HELP How do I get footage of the tv using a DV camera

DEADLY_17 · 25-02-2009, 22:26

I really need help as I want to get footage of someone playing a video game but is there a way to film it without it getting black lines. As I'm doing a documentary for my media course.

I will be using finalcut express to edit.
Please help! Thanks

Nigel Goodwin · 26-02-2009, 09:50

Don't use a CRT TV - if you use Plasma or LCD you don't get any such lines, as they don't scan like a CRT does.

DEADLY_17 · 26-02-2009, 10:47

Yeah but how am I going to
Play a game with the camera in front of the tv? As I want to film bits of the game I have played. Is there a wire you use or something

speigel · 26-02-2009, 10:53

you need to slow the shutter speed down on the camera to 25 frames a second (I think), the same as the TV. thenn the lines will disappear.

Nigel Goodwin · 26-02-2009, 11:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEADLY_17

Yeah but how am I going to
Play a game with the camera in front of the tv? As I want to film bits of the game I have played. Is there a wire you use or something

Only if your DV camera will accept a line input, most don't.

Spruce · 26-02-2009, 11:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

Only if your DV camera will accept a line input, most don't.

My Canon MV600i will, if you really need to record the footage maybe having a look at ebay will help.

Don't know of any prices but my camcorder is 5-years-old.

kempshott · 26-02-2009, 12:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

Only if your DV camera will accept a line input, most don't.

Most sold in Europe don't because then they would be classed as VCRs which carry extra import duty.

Usually the ability is present but disabled - the socket is hidden and you'll need to tweak an internal setting. Google "dv-in enabler".

edgexedge · 26-02-2009, 20:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEADLY_17

Yeah but how am I going to
Play a game with the camera in front of the tv? As I want to film bits of the game I have played. Is there a wire you use or something

its quite simple

use an lcd screen
place camera in front of screen
set lens to widest, then position camera so that all your filming is the screen
press record on the parts you want to record

youll still be able to see round the camera to actually see what your playing

DEADLY_17 · 27-02-2009, 01:31

Oh ok thanks. My college cameras are Cannon make.

Do you know how to import YouTube videos into finalcut express?

llandudnoandy · 27-02-2009, 10:49

either visual hub to convert, or find one of the youtube downloading sites, and convert to .MOV

DEADLY_17 · 27-02-2009, 12:36

Ok thanks

KenSevens · 28-02-2009, 14:10

I use my DV camcorder to record footage to my computer all the time. However, I don't film the TV to do it though as this is a horrible way of doing it and you end up with naff results. I usually record stuff from my freeview box.

I bought a Scart adapter with a signal in/out switch like this one:

http://medda86.com/tv/scart-adapter.jpg

That goes into the back of my freeview box. Then, I connect an S-Video cable from the freeview box into my canon DV camera, and I connect the red/white audio plugs up using the AV cable that came with my camcorder. That one looks something like this:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA280_.jpg

You can use the yellow composite cable instead of using the S-Video cable, but I don't use it, because S-Video gives you a far better picture.

In the menu settings on the camcorder, there is a setting called AV>DV (I think that's what it's called). This pushes the AV content coming into the camcorder on to the camcorder screen. Sorted. You can then either record the footage onto a DV tape, OR you can connect a DV firewire cable up to your mac and then fire up a neat little application called Vidi, which you can download here:

http://www.mitzpettel.com/software/vidi.php

Bingo. The footage from my freeview box is on my Mac. I can run it full screen, or I can record it from Vidi, which records your footage in the .dv format. It even does timer recordings, so I can create a record schedule to record stuff when I'm out. Neat!!

But this isn't what you want. You want to be able to record your video games console. As you don't have the relevant plugs on the back of your video games console, you have to buy a coupler from an electronics store, which looks like this:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA280_.jpg

Plug your composite and audio cables into the coupler, and you can create a connection between your games console and your camcorder. You're good to go. What you have to remember when doing this though, is Vidi lags when watching footage through it, by a couple of milliseconds, so if you're going to play a game and record it, it's best to play it using the screen on your camcorder. If you want an even better picture, buy an S-Video cable for your console and use an S-Video coupler like the one here:

http://www.tvcables.co.uk/images/ite...eo-coupler.jpg

Hope this helps.

DEADLY_17 · 02-03-2009, 13:52

is the software to convert the youtube videos free? this is so confusing for me lol. is there a step by step guide that i can follow so i get it right?

