Of course Nicky now tries to accuse him of being a pervert - I haven't seen the evidence. But it's just the ageism and arrogance of people like her - 'Oh he's a bit creepy' :rolleyes:
Well he's got a lot more drive than you'll have.
We've not seen too much evidence of "drive" so far either, though it's early days. Anyway, what's that got to do with whether or not he's being creepy? Bit of a non-sequitur there.
I'm surprised to find myself quite liking him - or, at least, I think he's going to be a unique housemate, while the other three newbies, so far, appear to be types we've seen a dozen times before on BB (though Liam seems decent enough). Jonathan regards the whole thing with a kind of detachment, analysing rather than becoming involved. When he told the twins they were "marketing astute", he knew they were going to ask "What does that mean?", because that would fit with what he sees as their "act". He practically mouthed it along with them.
He is a catalyst in there, will make it more interesting, and seems ok.
I do not see him as a perv or a creep. Has Nikkie got a point? I suppose time will tell.
He seems intelligent, positive minded and seems to suss people up pretty quickly and has no time for bullshit.
Of course Nicky now tries to accuse him of being a pervert - I haven't seen the evidence. But it's just the ageism and arrogance of people like her - 'Oh he's a bit creepy' :rolleyes:
Well he's got a lot more drive than you'll have.
What's the consensus of him here?
So far I think he's a right bullsh!tter. His questioning of Carole about Nikky has more to do with his curiosity about Carole rather than Nikky imo.
I think he's very sly. But this might make him interesting for a while. I'm not keen on him at all.
On the last night's HL show, he desribed Sam-Or-Amanda as 'deliciously shallow'. That's a comment from a 49 year man about an 18 year girl. Not really appropriate and somewhat creepy.
On the last night's HL show, he desribed Sam-Or-Amanda as 'deliciously shallow'. That's a comment from a 49 year man about an 18 year girl. Not really appropriate and somewhat creepy.
I thought he pretty much hit the nail on the head with regards to the twins. His 'can I be their manager' in the diary room was very funny.
On the last night's HL show, he desribed Sam-Or-Amanda as 'deliciously shallow'. That's a comment from a 49 year man about an 18 year girl. Not really appropriate and somewhat creepy.
Well, I don't know about your interpretation, but I thought it was weird. I'm not saying he's a perv but it was a strange choice of words and very insulting. I'm sure their parents were'nt happy about it either.
I thought he pretty much hit the nail on the head with regards to the twins. His 'can I be their manager' in the diary room was very funny.
He didn't just say shallow, he said "deliciously shallow" which I find strange. I still don't think he's a perv, but I thought it could come across as insinuating that the twins could be used just to make money out of. And then to suggest he could manage them as if they were just a piece of meat and they would fall for anything.
On the last night's HL show, he desribed Sam-Or-Amanda as 'deliciously shallow'. That's a comment from a 49 year man about an 18 year girl. Not really appropriate and somewhat creepy.
Why is that unappropriate and creepy? Isn't it the same reason so many like the twins?
He is in media, he can see their marketability and wouldn't be surprised if he does offer to manage them after, not because he is a 'perv' but because he can see how media savvy they are.
On the last night's HL show, he desribed Sam-Or-Amanda as 'deliciously shallow'. That's a comment from a 49 year man about an 18 year girl. Not really appropriate and somewhat creepy.
The twins do seem to remain in the banal-o-sphere with utter ease, avoiding saying anything interesting by miles. I agree with Jon, it's an amazing achievement. "delicously shallow" is much more poetic.
Well, I don't know about your interpretation, but I thought it was weird. I'm not saying he's a perv but it was a strange choice of words and very insulting. I'm sure their parents were'nt happy about it either.
I'm not sure what to make of him in that respect either.
I know Nicky is a self-confessed manhater but she seems pretty astute and she said she felt he was leering at her and It's not as though she's made the same remarks against the other guys.
I'd need to observe him a bit closer before I pass any judgement, but so far the things he's come out with are pretty ambiguous to say the least, but I don't want to accuse the guy, if it's not true.
