Who's grasping at straws? Not me and that's for dead sure.
It's a valid point. The fact that you can't see it is not exactly surprising to anyone who's been following this thread, of course.
You've been told time and time again in this thread what you can do if you've got concerns about this man.
But i've never said i have concerns, per se. I just want to know. I'm a sponge for knowledge and gossip.
For reasons best known to yourself, you do not want to go to the police. Yet you are keen to continue with your assertions that others on here are soft on paedophiles. Does it not occur to you that the only person on here who is concerned about whether or not a particular person might be a paedophile is you and the only person who isn't actually going to do anything about it is also you?
So if anyone is being soft on paedophiles, who can it be?
But i've never said i have concerns, per se. I just want to know. I'm a sponge for knowledge and gossip.
Usually, grown up people know that wanting something is not a good enough reason, if there are laws in place to deny them their wants. Is this somehow news to you?
Thank you for answering my question. Shame you forgot to apologise for not picking up on it the first time round and being rude to me as a consequence.
My position in this matter has been clear since page 1 of the thread. You'll have to excuse me if i don't have the patience to deal with fools asking trite questions.
Going on your error in not reading MY posts properly, I think we can safely say you need to get your own house in order on that front.
See above.
Okay, so you are saying you don't want anything to do with the police. I say that sounds like you don't trust them. You disagree. So I am asking, if you do trust them, why don't you feel able to go to them?
As Rowdy Roddy Piper famously stated in John Carpenter's late 80's classic They Live : Mama don't like tattletales
That's a poor attempt at rubbishing my completely rational statement that no one likes a paedophile but nor do they like vigilantes either. Hardly the stuff of "laughable poppycock" is it?.
Maybe, just maybe, vigilantes aren't always a bad thing if we're dealing with people who've abused children. Or even animals for that matter.
Usualy, grown up people know that wanting something is not a good enough reason, if there are laws in place to deny them their wants. Is this somehow news to you?
Usualy grown up people know that usually has another l in it but i digress. This is the information age and if America has a SOR list which is made public as well as shows like To Catch A Predator then i don't see why we should be so draconian.
How so?
One only has to review your posts in this thread to see your rather mollycoddled views concerning the rights of poor paedophiles.
My position in this matter has been clear since page 1 of the thread. You'll have to excuse me if i don't have the patience to deal with fools asking trite questions.
I am no fool. And my question was valid. You simply failed to answer it the first time around as you misread my post. Thankfully you got there in the end though.
See above.
I can see very clearly.
As Rowdy Roddy Piper famously stated in John Carpenter's late 80's classic They Live : Mama don't like tattletales
Then go to crimestoppers anonymously if you're worried about it getting out that it was you who reported this man. Though quite what you are going to report him for I'm not sure. But ring them and see how you get along. Nothing ventured, nothing gained as they say.
Maybe, just maybe, vigilantes aren't always a bad thing if we're dealing with people who've abused children. Or even animals for that matter.
I disagree. I prefer the law to deal with such people rather than some baying mob.
This guy is a drug addicted unemployed criminal who makes money by a form of street entertainment which involves children and he's quite often spotted hanging around by schools.
It's not my place to contact the police but i'd simply like to know if he is or isn't.
I would like to know lots of things, like if my neighbour is working while claiming benefits, How much the bloke next door earns, it seems to be a lot. Whether an old neighbour that moved had been sectioned yet. None of these things give ME the right to find out. Just because I would like to know.
If you are concerned about the children as you have stated, then it IS your place to protect them.
I feel you just want to pry into his past and get the DIRT on him, so you can gossip. Your statement above testifies to my reason for my opinion.
Get lynching him, because he is good with children.
Have you seen anything to make you suspicious, apart from the drugs?
Usualy grown up people know that usually has another l in it but i digress. This is the information age and if America has a SOR list which is made public as well as shows like To Catch A Predator then i don't see why we should be so draconian.
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Interestingly even the proposed Sarah's Law does not ask for the right of people like yourself to have access to the SOR info.
But i've never said i have concerns, per se. I just want to know. I'm a sponge for knowledge and gossip.
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I suspect the people who are seriously trying to get this 'law' implemented woud be horrified to discover that you want the information for 'gossip' purposes, if not they should be.
OP - You seem to think this guy is trouble because he is in the company of kids. How do you know they arent his kids -his friends kids - or even related to him. Its people like you that make innocent people wary of interacting with their own, Their friends and familys children!
When are some people going to get it into their thick heads, that the majority of children who are sexually abused in this country, are abused by a family member and not some wierdo hanging around a kiddies playground in a dirty overcoat :rolleyes:
You really should read private eye. A great point was made on their parody of online forums about being suspicious of single men in parks....when it's the men with children we should be wary of....laughing at everyone as they get away with child molesting.
