I think it's the folks that seek this sort of thing out for entertainment purposes are who make me uncomfortable. No doubt they'd be in the front row at public executions or the Romans feeding slaves to lions.
I know it's a complex subject. I really like violent action films, but then I know they're make believe. When you watch footage of real death for fun I think you've got serious mental problems that ought to be addressed.
Deaths in Formula were far more common in the past- Tom Pryce, Gilles Villeneuve, Riccardo Paletti
Quite a few would have been on live TV, Paletti's is on You Tube, but be warned, it's not very nice!
Thankfully safety has improved lots since, It's amazing the scale of the accidents which are survivable these days
I think Robert Kubica's at the Canadian GP last year proves that point. Never be complacent though, it can always happen. I did fear the worst when I saw Kubica's accident.
9/11 is easily the worst because nearly 3,000 people were deliberately killed (by whom, exactly, STILL remains unclear) in front of live television for the world to see. A sick circus of death on a huge scale. It truly is enough to make you want to give up on humanity.
But then you think of when the Americans had no qualms about instantly killing 70,000 people in Hiroshima (with the final death toll being up to double that) with the atomic bomb. Easily the most hideous act committed in the history of the modern world. No doubt if that had happened more recently we would have had live footage of it.
Better the 70,000 dead in Hiroshima than the hundreds of thousands, probably millions that would have died if the allies would have had to invade Japan. The Japanese had made it clear during the campaigns on Guadalcanal and Iwo Jima that they would fight to the last man.
Wrestler Owen Hart died when he was doing a superhero gimmick, he flew into the arena via a cable and sadly it snapped & he dropped 50ft into the ring, breaking his neck .
The mobile phone footage of the young Kurdish woman being stoned to death while the police stood around and did nothing.
Not sure if it was shown here but CNN showed it.
One of the worst things I've ever seen.
Partly because there's a bit where she has been terribly hurt, but she's still alive and nobody helps her, they just kick her some more.
It still upsets me thinking about it.
Your thinking in the right area but wasn't live on tv. Basically a member of the public was rehearsing his stunt during the week which unfortunately turned for the worse.
The contestant was drunk, nobody seemed to notice and he didn't respond in time to whatever it was he was supposed to be doing.
9/11 is easily the worst because nearly 3,000 people were deliberately killed (by whom, exactly, STILL remains unclear) in front of live television for the world to see. A sick circus of death on a huge scale. It truly is enough to make you want to give up on humanity.
But then you think of when the Americans had no qualms about instantly killing 70,000 people in Hiroshima (with the final death toll being up to double that) with the atomic bomb. Easily the most hideous act committed in the history of the modern world. No doubt if that had happened more recently we would have had live footage of it.
The Americans may have dropped the bomb, but it had the blessing of the allies.
Japan, in their defence, made a declaration at the end of World War Two that they would never go to war with anyone again, and in fairness, after just over 60 years, they still haven't!
David Angell who was one of the main creators of the character 'Frasier' was on Flight 11 that hit the North Tower of the World Trade Center. In Frasier the radio station is K-ACL, ACL being Angell, Peter Casey and David Lee who created the show.
There's the Hungarian footballer Miklós Fehér, who died of a massive heart attack during a game that was being broadcast live. The camera was actually on him at the time, and the video isn't too hard to find at the usual sites.
The mobile phone footage of the young Kurdish woman being stoned to death while the police stood around and did nothing.
Not sure if it was shown here but CNN showed it.
One of the worst things I've ever seen.
Partly because there's a bit where she has been terribly hurt, but she's still alive and nobody helps her, they just kick her some more.
It still upsets me thinking about it.
I think it's the folks that seek this sort of thing out for entertainment purposes are who make me uncomfortable. No doubt they'd be in the front row at public executions or the Romans feeding slaves to lions.
I know it's a complex subject. I really like violent action films, but then I know they're make believe. When you watch footage of real death for fun I think you've got serious mental problems that ought to be addressed.
Regards
Mark
you can see that's an integral part of human nature, at any road accident on a major road, the unaffected side of the road either goes more slowly because of people looking at the accident, or there is often another accident caused.
...and have no problem posting the link because it simply demonstrates how awful the fire was, and how the poor commentator got it so wrong.
Its a shame they dont have the footage from just before the fire starts, where the commentator just doesn't notice the fire for ages.
To be fair though, he is a football reporter, not a news reporter, i think he does a good job when you think of what is unfolding before his eyes.He is probably also thinking that if this is being broadcast live, at that time of day, with small children listening to/watching the football, he needs to sound unpanicked and in some ways to play down how bad it is.
I had forgotten the fans cheering, that is terrible.
:eek: That's nasty. Incredible actually!!! What happened?
As I remember they allowed rubbish to build up under the stand, probably someone smoking dropped a match or Cigarette end under the seat. Many fans died at the back as the gates were apparently chained up for the match.
