OK, she should be impartial as a judge, and calling Roxanne 'Zoe' was just adding insult to injury - but Roxy doesn't do it for me either, so I didn't feel particularly offended by Ruthie's comment.

Anyone else agree, regardless of whether it should/shouldn't have been said?

No, think she is very watchable.

I think it is extremely unprofessional of a JUDGE to say that someone is not doing it for them. I can understand if forum members say it, but not a judge who should give someone in a competition something to work on. Her slip of the tongue does not really matter, but it clearly shows who was on her mind and who she really favours.

Even Jason presented more constructive criticism yesterday.

She has after all in the past said "You DO it for me Zoe"...

Well I think Ruthie has got somethiing, Roxy don't do it for me either I just watch Daniel.

Agreed and if the performer isn't communicating, then the judge is quite entitled to say so I think.

Ruthie is there to mainly judge on performance and with Roxy, its flat and soulless.

Roxanne 'doesn't do it for me', but if I were a judge on DOI I would never say that out loud and keep my comments relevant and professional.

No I didn't agree with Ruthie purely because shes there to judge the performances, whether Roxy 'does it' for her or not, shes basically scoring her on how much she likes her

Completely agreed with Ruthie - Roxy is a gobby chav who "doesn't do it" for me either.

Sorry, can't agree, Roxy's not the best but she's not bad, either.

Not for the first time during DOI, I find myself agreeing with you LL!

Whilst Ruthie could have articulated her criticisms a little better, she summed up how I feel about Roxy - she simply doesn't flick my switch.

You say Roxanne is a chav and Sharon is a chav can I therefor have your definition of a chav as I am dying to see it.

I have to say i don't agree totally with Ruthie. It was Roxy's best skate and her best performance, it did do something for me that she hasn't done before but she still wasn't doing it completely for me.

Zoe doesn't do it for me either though, although it was doing something for me at the beginning, i hate it when she brings out that huge grin. I quite liked her and the grin before the series but i have grown to detest it now.

I have to say for me, its really hard to be moved by performances because i have to believe it. I believe it with T&D but with all the other skaters even when the pros dance with their pro partners, i don't feel it, i don't believe it.

As a judge, i think she should say it because it is something to work on but it is very hard to do it for everyone.

Ruthie hit the nail on the head for once re Roxanne.
I think she's only remained in because people are supporting Daniel.

Well she is suppossed to be marking the performance as a judge. Now interpretation may be an element of the marking and is subjective but that would be a small element of the marking. Roxxie is not the best but she gave a prety good performance and this week she was up with the better performers. For Ruthie to just say "You don't do it for me" is not the way a judge should act.

Jason may give out some caustic comments but he does also give what in his review what he sees as the good and bad points he does not just say "you dont do it for me.

One thought here is Ruthie Gay ? Perhaps that what she means

So what was wrong with her performance ?

Quite what has that do do with how they mark her performance. If someone is somehow declared a chav by some self appointed person does that auomtically reduce your score by two or three points

too showy and desperate for me. Like Ruthie felt - Roxy just doesn't do it for me.

How on earth is she too showy, she is certainly not desperate. She wants to do well. Whats wrong with that. In past weeks she has not been to good but this week she pulled it off with a great performance

I agree Buddy. Ruthie gave nothing for Roxanne to work with it was such a pointless comment. In comparison it made Jason's "Cabbage Patch Doll" remark seem constructive.

Ruthie is there to comment on artistic impression, since when does 'you don't do it for me'
constitute positive criticism? I'm really starting to dislike this woman.

am I not allowed my opinion?

too showy because she wanted to do the headbanger again - which she probably thinks look good - therefore deperate to gain votes by doing something dangerous.

Jasons comment was though contructive. What it was meant to convey was that she was limp and flopy in the lift and that was what she needed to work on and this week I think she succed she was good in all the lifts and held her body correctly in the lifts rather then looking like a rag doll being thrown around.

Ruthie makes sense if you interpret her to mean that she doesn't find Roxy convincing and as she's therefore disjointed she doesn't sell a complete act. You could add that Roxy made herself the problem this week by trying to act someone else when everyone else was acting themselves. You might even add that its fairer to expect an actress to be able to act han it is a presenter or singer. Roxy's also not pulling her more dramatic moves off as well as she needs to.

The comparison would work with Zoe who presents a story and has a bit of drama that comes off and Jessica who is getting there with less of the drama.

The argument works with Colleen to the extent that she is consistent and presents a story. There's no great variation in the standard within Colleen's performances so they hang together and don't jar.

I would never give Colleen more than Roxy though as Colleen's story is the same every week and its very very simple as stories go.Its easy to be consistent when you don't do much. Ruthie probably also ought to give Roxy more credit for trying the new and the dangerous and some more still for trying to do a routine and story thats far far more complex than what Colleen is walking through.

I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking that Zoe is utterly mediocre. She could try and skate by herself for a start.