This guy is a drug addicted unemployed criminal who makes money by a form of street entertainment which involves children and he's quite often spotted hanging around by schools.
It's not my place to contact the police but i'd simply like to know if he is or isn't.
Um... So which is it? He's unemployed or earns money through street entertainment which would quite probably need a permit from the council?
As for it not being your place to contact the police... If you, or anyone else actually had genuine grounds to believe someone was grooming or abusing children; NOT saying anything and allowing children to be taken advantage of puts you firmly in cahoots with the paedophile or child abuser...
I have no criminal record and i'm an honest hardworking early 30-something who enjoys goji berries and 80's movies.
But snitching just isn't something that one does. I could end up being victimised and threatened if it got around that i'm running to the police to report people.
Ah, so a wuss then?
If you're so pro the vigilante idea I'd have thought you'd have thrown your berries to the wind and be ardently gripping your baseball bat...
No, he is an unemployed crackhead criminal. Those are facts. It's whether he's a kiddie fiddler that's the rumour.
The facts? See above... Anyway - if anyone else was lending that much credence to the 'rumour' I'd have thought the chap in question would have already met with a serious 'accident' courtesy of all those stupid people you refer to... Or of course the scary, violent, criminal underworld...
When are some people going to get it into their thick heads, that the majority of children who are sexually abused in this country, are abused by a family member and not some wierdo hanging around a kiddies playground in a dirty overcoat :rolleyes:
They will never get it until the media are bought to task on their" a pedo on every corner" approach .
The media have far to much power in this country, its time they were made to use that power wisely
When are some people going to get it into their thick heads, that the majority of children who are sexually abused in this country, are abused by a family member and not some wierdo hanging around a kiddies playground in a dirty overcoat :rolleyes:
How very true. Each individual family this happens to will be informed where the scumbag is released to. Word soon gets around.
This guy is a drug addicted unemployed criminal who makes money by a form of street entertainment which involves children and he's quite often spotted hanging around by schools.
It's not my place to contact the police but i'd simply like to know if he is or isn't.
But for what purpose? I could understand if you were saying that you'd heard a rumour about him & wasn't sure whether to speak to the police. But you're saying you want to check a list/register just to see if he's on it, & then do nothing with the information. That doesn't wash with me, because once you've let the genie out of the bottle you can't put it back in. I think you're either not being honest with people here or you're not being honest with yourself about what you'd do with such information.
But i'm not a snitch and i want to know because his future nickname depends on knowing his paedo status.
So you're not an interested adult concerned about the welfare of children. You're someone who wants to taunt another individual once you've found out whether they're on the register or not, without even a basic knowledge of how the register works. You're talking like a child itching to pick on the new ginger kid in class.
I have no criminal record and i'm an honest hardworking early 30-something who enjoys goji berries and 80's movies.
But snitching just isn't something that one does. I could end up being victimised and threatened if it got around that i'm running to the police to report people.
Oh, but those people would be OK with you verbally (& maybe also physically) attacking someone? If you're in your thirties, you're hiding it amazingly well.
But i've never said i have concerns, per se. I just want to know. I'm a sponge for knowledge and gossip.
"Many a true word spoken in jest". Many of your posts in this thread show why so many people are against the Sex Offenders Register being made public. Intelligence (even supposing it exists in the first place) goes right out of the window when some people struggle with 2+2 & hope it's a multiple-choice question.
I can only assume that the OP is a troll on a wind-up.
However, in case I'm wrong, here's my advice. If you have any genuine reason to suspect that the man in question is a pedophile then you have a duty to the children to report it to the authorities. As has been said, you can do so anonymously through CrimeStoppers.
How would you feel on the slim offchance that you were right and a kid got abused after you'd done nothing to prevent it? I hope you'd be able to sleep at night.
Of course, if you don't have reason to suspect this man then perhaps you should live and let live, eh?
Chester city centre is fairly small. IIRC, virtually all street entertainers perform on the pedestrianised areas of Northgate Street and Eastgate Street.
It's quite possible that people who are familiar with the area will know - or think they might know - this man from the OP's description.
Spreading such a vile rumour about an identifiable person is extremely immature and irresponsible. I'm surprised the mods haven't locked or deleted this thread yet.
I don't know his name and i'm not going to the trouble of taking pictures of him and then going to the benefits office, which i imagine is full of scally vermin and smackheads.
Well, I don't know why you're taking the trouble of posting here--all sorts of weird characters hanging around.:D
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But i've never said i have concerns, per se. I just want to know. I'm a sponge for knowledge and gossip.
