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Morrison gutted!
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Just to add to the debate, there is an interesting article in this week's Radio Times by Stuart Maconie. He is talking about the fact that some people don't like awards bashes and others do and the relevance of them anyway. This is what he says which you might find interesting. Quote:
You have to wonder at the relevance of an awards bash that shortlists Ian Brown for Best British Male Solo Artist. I have nothing against the simian former Stone Rose. But he released not one note of music during the relevant period for which he was shortlisted. At best, funny; at worst, disgraceful.
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Surely it's acceptable to be gutted not to win?
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I don't blame him.
In my opinion he clearly should of won. Sorry but how many hit songs has Paul Weller had this year? |
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I don't blame him.
In my opinion he clearly should of won. Sorry but how many hit songs has Paul Weller had this year? |
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his ''broken strings'' song is amazing! love it!
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He won it last year. He should give someone else a chance. Ian Brown should definitely not have been in the list, especially if he hadn't released anything in the qualifying time.
As you know I am a Will Young fan and I still think he should have got the Best Male Solo Artist award. He has probably done the most - a critically acclaimed album, sell-out tour, festival appearances including Glastonbury. Will is also the highest selling British male in the last year. |
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his ''broken strings'' song is amazing! love it!
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The Brits mean nothing anyway!
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I can understand him being gutted after producing one of the epic songs of the last year with Broken Strings. Bad timing on his part. He should have released it as the first single , then he probably would have won. I still can't stop listening to it.
I know it's sacrilege to pehaps say this but I think Weller is wildly overrated as a solo artist. Yes, he was great with The Jam and Style Council but his solo stuff bores me to death. And what has he really done this last year? The Brits are a joke but I can understand Morrison being hacked off. Weller's had his day. |
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Not quite the reaction you wanted Gill, was it.
He is right to be upset, he is clearly the biggest solo UK male at the moment. Broken Strings is still doing good bussiness on a global scale. None of the other males that were nominated had any where near his success this year.
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Screw him, if you're in the music business just to win awards you're in it for the wrong reason.
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Not quite the reaction you wanted Gill, was it.
He is right to be upset, he is clearly the biggest solo UK male at the moment. Broken Strings is still doing good bussiness on a global scale. None of the other males that were nominated had any where near his success this year.![]() Must have had a rethink as in an earlier interview he said he wouldn't mind losing out to Paul Weller although he clearly saw himself a cut above the others in the category. Quite arrogant really from someone quite new to the business |
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Screw him, if you're in the music business just to win awards you're in it for the wrong reason.
He actually said the contrary:Quote:
"Awards do matter, but at the same time it's not the be-all and end-all."
I don't see why it's a bad thing to be disappointed not to win something that's associated to your work. It doesn't mean that's all he cares about though.
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I'm pretty sure, considering how much Will covets this award that he too was 'gutted' but he hasn't mentioned it publicly.
This childish slating/ digs at James Morrison by some Will fans is really getting on my wick. Just because James dared to release an album the same day, suddenly comparisons betweeen their positions cropped up all the time and still it continues.:sleep: I am a fan of both singers, I enjoyed both their recent releases and to my knowledge, both albums in the current climate are doing great saleswise and they are flying the flag for British solo males in a market that is sadly lacking these days. Bravo to both of them. I don't give a flying fig who is doing 'better', who has sold more, it's like a bloody football rivalry about whose team is higher in the league. Is 'diddums' a really mature response? Why even start a thread on such a non story in the first place...James Morrison is gutted not to win a Brit...well that's a shock..not. James is saying he would rather lose to a legend than a contemporary essentially. I have no problem with that whatsover and I suspect that Will no doubt shares the same sentiments. For the record I would have preferred for Will to win the award as he hasn't had the chance to win it before. James has (although not last year as incorrectly stated above) but I certainly don't begrudge James admitting his disappointment. I'm as a big a Will fan as they come but this unnecessary rivalry is leaving a very bitter taste in my mouth. |
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Broken Strings wasn't even released at the time of the voting & his album wasn't in the top 50 of last year. His album reviews were also pretty poor. James may well be doing well now but he wasn't at the time. The awards are supposed to be given on the past year's achievements not what they may be doing in the future. Can't see how anyone could have had a crystal ball.
![]() Must have had a rethink as in an earlier interview he said he wouldn't mind losing out to Paul Weller although he clearly saw himself a cut above the others in the category. Quite arrogant really from someone quite new to the business Ahh but you are only comparing the sales of Morrisson's sceond album to what Will did in the same time period. I think you are maybe forgetting that over the same time period between Nov 2007 to Nov 2008 Morrisson's first album sold in excess of 1.2 million copies world wide. So in terms of sales I can see why he would be dissapointed. |
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Ahh but you are only comparing the sales of Morrisson's sceond album to what Will did in the same time period. I think you are maybe forgetting that over the same time period between Nov 2007 to Nov 2008 Morrisson's first album sold in excess of 1.2 million copies world wide. So in terms of sales I can see why he would be dissapointed.
