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'Welsh singer' Duffy
Why are all the media referring to her as "Welsh singer" Duffy? Why not "English band" Coldplay?
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I think it should be British singer Duffy and British band Coldplay. Personally, I hate Duffy and her music and Coldplay is my favourite band. Got all their records (CD's), none of Duffy's she gets up my nose. Can't believe that Coldplay didn't win a single Brit, oh well, who has the world's biggest selling record hmm Viva la Vida, Coldplay and whats eh Rockferry well its 5th I believe.
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I think it should be British singer Duffy and British band Coldplay. Personally, I hate Duffy and her music and Coldplay is my favourite band. Got all their records (CD's), none of Duffy's she gets up my nose. Can't believe that Coldplay didn't win a single Brit, oh well, who has the world's biggest selling record hmm Viva la Vida, Coldplay and whats eh Rockferry well its 5th I believe.
Not bitter then?
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Also it's always 'Scottish band' Snow Patrol yet never 'English band' Oasis....
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Also it's always 'Scottish band' Snow Patrol yet never 'English band' Oasis....
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think it's recent thing though..I can never remember hearing simple minds being called the 'scottish group' they always say about oasis and manchester though
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Also it's always 'Scottish band' Snow Patrol yet never 'English band' Oasis....
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No one ever says that Oasis is English because the Gallagher brothers identify as British, Irish and/or Mancunian, almost never English. Andy Bell is Welsh anyway.
"Welsh rockers" Stereophonics but never "English popstars" Girls Aloud. |
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The point I'm making is Welsh, Scottish or any other nationality bands are identified as such, but English bands never are.
"Welsh rockers" Stereophonics but never "English popstars" Girls Aloud. Look at the BBC. They make programmes for BBC Scotland, BBC Wales and BBC Northern Ireland, but when do they make programmes for BBC England? Also, you can't refer to Girls Aloud as "English popstars" because Nadine Coyle is Irish. |
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There's a wee joke that when Andy Murray is winning he's British, and when he's losing he's Scottish
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The reason is that Welsh, Scottish and Irish have a national identity whereas the English don't! You're too regionalised.
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Also, you can't refer to Girls Aloud as "English popstars" because Nadine Coyle is Irish.
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I think the most realistic answer is that because most of the major media is based in England, they look at it from that respect, and therefore wouldnt say English band Coldplay because they are in England.
Of course, you also sometimes get Scouse band X and Geordie singer Y, so it might just be regionalised when it can be. |
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It makes sense to say 'Welsh singer' because a) it's a selling point, b) Welsh people are proud of coming from Wales.
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On a more important note, Duffy sounds like a tiny baby lamb going "baaaa aa aaa h"
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I think the media points out the nationalities just to start fights in here
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On a more important note, Duffy sounds like a tiny baby lamb going "baaaa aa aaa h"
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Not bitter then?
![]() ![]() No, its just I prefer Coldplay to Duffy, don't know why, I don't like her music but everyone is entitled to their own opinion I suppose.
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Because the population of England make up 90% of the UK and so it's not as big as a selling point as being from Wales/Scotland.
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Because the population of England make up 90% of the UK and so it's not as big as a selling point as being from Wales/Scotland.
I've noticed that English people tend to identify themselves by region first, country second. Mancs, Scousers, Geordies etc. Whereas we Welsh are just Welsh. |
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Yep. Wales has a population of 3 million, which is less than half of London's population (7.5m)
I've noticed that English people tend to identify themselves by region first, country second. Mancs, Scousers, Geordies etc. Whereas we Welsh are just Welsh. |
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The thing is you're talking about the English based media. With the English media the assumption is that everyone mentioned is English unless otherwise identified. So no need to say the English singer Paul Weller ..... that's assumed. Duffy isn't English so she is tagged as Welsh.
The French and German press would certainly identify Weller as English but there really is no need to do so in the English papers. |
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With the English media the assumption is that everyone mentioned is English unless otherwise identified.
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Pretty elitist then.
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But I'm sure that bands like Coldplay are identified as being English in the American media.
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Even the Welsh/Scottish/N Irish ones? Them crazy yanks hey....
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