I don't mind Jonathan, but he's in a difficult situation with so many youngsters because the girls feel threatened if he tries to join in and be part of the fun. They're not mature enough to handle him. I mean look at the difference with Shilpa and Dirk, he'd get flirty and she'd just tease back and laugh it off.
I don't mind Jonathan, but he's in a difficult situation with so many youngsters because the girls feel threatened if he tries to join in and be part of the fun. They're not mature enough to handle him. I mean look at the difference with Shilpa and Dirk, he get flirty and she'd just tease back and laugh it off.
Big difference.
Shilpa was older and Dirk was very handsome. I don't think Jonathan is a perv, but of course if he did show signs of it, then I would change my mind.
Having said that, I think it would be a disgrace if Nikky labeled this man a perv if he was doing nothing but just looking at nothing in particular.
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We've not seen too much evidence of "drive" so far either, though it's early days. Anyway, what's that got to do with whether or not he's being creepy? Bit of a non-sequitur there.
I'm surprised to find myself quite liking him - or, at least, I think he's going to be a unique housemate, while the other three newbies, so far, appear to be types we've seen a dozen times before on BB (though Liam seems decent enough). Jonathan regards the whole thing with a kind of detachment, analysing rather than becoming involved. When he told the twins they were "marketing astute", he knew they were going to ask "What does that mean?", because that would fit with what he sees as their "act". He practically mouthed it along with them.
With the four house mates going in, there's less bonding going on than when The Zigg, Bonkers and Uri joined the show.
Not sure about that ear stud though. Poncy media type
He and Carole seem to have teamed up together and that's bound to cause conflict with Carole already controlling the kitchen
I think he'll be a central character if his opinions on the other hms are anything to go by....to Carole his confidant :eek:
He's definitely a player and should stay (even though I don't like him) :eek::)
He doesn't suffer fools gladly, by the looks of things.
Okay, he is not a perv, but I have to relate to someone
I only hope he is not a dissappointment and totally different to his VT
Which I'm sure every housemates just lies on.
He's alright. Quite droll.
I do not see him as a perv or a creep. Has Nikkie got a point? I suppose time will tell.
So far I think he's a right bullsh!tter. His questioning of Carole about Nikky has more to do with his curiosity about Carole rather than Nikky imo.
I think he's very sly. But this might make him interesting for a while. I'm not keen on him at all.
Hmm, he's already said to Carole he wants to take control of the fridge. I wonder why?
Oh dear :eek:....Never trust anyone who looks like Spock
Lmao
I thought he pretty much hit the nail on the head with regards to the twins. His 'can I be their manager' in the diary room was very funny.
Did this not happen on BB celeb? With Dirk Benedict. One of those young girls considered him to be a pervert too?
I feel that those girls should think before they open there big gabs.
And yes I think he is a nice and interesting guy so far.
Well, I don't know about your interpretation, but I thought it was weird. I'm not saying he's a perv but it was a strange choice of words and very insulting. I'm sure their parents were'nt happy about it either.
He didn't just say shallow, he said "deliciously shallow" which I find strange. I still don't think he's a perv, but I thought it could come across as insinuating that the twins could be used just to make money out of. And then to suggest he could manage them as if they were just a piece of meat and they would fall for anything.
Very bad in my book.
Why is that unappropriate and creepy? Isn't it the same reason so many like the twins?
He is in media, he can see their marketability and wouldn't be surprised if he does offer to manage them after, not because he is a 'perv' but because he can see how media savvy they are.
The twins do seem to remain in the banal-o-sphere with utter ease, avoiding saying anything interesting by miles. I agree with Jon, it's an amazing achievement. "delicously shallow" is much more poetic.
I'm not sure what to make of him in that respect either.
I know Nicky is a self-confessed manhater but she seems pretty astute and she said she felt he was leering at her and It's not as though she's made the same remarks against the other guys.
I'd need to observe him a bit closer before I pass any judgement, but so far the things he's come out with are pretty ambiguous to say the least, but I don't want to accuse the guy, if it's not true.
Big difference.
Shilpa was older and Dirk was very handsome. I don't think Jonathan is a perv, but of course if he did show signs of it, then I would change my mind.
Having said that, I think it would be a disgrace if Nikky labeled this man a perv if he was doing nothing but just looking at nothing in particular.