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craigbest · 02-03-2009, 23:21

we have toshiba 32AV555D and wife just ordered sky+ hd

is this tv suitable or will it be a waste of the extra money daft question maybe but i would apprecate an opinion please

John Currie · 02-03-2009, 23:25

You haven't said whether you're a new Sky subscriber or whether you're upgrading to SkyHD?
Your TV is an HD Ready TV...an HD source will bring out the best in it.

craigbest · 02-03-2009, 23:36

yes already with sky and have sky+ and broadband but had some issues which we cant nail down
picture freezes some times and some recorded programs wont play so the mrs has said sod it the sky+hd can go in maybe that will sort some issues

somebody mentioned a issue could be the frequancey setting on the sky

Gilbertoo · 02-03-2009, 23:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigbest

yes already with sky and have sky+ and broadband but had some issues which we cant nail down
picture freezes some times and some recorded programs wont play so the mrs has said sod it the sky+hd can go in maybe that will sort some issues

somebody mentioned a issue could be the frequancey setting on the sky

Nope, they'll be no issue with frequency. Your TV is HD Ready, but not full HD. It will downscale to 720p just fine. It will be probably be an improvement on your current picture, although some purests will argue that HD on a 32" TV isn't worth.

However, if your current Sky+ box is on the blink, then getting the HD box seems a logical thing to do.

Nigel Goodwin · 02-03-2009, 23:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilbertoo

Nope, they'll be no issue with frequency. Your TV is HD Ready, but not full HD. It will downscale to 720p just fine. It will be probably be an improvement on your current picture, although some purests will argue that HD on a 32" TV isn't worth.

Sorry, but again, the usual load of rubbish - the Toshiba is almost certainly NOT 720 anyway (few sets are), and size itself makes do difference to HD - it's only size related to viewing distance that matters.

A 32 inch set at 5 feet, is just as good (and the same size picture) as a 64 inch at 10 feet.

craigbest · 03-03-2009, 00:19

well i wasnt expecting an argument

only wanted to know will my veiwing improve as i have also read that although programs are classed as hd these are not sent it 1080

so again will i notice an improvement and by the way i am 8foot from my telly

Willie Wontie · 03-03-2009, 10:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigbest

only wanted to know will my veiwing improve as i have also read that although programs are classed as hd these are not sent it 1080

Well, they aren't sent in anything else...

IvanIV · 03-03-2009, 11:35

TV HD broadcast can be in either 720p or 1080i and any HD Ready TV must be able to handle both. As for the better picture, an optimal viewing distance for HD is much smaller than for SD. For 32'', maximum recommended viewing distance for SD is 11.2 feet, for HD 4.2 feet. With longer distances the eye is not able to register all the details, but I think that even at 8 feet you'll be able to see the difference.

craigbest · 03-03-2009, 14:05

thanks for the replys i think i have now understood what some people are saying

basically unless you have a couple of grand to spend your wasting your time. i was asking for a honest opinion

will picture quality be improved on some channels?(the hd channels) the sound i know will be improved due to what else i have

i have a cinema system thats connects to sky with an optical lead and hdmi lead to tv

Deacon1972 · 03-03-2009, 15:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigbest

thanks for the replys i think i have now understood what some people are saying

basically unless you have a couple of grand to spend your wasting your time. i was asking for a honest opinion

will picture quality be improved on some channels?(the hd channels) the sound i know will be improved due to what else i have

i have a cinema system thats connects to sky with an optical lead and hdmi lead to tv

You will benefit from HD, so long as you sit at the recommended seating distance which will be around 5ft, just be aware the further you sit from that distance you will start to lose definition and the difference between SD/HD becomes less apparent.

You will also be able to listen to Sky programming in DD5.1 when available from your sound system.

Basically there is nothing wrong with the TV you have, just get SKY HD installed, sit back and enjoy it.

craigbest · 03-03-2009, 16:52

thanks deacon very honest responce and direct answer seems to be a safe way of understandin

whats dd5.1

mycinema system is 5.1

5 speakers and all that PANASONIC SC-PT460EB-K is the model and type we already have great sound so are you saying it will be even more dynamic

Willie Wontie · 03-03-2009, 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigbest

whats dd5.1

Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound.