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I'm pretty sure, considering how much Will covets this award that he too was 'gutted' but he hasn't mentioned it publicly.
This childish slating/ digs at James Morrison by some Will fans is really getting on my wick. Just because James dared to release an album the same day, suddenly comparisons betweeen their positions cropped up all the time and still it continues.:sleep: I am a fan of both singers, I enjoyed both their recent releases and to my knowledge, both albums in the current climate are doing great saleswise and they are flying the flag for British solo males in a market that is sadly lacking these days. Bravo to both of them. I don't give a flying fig who is doing 'better', who has sold more, it's like a bloody football rivalry about whose team is higher in the league. Is 'diddums' a really mature response? Why even start a thread on such a non story in the first place...James Morrison is gutted not to win a Brit...well that's a shock..not. James is saying he would rather lose to a legend than a contemporary essentially. I have no problem with that whatsover and I suspect that Will no doubt shares the same sentiments. For the record I would have preferred for Will to win the award as he hasn't had the chance to win it before. James has (although not last year as incorrectly stated above) but I certainly don't begrudge James admitting his disappointment. I'm as a big a Will fan as they come but this unnecessary rivalry is leaving a very bitter taste in my mouth. |
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Quite arrogant really from someone quite new to the business
I think that's a really unfair description to use for someone who it seems to me couldn't be any less arrogant if he tried. From what I've seen of him, which admittedly is only since he released Broken Strings, he's always come across as being quite a shy unassuming person and I really can't see anything wrong with him being disappointed at not winning, especially if what Woodlands said is correct and he's sold a large amount of copies of his first album as well during the qualifying year. |
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Ahh but you are only comparing the sales of Morrisson's sceond album to what Will did in the same time period. I think you are maybe forgetting that over the same time period between Nov 2007 to Nov 2008 Morrisson's first album sold in excess of 1.2 million copies world wide. So in terms of sales I can see why he would be dissapointed.
But i agree, an unnecessary thread. Thank goodness for the pair of them, ploughing on in a market obsessed with females ![]() I really wanted Will to win the Brit this year, he's missed out 4 or 5 times now. He could give classes on being 'gutted'. This was James's first year of missing out. |
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Ahh but you are only comparing the sales of Morrisson's sceond album to what Will did in the same time period. I think you are maybe forgetting that over the same time period between Nov 2007 to Nov 2008 Morrisson's first album sold in excess of 1.2 million copies world wide. So in terms of sales I can see why he would be dissapointed.
Sales of James's first album in that time period have nothing to do with it. His nomination for the 2009 Brits was based on his second album. It's like double jeopardy, James could not be nominated for the same award with the same album, having won it once already with that album. But, as someone else has said, thank goodness for the two of them, with James Blunt and Robbie off the secene, it's only these two flying the flag for Brit males at the moment.
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Will's second album sold well over 1.6 million worldwide, I believe.
Good for Will, but if you are trying to compare it to JM, his first album has sold 2.5 million copies since its release in 2006. 1.2 million of which was sold between 2007/8 qualifying period. This is a supid thread, it just annoys me that some Will Young fans have to always score points against other male artists. If its not James Morrison it's someone else. They constantly compare sales and careers, they just don't seem happy unless they are picking other artist apart. Quote:
Sales of James's first album in that time period have nothing to do with it. His nomination for the 2009 Brits was based on his second album. It's like double jeopardy, James could not be nominated for the same award with the same album, having won it once already with that album.
I thought that rule only applied to "Best Album" otherwise we wouldn't have had years of Annie Lennox and Kate Bush being nominated every yeat despite not having released a new album . |
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I would have loved Will to have won but when this didn't happen I was pleased Paul Weller won the award. He toured extensively in 2008 & had the best album reviews of the all the nominees. A Brit is not given to the artist with the most commercial success anyway or Will wouldn't have lost out to the Streets in a previous year.
I also agree Marguerite a nomination is based on the studio album of that year & not an artist's back catalogue & JM has already been rewarded for his debut album (which incidentally I do own) with a Brit award. I do wish though that this thread hadn't been started. |
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I do wish though that this thread hadn't been started. It's all about Will Young's fans trying to score points over other artists yet again If he was "the biggest selling artist in the world" his fans may reason to gloat, but the fact is WY's career is on the decline so it seems a little misguided to start this kind of thread.
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It's all about Will Young's fans trying to score points over other artists yet again
If he was "the biggest selling artist in the world" his fans may reason to gloat, but the fact is WY's career is on the decline so it seems a little misguided to start this kind of thread. |
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He is right to be upset, he is clearly the biggest solo UK male at the moment.
Broken Strings is still doing good bussiness on a global scale. None of the other males that were nominated had any where near his success this year.

If he was "the biggest selling artist in the world" his fans may reason to gloat, but the fact is WY's career is on the decline so it seems a little misguided to start this kind of thread.