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Is it time for ID cards?
megashopper
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We are constantly being asked for ID and confirmation of address in paper format.
In the building society last week, standing at the reception desk, customer after customer slapped the UK Passport on the desk before being dealt with.
Literally, rummaging around all over the house last week to find paper mail with my daughter's name and address.
Is it time for ID Cards ?
In the building society last week, standing at the reception desk, customer after customer slapped the UK Passport on the desk before being dealt with.
Literally, rummaging around all over the house last week to find paper mail with my daughter's name and address.
Is it time for ID Cards ?
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Its not advice I know but now that we need to show identity to vote I feel a national ID scheme would be a good idea. Not sure if think we need to go as far as to insist people carry this around with you at all times.
Is it time for your daughter to get a passport? Or to take better care of her filing?
What would be the point in setting up an additional system which is presumably not going to be any cheaper or less bureaucratic than getting a passport or driving licence?
You clearly have never been through the multiple hoops of ID confirmation that we are constantly having to jump through.
Of course my daughter has a passport, why wouldn't she if we have passports.
If we had ID cards, a single card would suffice in all instances.
If dealing with financial institutions or national organisations.
Have you tried taking out an ISA recently? And, as above, you now need to confirm your ID to vote.
The problem can only get worse, it seems to be linked to illegal immigration, and I don't see that being solved any time soon.
In fact I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't need to produce ID in the future to get medical treatment.
For people that want to have them/need them, maybe. For those that don't need them/want them though, no. I think it should just be a case of they're there for you if you want them.
How are we supposed to know from the OP that you or your daughter have passports? You were talking about other customers having passports.
Did you find something with her address? Even if we had ID cards, you'd have to go through some process to get it issued, and pay for it (whether directly or indirectly), and it wouldn't necessarily prevent being asked for additional ID.
Also most people have ID, even my 16 year old does. And no it wasn't difficult for her to open a bank account or ISA account, done via video banking.
To be fair, you never actually mentioned that you had passports. Just that other customers were showing theirs and that you had been rummaging around at home to find paper mail with your daughter's name and address.
I had a look at Marcus and to open an ISA you just need to unload a photo of your id and a copy of something with your address on (which can be a bad l statement downloaded from internet banking). That should take a couple of minutes at most.
As far as I know, there is no party looking at introducing I.D cards. Tony Blair keeps going on about them, but he is no one now. the last time the government tried to bring them in, it cost the country a fortune and the next government got rid of them. Now if they set up an I.D card system it would cost even more. We were told it would help with law enforcement, yeah, someone going out to do a crime will take their I.D. card with them. The problem with the system Labour wanted was the database behind it and If the I.D card did happen I would have refused one, They also wanted us to pay for them as well.
I am not going to say the U.K will never have an I.D card as times change, and governments change, but I doubt we will see one in most of our lifetimes and I also think it should be voluntary, like the Tories were looking at before Blair got into power.
The digital I.D system that is being looked at and so far has not got off the ground is a different thing.
I have gone all these years without an I.D card, I don't need one now. Anyway, it would give our coppers another reason to stop us.
I hope it's not too bad!
It already does, it's called a passport or a driving licence - as we've already got TWO, why do you want to add a THIRD and somehow claim that's a SINGLE one?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12924087/Keir-Starmer-wise-cosy-Tony-Blair-autocrats.html
I can understand having to get a driving licence, that'll show that you can drive a car. A passport though, well, I dunno.
Only after you pass your test. Anybody can get a provisional licence (assuming you're old enough and don't have medical reasons which would prohibit you from driving). And it's cheaper than a passport.
Some US states issue "non-driver driving licenses" for ID purposes, given they're the de facto ID card.
But like I said above, even an ID card probably isn't going to prevent being asked for something in addition - I suspect it wouldn't always be accepted as proof of address, for example, given it would be as easy to "forget" to update that when you move as with a driving licence.
Yeah, obviously. It'll show that you're legally allowed to drive a car.
I have both a passport & driving licence, and wouldn't necessarily need an ID card - I have more issues with proving my address than having photo ID (and yes, I know a licence counts as proof of address)
However my friend and her son both don't drive and so struggle to find suitable ID - he had to apply for a passport to use it as ID for a job application, whereas a national ID card issued at 16 and updated every 5-10 years would be better.
The infrastructure is already in place to produce photo licences, it wouldn't be that much more expensive to produce them as ID cards, replacing the driving info on the back with things such as donor cards, blood type etc etc.
Why do you want to know my full name? It's not relevant to this discussion, and I don't see you asking anyone else?
The point is that you are paranoid enough not to want to give just your name on an anonymous internet forum, which, unless your name is totally unique, is not identifiable to you and yet you are advocating everyone carry around a card with their blood type on. I dread to think what you mean by 'etc etc'.
If not, you can might be able to use a buspass or a citizencard.
https://www.citizencard.com/
https://www.postoffice.co.uk/identity/pass-card