I agree with that. I also think that Adam will learn a lot from the mentors on the show.

Hi, yes agree with you there, not as good as last year, but maybe the idea is to down grade. Or they choose someone then coach them to sing better after they have won.

It is a big come down from last year, last year I had about 8 favourites in the top 10

Yeah hi babysweet, and I bet Paris wouldn't mind being sandwiched. lol! Wasn't an outstanding show tonight really, but Norman gave us a lot of fun which made the difference, imo.

Hmmm. I don't think much of anyone (so far) tonight

It's not a contradiction. You a totally missing the point that is being made. There is no doubt that Adam in conveying. But the point is he seems to be acting it more than feeling it.
Acting is to pretend in a convincing way.
If you feel a song in your heart and releate to the emotions in it, you don't have to pretend or fake that feeling. You convey from your soul you don't act it in a stagey way.

The same way you can tell when people are acting on a soap opera from real life.

Yeah, I totally agree with the bolded bit. He's undoubtedly a really good singer, but when I watch him I feel like that's what's being hammered home - as if he's blitzing the high notes for no other reason than to show us he can do it, not because it's supposed to convey anything in particular.

Maybe that's OK in the auditions, but it'll be interesting to see how he evolves once in the final 12 and whether he connects with the songs, or whether it becomes a bit samey if every song gets the same treatment ('Hey, look how incredible my range is! Aren't I just awesome?!' ).

It's Television Without Pity - they have an American Idol forum. I just discovered it the other day and it's pretty cool, actually - like an uber-cynical and wordy DS. Generally they're anti-Gokey and pro-Adam (like, really anti-Gokey. He's mostly known as Deadwife Danny), but some posters had a few reservations about Adam.

I've heard a more controlled range than he's done, and easier on the ear. I felt those last notes were forced and shrieky and totally unnecessary, and hope he doesn't carry on doing same in every song, and can't believe the judges would be happy to get their ears blasted either.

I totally agree Dix, he would need to tone down somewhat otherwise along the same lines as Norman Gentle, he could get tiresome very quickly. The over the top squealing is good for one song here and there but every week, geez my ears may start to bleed!

I can't argue with that.

What I will say is that Adam was the only one so far who has looked comfortable up there and actually performed rather than just sung. The fact that he has the biggest range of all the contestants and the most consistent voice (not 100% but who is?) is something that was known before tonight's show.

Sorry but I fail to see what the fuss is about Danny Gokey. His performance last week was less than average and I lost count of the missed notes but the judges didn't mention it. To think people here were saying Daniel on XF was only put through because of his dead wife sob story yet compared to this guy, he was Pavarotti.

It's also funny to see how the Adam detractors, some of who are the same people who criticise Kara, are clutching onto Kara's dumb criticism for the sake of it at his audition. The whole "doesn't connect with the song" line seems to be the current throwaway favourite and is wearing so thin. It's even infiltrating SCD and DOI. How ridiculous.


Are you trying to say that every singer should need to relate to a song to perform it properly? Should they have to experience everything they sing about in order to do so? If that was the case there would be very few singers singing very few songs.

Oh by far National park, from all the contestants that have performed so far, Adam has easily got the biggest vocal range, but as per my previous post, it could be more of a hindrance than a help if he continues to use the whole range in all songs. I guess we will have to wait and see if this is the case though bearing in mind its only been one live show. If he does it could end up like we are listening to a Mariah or Celine album, way too much warbling!!

On a different subject, does anyone else have a sneaky feeling there will be a break out performance on next weeks show, which no-one will see coming? I have a feeling as its been a little poor this season so far, there is going to be someone who blows our socks off who we are not expecting!! or is this just blind optimism!!

Now that was a performance! Easily the most memorable of the night.

I've just read the spoiler of whose through... regret it now!!

Excuse me, I am certainly no Adam detractor and am not clutching onto Kara's 'dumb criticism' for the sake of it. I was looking forward to hearing him (check my earlier posts in the thread). I think pretty much everyone who has made this point about Adam thinks he is a great singer.

I will attempt to explain again. Musical theatre (Adams background) requires an abilty to convey a character through song. this requires pretending you are someone else entirely and 'selling' the song through that character.

Think of Julie Andrews in the Sound of music, her character is an ex Nun/Nanny. She has to step out of herself and convey someone else when she sings each song. It requires wearing a different personality entirely to convey to the audience and 'getting into character'. I have acted in musical theatre and you have to step out of yourself completely to pretend you are totally different. Adam seems to be using this theatrical style to convey. With the result people find it hard to connect to Adam. Hence the comments 'a persona without a person underneath'. Maybe Adam is so good at musical theatre he is 'in character' all the time.

In contrast think of Amy Winehouse singing 'Love is a Losing Game'
Or Sinead O Connor singing 'Nothing compares to you'. Can you see the difference in how it is conveyed?

Just to be clear, I think everyone who is saying this is saying it very constructively. You seem to be indicating we are jumping on some kind of Kara bandwagon. Are you joking me? I very often don't agree with the judges. I think Adam very much deserves a place in the final 12.

Someone else said 'he could be singing anything'. I agree. There is something missing for some of us.

This style could go against him, a lot of people are saying this same thing.
BUT I do think he is very talented.

Evening IMA, and not to worry about it as you can listen to them to see if it was the right decision made. But don't tell me as I'd rather not know and get a surprise instead.

Can't see the Friday thread and it's almost that time for the off, as they say.

xxx

Kara's learning quick that this is Simon's show

Simon seems to have a real soft spot for Paula doesn't he

Totally agree with everything you've said in your post - fantastic explanation, btw. I certainly don't consider myself an 'Adam detractor' either, and I didn't even realize Kara had made the comment about Adam not connecting with the song, so I wasn't jumping on any bandwagon when I said the same thing. As you say pretty much everyone who's posted about this has said he's a brilliant singer, and that he totally deserves to be in the top 12. It's just that we have a few reservations about him.

Someone in another thread linked to a blog in Entertainment Weekly which made some good points about Adam (and all the other contestants), albeit in a very snarky way. The writer basically says it's obvious Adam is a great singer and performer, but...

The whole blog is pretty hilarious but spot on a lot of the time; I'm slowly working my way through the back entries.

Hi Dix. Just catching up. I thought I'd get a comment about Paris being sandwiched. I don't think she'd mind