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigbest

mycinema system is 5.1
5 speakers and all that PANASONIC SC-PT460EB-K is the model and type we already have great sound so are you saying it will be even more dynamic

Do you already connect your Sky+ box to your home cinema system using an optical audio cable, and do you already suscribe to Sky Movies? If so, then you already know what DD5.1 is - with a Sky HD box, you will find more channels (not just Sky Movies) also come in DD5.1 audio.

craigbest · 03-03-2009, 17:33

thanks for that and yes already connected that way

great more ducking and diving the speakers

Gilbertoo · 04-03-2009, 14:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

Sorry, but again, the usual load of rubbish - the Toshiba is almost certainly NOT 720 anyway (few sets are), and size itself makes do difference to HD - it's only size related to viewing distance that matters.

A 32 inch set at 5 feet, is just as good (and the same size picture) as a 64 inch at 10 feet.

Come on dude, don't be so anal. I never stated or intimated that the Tosh panel WAS a 720p panel. I know that non-full HD panels are mostly 1366x768 (or whatever it is). Since there isn't a 768 option on the Sky+HD box, there's absolutely no point in mentioning it. Sky offer 1080i or 720p and for ease, stating that the Tosh panel will downscale to 720p is perfectly acceptable. I could of course offer "the panel will receive a 720p signal, then upscale to 768....although this isn't an industry standard TV resolution"....but that would be confusing things...

Also, I never offered an opinion about the screen size being too big or small. I was merely pointing out that some purests will argue this point......your response being a good example.

Please don't state the info given is the usual "load of rubbish". It certainly wasn't.

craigbest · 04-03-2009, 18:38

nigel and gilberto

you are what appears to be experts in this field

i wanted an honest opinion not that of somebody who only intrest is to be little the buyers at the lower end of the market

i have a tv and are happy with it just wanted to know if it will give me increased veiwiing sharpness deacon gave the best responce easy answer it will be untill u stry sitting 40 foot away

Gilbertoo · 04-03-2009, 19:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigbest

nigel and gilberto

you are what appears to be experts in this field

i wanted an honest opinion not that of somebody who only intrest is to be little the buyers at the lower end of the market

i have a tv and are happy with it just wanted to know if it will give me increased veiwiing sharpness deacon gave the best responce easy answer it will be untill u stry sitting 40 foot away

Oh, don't worry, Nigel is definitely the expert here, I sometimes turn to him for advice too....but sometimes he can get too anal.

I'm pleased you are happy with your TV. You certainly will benefit from having Sky HD...enjoy!!

Nigel Goodwin · 04-03-2009, 20:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilbertoo

Come on dude, don't be so anal. I never stated or intimated that the Tosh panel WAS a 720p panel. I know that non-full HD panels are mostly 1366x768 (or whatever it is). Since there isn't a 768 option on the Sky+HD box, there's absolutely no point in mentioning it.

There's even less point in giving a completely wrong answer - you know the set isn't 720, so why say it is?.

Any option on the Sky box has nothing whatsoever to do with it.

It would make FAR more sense to say the TV will scale the picture to fit the screen - which is accurate and consise.

nancyboy · 04-03-2009, 20:38

If Nigel was really anal he'd know how to spell concise.

Gilbertoo · 05-03-2009, 10:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

There's even less point in giving a completely wrong answer - you know the set isn't 720, so why say it is?.

Any option on the Sky box has nothing whatsoever to do with it.

It would make FAR more sense to say the TV will scale the picture to fit the screen - which is accurate and consise.

Let's put this one to bed....show me where I state the set is a 720 set?

Sometimes, simplifying things for people is the better option...

Deacon1972 · 05-03-2009, 12:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilbertoo

Let's put this one to bed....show me where I state the set is a 720 set?

I have to say you did imply the TV had a resolution of 720.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilbertoo

Your TV is HD Ready, but not full HD. It will downscale to 720p just fine.

At the end of the day the OP got the important information they required - they will benefit from HD as their TV is HD ready, regardless of whether it's 720/768.

Do you require tucking in.