KenSevens · 02-03-2009, 23:55

Try using an app called TubeTV.

http://www.chimoosoft.com/products/tubetv/

25-02-2009, 22:26	#1
DEADLY_17 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London Posts: 9,190	HELP How do I get footage of the tv using a DV camera I really need help as I want to get footage of someone playing a video game but is there a way to film it without it getting black lines. As I'm doing a documentary for my media course. I will be using finalcut express to edit. Please help! Thanks

26-02-2009, 09:50	#2
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Don't use a CRT TV - if you use Plasma or LCD you don't get any such lines, as they don't scan like a CRT does.

26-02-2009, 10:47	#3
DEADLY_17 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London Posts: 9,190	Yeah but how am I going to Play a game with the camera in front of the tv? As I want to film bits of the game I have played. Is there a wire you use or something

26-02-2009, 10:53	#4
speigel Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,560	you need to slow the shutter speed down on the camera to 25 frames a second (I think), the same as the TV. thenn the lines will disappear.

26-02-2009, 11:02	#5
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by DEADLY_17 Yeah but how am I going to Play a game with the camera in front of the tv? As I want to film bits of the game I have played. Is there a wire you use or something Only if your DV camera will accept a line input, most don't.

26-02-2009, 11:13	#6
Spruce Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Suffolk Posts: 960	Quote: Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin Only if your DV camera will accept a line input, most don't. My Canon MV600i will, if you really need to record the footage maybe having a look at ebay will help. Don't know of any prices but my camcorder is 5-years-old.

26-02-2009, 12:10	#7
kempshott Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,506	Quote: Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin Only if your DV camera will accept a line input, most don't. Most sold in Europe don't because then they would be classed as VCRs which carry extra import duty. Usually the ability is present but disabled - the socket is hidden and you'll need to tweak an internal setting. Google "dv-in enabler".

26-02-2009, 20:45	#8
edgexedge Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,881	Quote: Originally Posted by DEADLY_17 Yeah but how am I going to Play a game with the camera in front of the tv? As I want to film bits of the game I have played. Is there a wire you use or something its quite simple use an lcd screen place camera in front of screen set lens to widest, then position camera so that all your filming is the screen press record on the parts you want to record youll still be able to see round the camera to actually see what your playing

27-02-2009, 01:31	#9
DEADLY_17 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London Posts: 9,190	Oh ok thanks. My college cameras are Cannon make. Do you know how to import YouTube videos into finalcut express?

27-02-2009, 10:49	#10
llandudnoandy Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Stoke-On-Trent, Llandudno Posts: 57	either visual hub to convert, or find one of the youtube downloading sites, and convert to .MOV

27-02-2009, 12:36	#11
DEADLY_17 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London Posts: 9,190	Ok thanks

28-02-2009, 14:10	#12
KenSevens Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 64	I use my DV camcorder to record footage to my computer all the time. However, I don't film the TV to do it though as this is a horrible way of doing it and you end up with naff results. I usually record stuff from my freeview box. I bought a Scart adapter with a signal in/out switch like this one: http://medda86.com/tv/scart-adapter.jpg That goes into the back of my freeview box. Then, I connect an S-Video cable from the freeview box into my canon DV camera, and I connect the red/white audio plugs up using the AV cable that came with my camcorder. That one looks something like this: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA280_.jpg You can use the yellow composite cable instead of using the S-Video cable, but I don't use it, because S-Video gives you a far better picture. In the menu settings on the camcorder, there is a setting called AV>DV (I think that's what it's called). This pushes the AV content coming into the camcorder on to the camcorder screen. Sorted. You can then either record the footage onto a DV tape, OR you can connect a DV firewire cable up to your mac and then fire up a neat little application called Vidi, which you can download here: http://www.mitzpettel.com/software/vidi.php Bingo. The footage from my freeview box is on my Mac. I can run it full screen, or I can record it from Vidi, which records your footage in the .dv format. It even does timer recordings, so I can create a record schedule to record stuff when I'm out. Neat!! But this isn't what you want. You want to be able to record your video games console. As you don't have the relevant plugs on the back of your video games console, you have to buy a coupler from an electronics store, which looks like this: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA280_.jpg Plug your composite and audio cables into the coupler, and you can create a connection between your games console and your camcorder. You're good to go. What you have to remember when doing this though, is Vidi lags when watching footage through it, by a couple of milliseconds, so if you're going to play a game and record it, it's best to play it using the screen on your camcorder. If you want an even better picture, buy an S-Video cable for your console and use an S-Video coupler like the one here: http://www.tvcables.co.uk/images/ite...eo-coupler.jpg Hope this helps.

02-03-2009, 13:52	#13
DEADLY_17 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London Posts: 9,190	is the software to convert the youtube videos free? this is so confusing for me lol. is there a step by step guide that i can follow so i get it right?

02-03-2009, 23:55	#14
KenSevens Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 64	Try using an app called TubeTV. http://www.chimoosoft.com/products/tubetv/

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