Clearly you.
How so?
My position in this matter has been clear since page 1 of the thread. You'll have to excuse me if i don't have the patience to deal with fools asking trite questions.
See above.
As Rowdy Roddy Piper famously stated in John Carpenter's late 80's classic They Live : Mama don't like tattletales
Maybe, just maybe, vigilantes aren't always a bad thing if we're dealing with people who've abused children. Or even animals for that matter.
Usualy grown up people know that usually has another l in it but i digress. This is the information age and if America has a SOR list which is made public as well as shows like To Catch A Predator then i don't see why we should be so draconian.
One only has to review your posts in this thread to see your rather mollycoddled views concerning the rights of poor paedophiles.
I am no fool. And my question was valid. You simply failed to answer it the first time around as you misread my post. Thankfully you got there in the end though.
I can see very clearly.
Then go to crimestoppers anonymously if you're worried about it getting out that it was you who reported this man. Though quite what you are going to report him for I'm not sure. But ring them and see how you get along. Nothing ventured, nothing gained as they say.
I disagree. I prefer the law to deal with such people rather than some baying mob.
I would like to know lots of things, like if my neighbour is working while claiming benefits, How much the bloke next door earns, it seems to be a lot. Whether an old neighbour that moved had been sectioned yet. None of these things give ME the right to find out. Just because I would like to know.
If you are concerned about the children as you have stated, then it IS your place to protect them.
I feel you just want to pry into his past and get the DIRT on him, so you can gossip. Your statement above testifies to my reason for my opinion.
Get lynching him, because he is good with children.
Have you seen anything to make you suspicious, apart from the drugs?
Does one indeed?
Strange that, seeing as I've never said anything of the sort.
Interestingly even the proposed Sarah's Law does not ask for the right of people like yourself to have access to the SOR info.
http://www.sarahslaw.co.uk/
I suspect the people who are seriously trying to get this 'law' implemented woud be horrified to discover that you want the information for 'gossip' purposes, if not they should be.
Wierdo!
BURN HIM!
I wish. I'd have more money then. Unfortunately for me, and also for your ironic character, I'm not, and I've met many criminals in my life.
Um... So which is it? He's unemployed or earns money through street entertainment which would quite probably need a permit from the council?
As for it not being your place to contact the police... If you, or anyone else actually had genuine grounds to believe someone was grooming or abusing children; NOT saying anything and allowing children to be taken advantage of puts you firmly in cahoots with the paedophile or child abuser...
Ah, so a wuss then?
If you're so pro the vigilante idea I'd have thought you'd have thrown your berries to the wind and be ardently gripping your baseball bat...
Yep... As Wokstation said... A really, REALLY compelling argument as to why the SOR should never be in the public domain... Excellently done...
The facts? See above... Anyway - if anyone else was lending that much credence to the 'rumour' I'd have thought the chap in question would have already met with a serious 'accident' courtesy of all those stupid people you refer to... Or of course the scary, violent, criminal underworld...
They will never get it until the media are bought to task on their" a pedo on every corner" approach .
The media have far to much power in this country, its time they were made to use that power wisely
How very true. Each individual family this happens to will be informed where the scumbag is released to. Word soon gets around.
So you're not an interested adult concerned about the welfare of children. You're someone who wants to taunt another individual once you've found out whether they're on the register or not, without even a basic knowledge of how the register works. You're talking like a child itching to pick on the new ginger kid in class.
Oh, but those people would be OK with you verbally (& maybe also physically) attacking someone? If you're in your thirties, you're hiding it amazingly well.
Some would describe you in exactly the same way. It's to your credit that you seem to agree with them, & are open with your self-loathing.
"Many a true word spoken in jest". Many of your posts in this thread show why so many people are against the Sex Offenders Register being made public. Intelligence (even supposing it exists in the first place) goes right out of the window when some people struggle with 2+2 & hope it's a multiple-choice question.
However, in case I'm wrong, here's my advice. If you have any genuine reason to suspect that the man in question is a pedophile then you have a duty to the children to report it to the authorities. As has been said, you can do so anonymously through CrimeStoppers.
How would you feel on the slim offchance that you were right and a kid got abused after you'd done nothing to prevent it? I hope you'd be able to sleep at night.
Of course, if you don't have reason to suspect this man then perhaps you should live and let live, eh?
It's quite possible that people who are familiar with the area will know - or think they might know - this man from the OP's description.
Spreading such a vile rumour about an identifiable person is extremely immature and irresponsible. I'm surprised the mods haven't locked or deleted this thread yet.
Well, I don't know why you're taking the trouble of posting here--all sorts of weird characters hanging around.:D