02-03-2009, 23:21	#1
craigbest Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 31	oh no the wifes done it we have toshiba 32AV555D and wife just ordered sky+ hd is this tv suitable or will it be a waste of the extra money daft question maybe but i would apprecate an opinion please

02-03-2009, 23:25	#2
John Currie Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: South Lanarkshire. Scotland Posts: 2,005	You haven't said whether you're a new Sky subscriber or whether you're upgrading to SkyHD? Your TV is an HD Ready TV...an HD source will bring out the best in it.

02-03-2009, 23:36	#3
craigbest Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 31	yes already with sky and have sky+ and broadband but had some issues which we cant nail down picture freezes some times and some recorded programs wont play so the mrs has said sod it the sky+hd can go in maybe that will sort some issues somebody mentioned a issue could be the frequancey setting on the sky

02-03-2009, 23:47	#4
Gilbertoo Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 19,059	Quote: Originally Posted by craigbest yes already with sky and have sky+ and broadband but had some issues which we cant nail down picture freezes some times and some recorded programs wont play so the mrs has said sod it the sky+hd can go in maybe that will sort some issues somebody mentioned a issue could be the frequancey setting on the sky Nope, they'll be no issue with frequency. Your TV is HD Ready, but not full HD. It will downscale to 720p just fine. It will be probably be an improvement on your current picture, although some purests will argue that HD on a 32" TV isn't worth. However, if your current Sky+ box is on the blink, then getting the HD box seems a logical thing to do.

02-03-2009, 23:55	#5
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by Gilbertoo Nope, they'll be no issue with frequency. Your TV is HD Ready, but not full HD. It will downscale to 720p just fine. It will be probably be an improvement on your current picture, although some purests will argue that HD on a 32" TV isn't worth. Sorry, but again, the usual load of rubbish - the Toshiba is almost certainly NOT 720 anyway (few sets are), and size itself makes do difference to HD - it's only size related to viewing distance that matters. A 32 inch set at 5 feet, is just as good (and the same size picture) as a 64 inch at 10 feet.

03-03-2009, 00:19	#6
craigbest Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 31	well i wasnt expecting an argument only wanted to know will my veiwing improve as i have also read that although programs are classed as hd these are not sent it 1080 so again will i notice an improvement and by the way i am 8foot from my telly

03-03-2009, 10:57	#7
Willie Wontie Inactive Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,847	Quote: Originally Posted by craigbest only wanted to know will my veiwing improve as i have also read that although programs are classed as hd these are not sent it 1080 Well, they aren't sent in anything else...

03-03-2009, 11:35	#8
IvanIV Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 25,199	TV HD broadcast can be in either 720p or 1080i and any HD Ready TV must be able to handle both. As for the better picture, an optimal viewing distance for HD is much smaller than for SD. For 32'', maximum recommended viewing distance for SD is 11.2 feet, for HD 4.2 feet. With longer distances the eye is not able to register all the details, but I think that even at 8 feet you'll be able to see the difference.

03-03-2009, 14:05	#9
craigbest Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 31	thanks for the replys i think i have now understood what some people are saying basically unless you have a couple of grand to spend your wasting your time. i was asking for a honest opinion will picture quality be improved on some channels?(the hd channels) the sound i know will be improved due to what else i have i have a cinema system thats connects to sky with an optical lead and hdmi lead to tv

03-03-2009, 15:27	#10
Deacon1972 Guest Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,103	Quote: Originally Posted by craigbest thanks for the replys i think i have now understood what some people are saying basically unless you have a couple of grand to spend your wasting your time. i was asking for a honest opinion will picture quality be improved on some channels?(the hd channels) the sound i know will be improved due to what else i have i have a cinema system thats connects to sky with an optical lead and hdmi lead to tv You will benefit from HD, so long as you sit at the recommended seating distance which will be around 5ft, just be aware the further you sit from that distance you will start to lose definition and the difference between SD/HD becomes less apparent. You will also be able to listen to Sky programming in DD5.1 when available from your sound system. Basically there is nothing wrong with the TV you have, just get SKY HD installed, sit back and enjoy it.