I don't think Bradford was live on TV as from what I remember it was on a Saturday afternoon. I was having a bath listening to a commentary of another match and they reported a fire at Bradford. At the time I thought little of it as I imagined people could easily evacuate if it was serious, but the intensity of the fire with the litter and wooden stands made it worse.
I was shown a video of the fire as part of a fire training course, we were told how the fire sucked up all the air in the stadium and I think many were suffocated.
The contestant was drunk, nobody seemed to notice and he didn't respond in time to whatever it was he was supposed to be doing.
I'm not sure he was drunk but they had reportedly been to the pub beforehand.
He had to do a bungee jump and there should have been someone with him to ensure the rope was attached properly. It became loose and he jumped to his death on the first rehearsal.
you can see that's an integral part of human nature, at any road accident on a major road, the unaffected side of the road either goes more slowly because of people looking at the accident, or there is often another accident caused.
Anyone that blocks up the other side of the motorway so that they can gawp at a crash should be removed from the gene pool, along with their entire family tree for producing such imbecilic morons.
As I remember they allowed rubbish to build up under the stand, probably someone smoking dropped a match or Cigarette end under the seat. Many fans died at the back as the gates were apparently chained up for the match.
Horrible. It's incredible how quickly the fire spreads.
you can see that's an integral part of human nature, at any road accident on a major road, the unaffected side of the road either goes more slowly because of people looking at the accident, or there is often another accident caused.
Not necessarily. It only takes one person to brake while the accident is happening and then you can get a "standing wave" jam which can last long after the other carriageway is cleaned up. See here.
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I know it's a complex subject. I really like violent action films, but then I know they're make believe. When you watch footage of real death for fun I think you've got serious mental problems that ought to be addressed.
Regards
Mark
I don't think it was, but I cannot remember.
I think Robert Kubica's at the Canadian GP last year proves that point. Never be complacent though, it can always happen. I did fear the worst when I saw Kubica's accident.
Better the 70,000 dead in Hiroshima than the hundreds of thousands, probably millions that would have died if the allies would have had to invade Japan. The Japanese had made it clear during the campaigns on Guadalcanal and Iwo Jima that they would fight to the last man.
Not sure if it was shown here but CNN showed it.
One of the worst things I've ever seen.
Partly because there's a bit where she has been terribly hurt, but she's still alive and nobody helps her, they just kick her some more.
It still upsets me thinking about it.
The contestant was drunk, nobody seemed to notice and he didn't respond in time to whatever it was he was supposed to be doing.
The Americans may have dropped the bomb, but it had the blessing of the allies.
Japan, in their defence, made a declaration at the end of World War Two that they would never go to war with anyone again, and in fairness, after just over 60 years, they still haven't!
David Angell who was one of the main creators of the character 'Frasier' was on Flight 11 that hit the North Tower of the World Trade Center. In Frasier the radio station is K-ACL, ACL being Angell, Peter Casey and David Lee who created the show.
I found it again at
http://www.leechvideo.com/video/view49294.html
...and have no problem posting the link because it simply demonstrates how awful the fire was, and how the poor commentator got it so wrong.
Thats quite some fire. The away fans singing was a bit much.
That's horrid! Lawks I'm glad I've not seen it.
you can see that's an integral part of human nature, at any road accident on a major road, the unaffected side of the road either goes more slowly because of people looking at the accident, or there is often another accident caused.
:eek: That's nasty. Incredible actually!!! What happened?
Its a shame they dont have the footage from just before the fire starts, where the commentator just doesn't notice the fire for ages.
To be fair though, he is a football reporter, not a news reporter, i think he does a good job when you think of what is unfolding before his eyes.He is probably also thinking that if this is being broadcast live, at that time of day, with small children listening to/watching the football, he needs to sound unpanicked and in some ways to play down how bad it is.
I had forgotten the fans cheering, that is terrible.
As I remember they allowed rubbish to build up under the stand, probably someone smoking dropped a match or Cigarette end under the seat. Many fans died at the back as the gates were apparently chained up for the match.
I was shown a video of the fire as part of a fire training course, we were told how the fire sucked up all the air in the stadium and I think many were suffocated.
I'm not sure he was drunk but they had reportedly been to the pub beforehand.
He had to do a bungee jump and there should have been someone with him to ensure the rope was attached properly. It became loose and he jumped to his death on the first rehearsal.
Oh my god...:eek::eek::eek: that spread so bloody fast!!! :eek:
This guy died in the middle a live tv play. He was having some make-up done between two scenes and suffered a massive heart attack
Regards
Mark
Horrible. It's incredible how quickly the fire spreads.
Not necessarily. It only takes one person to brake while the accident is happening and then you can get a "standing wave" jam which can last long after the other carriageway is cleaned up. See here.