose a more complicated way.”

Or alternatively, she didn't miss those two recently and simply wanted to do her alternative, more complex solutions on those occasions.

Like I said a page or two back, there's endless examples of her finishing contestant's sums and endless examples of her doing her own, usually more complex solutions. When she makes that choice in the moment, it's not a question of it being the right or wrong thing to do - or a question of ignoring a contestant.
Boz_Lowdownl
26-02-2016
Originally Posted by roger_50:
“Or alternatively, she didn't miss those two recently and simply wanted to do her alternative, more complex solutions on those occasions.

Like I said a page or two back, there's endless examples of her finishing contestant's sums and endless examples of her doing her own, usually more complex solutions. When she makes that choice in the moment, it's not a question of it being the right or wrong thing to do - or a question of ignoring a contestant.”

Yes of course she didn't miss them and of course she just wanted to show off.........
roger_50
26-02-2016
Well, if you're just going to be sarcastic about it I guess that shows your maturity.

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There's possibly also the concept of her needing/wanting to spend a certain chunk of each episode doing sums in full view. So perhaps, say in an episode where the contestants have got the solution several times, she may feel the audience would like a complex solution by her from scratch.

Whether you like it or not, it's just as valid an opinion to say she's choosing to do as she pleases and it's absolutely fine, no matter how much schoolboy sarcasm you want to respond with.
Boz_Lowdownl
26-02-2016
Originally Posted by roger_50:
“Well, if you're just going to be sarcastic about it I guess that shows your maturity.

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There's possibly also the concept of her needing/wanting to spend a certain chunk of each episode doing sums in full view. So perhaps, say in an episode where the contestants have got the solution several times, she may feel the audience would like a complex solution by her from scratch.

Whether you like it or not, it's just as valid an opinion to say she's choosing to do as she pleases and it's absolutely fine, no matter how much schoolboy sarcasm you want to respond with.”

It's not a question of schoolboy sarcasm, it's just an attempt to get through to you as other methods clearly weren't working. If you want to believe that Rachel deliberately chooses to show off and deliberately misses easy options then that's up to you, but it is clearly flying in the face of the reality the rest of us clearly see on screen.
Randysback
26-02-2016
Went to the filming last night of 8 out of 10 Cats does Countdown. Rachel wasn`t there for the first time EVER... Dam Neither was Sean.

The whole cast were hilarious and very professional. But Suzie contributed nothing. She`s far too shy for TV and just looked uncomfortable
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