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toastie15 · 12-02-2009, 18:17

Just read that pioneer are to stop making flat screen tv's

skinj · 12-02-2009, 19:41

yup
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle5715141.ece

AlanO · 12-02-2009, 19:50

Not totally surprising - same issue as in the motor industry, namely massive overcapacity driving down costs.

Also for Pioneer it wasn't a 'core' product range for their strategy.

Agree with the comments of another poster - who next ?

JDW · 14-02-2009, 22:02

beginning of the end for plasma TV's

skinj · 14-02-2009, 22:19

just like cd-mp3 we go backwards plasma-lcd!!!

mossy2103 · 15-02-2009, 12:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDW

beginning of the end for plasma TV's

At the risk of engaging in another rather boring LCD vs plasma contest, there is no evidence at all that it is as you state, especially as plasmas are well-served by other large brand manufacturers.

And in truth, there is room for BOTH technologies in the market, regardless as to what preferences people have.

Nigel Goodwin · 15-02-2009, 13:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by mossy2103

At the risk of engaging in another rather boring LCD vs plasma contest, there is no evidence at all that it is as you state, especially as plasmas are well-served by other large brand manufacturers.

I don't know about 'no evidence', manufacturers have been dropping Plasma over tha last few years, and it shows no sign of stopping - there are only a few left now.

As I see it Plasma sets probably cost MORE to manufacture than LCD, yet Plasma sets sell for LESS than LCD sets - the maths is pretty simple, how long are manufacturers going to subsidise Plasma sets?.

mossy2103 · 15-02-2009, 17:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

As I see it Plasma sets probably cost MORE to manufacture than LCD, yet Plasma sets sell for LESS than LCD sets - the maths is pretty simple, how long are manufacturers going to subsidise Plasma sets?.

I gather that you are connected with retail, so I will need to take your word for that, however it was not my experience when I was looking around for a plasma in the weeks before Christmas (certain massive discounts on a couple of sets from a number of online retailers excepted though).

12-02-2009, 18:17	#1
toastie15 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: kent Posts: 2,427	pioneer Just read that pioneer are to stop making flat screen tv's

12-02-2009, 19:41	#2
skinj Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 3,206	yup http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle5715141.ece

12-02-2009, 19:50	#3
AlanO Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,902	Not totally surprising - same issue as in the motor industry, namely massive overcapacity driving down costs. Also for Pioneer it wasn't a 'core' product range for their strategy. Agree with the comments of another poster - who next ?

14-02-2009, 22:02	#4
JDW Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 408	beginning of the end for plasma TV's

14-02-2009, 22:19	#5
skinj Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 3,206	just like cd-mp3 we go backwards plasma-lcd!!!

15-02-2009, 12:34	#6
mossy2103 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 68,710	Quote: Originally Posted by JDW beginning of the end for plasma TV's At the risk of engaging in another rather boring LCD vs plasma contest, there is no evidence at all that it is as you state, especially as plasmas are well-served by other large brand manufacturers. And in truth, there is room for BOTH technologies in the market, regardless as to what preferences people have.

15-02-2009, 13:36	#7
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by mossy2103 At the risk of engaging in another rather boring LCD vs plasma contest, there is no evidence at all that it is as you state, especially as plasmas are well-served by other large brand manufacturers. I don't know about 'no evidence', manufacturers have been dropping Plasma over tha last few years, and it shows no sign of stopping - there are only a few left now. As I see it Plasma sets probably cost MORE to manufacture than LCD, yet Plasma sets sell for LESS than LCD sets - the maths is pretty simple, how long are manufacturers going to subsidise Plasma sets?.

15-02-2009, 17:00	#8
mossy2103 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 68,710	Quote: Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin As I see it Plasma sets probably cost MORE to manufacture than LCD, yet Plasma sets sell for LESS than LCD sets - the maths is pretty simple, how long are manufacturers going to subsidise Plasma sets?. I gather that you are connected with retail, so I will need to take your word for that, however it was not my experience when I was looking around for a plasma in the weeks before Christmas (certain massive discounts on a couple of sets from a number of online retailers excepted though).

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