03-03-2009, 16:52	#11
craigbest Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 31	thanks deacon very honest responce and direct answer seems to be a safe way of understandin whats dd5.1 mycinema system is 5.1 5 speakers and all that PANASONIC SC-PT460EB-K is the model and type we already have great sound so are you saying it will be even more dynamic

03-03-2009, 16:59	#12
Willie Wontie Inactive Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,847	Quote: Originally Posted by craigbest whats dd5.1 Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound. Quote: Originally Posted by craigbest mycinema system is 5.1 5 speakers and all that PANASONIC SC-PT460EB-K is the model and type we already have great sound so are you saying it will be even more dynamic Do you already connect your Sky+ box to your home cinema system using an optical audio cable, and do you already suscribe to Sky Movies? If so, then you already know what DD5.1 is - with a Sky HD box, you will find more channels (not just Sky Movies) also come in DD5.1 audio.

03-03-2009, 17:33	#13
craigbest Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 31	thanks for that and yes already connected that way great more ducking and diving the speakers

04-03-2009, 14:05	#14
Gilbertoo Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 19,059	Quote: Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin Sorry, but again, the usual load of rubbish - the Toshiba is almost certainly NOT 720 anyway (few sets are), and size itself makes do difference to HD - it's only size related to viewing distance that matters. A 32 inch set at 5 feet, is just as good (and the same size picture) as a 64 inch at 10 feet. Come on dude, don't be so anal. I never stated or intimated that the Tosh panel WAS a 720p panel. I know that non-full HD panels are mostly 1366x768 (or whatever it is). Since there isn't a 768 option on the Sky+HD box, there's absolutely no point in mentioning it. Sky offer 1080i or 720p and for ease, stating that the Tosh panel will downscale to 720p is perfectly acceptable. I could of course offer "the panel will receive a 720p signal, then upscale to 768....although this isn't an industry standard TV resolution"....but that would be confusing things... Also, I never offered an opinion about the screen size being too big or small. I was merely pointing out that some purests will argue this point......your response being a good example. Please don't state the info given is the usual "load of rubbish". It certainly wasn't.

04-03-2009, 18:38	#15
craigbest Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 31	nigel and gilberto you are what appears to be experts in this field i wanted an honest opinion not that of somebody who only intrest is to be little the buyers at the lower end of the market i have a tv and are happy with it just wanted to know if it will give me increased veiwiing sharpness deacon gave the best responce easy answer it will be untill u stry sitting 40 foot away

04-03-2009, 19:40	#16
Gilbertoo Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 19,059	Quote: Originally Posted by craigbest nigel and gilberto you are what appears to be experts in this field i wanted an honest opinion not that of somebody who only intrest is to be little the buyers at the lower end of the market i have a tv and are happy with it just wanted to know if it will give me increased veiwiing sharpness deacon gave the best responce easy answer it will be untill u stry sitting 40 foot away Oh, don't worry, Nigel is definitely the expert here, I sometimes turn to him for advice too....but sometimes he can get too anal. I'm pleased you are happy with your TV. You certainly will benefit from having Sky HD...enjoy!!

04-03-2009, 20:17	#17
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by Gilbertoo Come on dude, don't be so anal. I never stated or intimated that the Tosh panel WAS a 720p panel. I know that non-full HD panels are mostly 1366x768 (or whatever it is). Since there isn't a 768 option on the Sky+HD box, there's absolutely no point in mentioning it. There's even less point in giving a completely wrong answer - you know the set isn't 720, so why say it is?. Any option on the Sky box has nothing whatsoever to do with it. It would make FAR more sense to say the TV will scale the picture to fit the screen - which is accurate and consise.

04-03-2009, 20:38	#18
nancyboy Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 822	If Nigel was really anal he'd know how to spell concise.

05-03-2009, 10:23	#19
Gilbertoo Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 19,059	Quote: Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin There's even less point in giving a completely wrong answer - you know the set isn't 720, so why say it is?. Any option on the Sky box has nothing whatsoever to do with it. It would make FAR more sense to say the TV will scale the picture to fit the screen - which is accurate and consise. Let's put this one to bed....show me where I state the set is a 720 set? Sometimes, simplifying things for people is the better option...

05-03-2009, 12:34	#20
Deacon1972 Guest Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,103	Quote: Originally Posted by Gilbertoo Let's put this one to bed....show me where I state the set is a 720 set? I have to say you did imply the TV had a resolution of 720. Quote: Originally Posted by Gilbertoo Your TV is HD Ready, but not full HD. It will downscale to 720p just fine. At the end of the day the OP got the important information they required - they will benefit from HD as their TV is HD ready, regardless of whether it's 720/768. Do you require tucking in.

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