If anyone has listened to the show, they would hear Russell leaving an answerphone message to Mr Sachs about not appearing on the show and then carried out a one-sided interview about his new show, during which Jonathan piped up with the line about his granddaughter. If anything, Russell had nothing to do with it. What I don't understand is why the profanity wasn't bleeped as it usually is, or the offensive segment edited out.
They have both now apologised and I think that's as far as it should go. If anyone hasn't heard it, please listen to it before passing judgement.
If people would actually listen to the entire incident they'd realise that the phone calls were perfectly harmless and were making light of the fact that Sachs' grand-daughter gets hired out to do weird gothic dances in peoples' homes, is all.
And I have to laugh at the way the news has completely blown out of proportion the "suicide" comments.
Andrew sachs has long since been out of the public eye,and living a quite life ,perhaps they should have chosen one of their peers rather then a 78 year old.
This just goes to show you know nothing about what actually happened!
He was booked as a guest on the show - Andrew Sachs was there to promote something.
He gave them his telephone number, through which to conduct the interview, then refused to answer their calls.
You're just buying the Daily Mail version of events.
By the way channel 4 said the regulators had recieved around,1,500 compliants so far.
Ofcom takes into account how many their receive after the press get the story and discount them.
Look at any number of high profile cases in Ofcom's past and you will see that.
Reports suggest there were only 2 complaints after the incident until the Dialy Mail got their grubby hands on it and made it into something it wasn't.
The BBC has launched a review into its programme clearance procedures after receiving over 500 complaints about an episode of Russell Brand's Radio 2 programme where he and Jonathan Ross left a series of crude voicemails on Fawlty Towers star Andrew Sachs' mobile.
The corporation has also issued a formal apology to Sachs "for the offence caused".
546 people so far have complained to the BBC about the broadcast, which went out on Saturday, October 18. During the broadcast, Ross suggested that Brand had "f**ked" Sachs' granddaughter and the pair subsequently joked that the actor might kill himself.
"We have received a letter of a complaint from Mr Sachs' agent and would like to sincerely apologise to Mr Sachs for the offence caused," the BBC said in a statement. "We recognise that some of the content broadcast was unacceptable and offensive.
"We are reviewing how this came about and are responding to Mr Sachs personally. We also apologise to listeners for any offence caused."
These two are an absolute disgrace. They are not clever or funny. And its absolutely mistifying why the British public allow the BBC to spend millions of licence payers money employing these two talentless overpaid cretins.
Please leave a message here to get Ross and Brand off our screens and Radios. And we will forward this thread to the BBC. Thankyou.
Oh come on where is your sense of humor it was funny:D
These two are an absolute disgrace. They are not clever or funny. And its absolutely mistifying why the British public allow the BBC to spend millions of licence payers money employing these two talentless overpaid cretins.
Please leave a message here to get Ross and Brand off our screens and Radios. And we will forward this thread to the BBC. Thankyou.
I actually beg to differ. I find this extremely funny, and very clever!
Fact is, Chris Moyles and other stations (Like Rock FM) have done the same... everyone is just throwing a paddy because its Brand and Ross.
Brand is also known for doing stuff like this. God knows what Ross was thinking, but it was DAMN funny. Hillarious, infact, and I stand in 100% support of this whole prank.
At the end of the day, its not you they are offending, so why take it upon yourself to view dismay about it?
Another instance of people trying to be Politically Correct? NO THANKS...
Theres no boundaries in comedy, and thats something people need to get over.
I actually beg to differ. I find this extremely funny, and very clever!
Fact is, Chris Moyles and other stations (Like Rock FM) have done the same... everyone is just throwing a paddy because its Brand and Ross.
Brand is also known for doing stuff like this. God knows what Ross was thinking, but it was DAMN funny. Hillarious, infact, and I stand in 100% support of this whole prank.
At the end of the day, its not you they are offending, so why take it upon yourself to view dismay about it?
Another instance of people trying to be Politically Correct? NO THANKS...
Theres no boundaries in comedy, and thats something people need to get over.
Well it appears the police are not taking it so lightly and may bring charges.
This just goes to show you know nothing about what actually happened!
He was booked as a guest on the show - Andrew Sachs was there to promote something.
He gave them his telephone number, through which to conduct the interview, then refused to answer their calls.
You're just buying the Daily Mail version of events.
Yes andrew sachs may have been there to promote something, i am aware although you say i was not, of how they got his number.
He may have not answerd their call, However i know of many 78 year olds with memory loss,i work in the nhs so am aware of that happening.Even if you are not.
Please look at the bigger picture,which is what happened after he did not answer their calls.It was not nice.
By the way you are very rude. in saying"This goes to show you know nothing about what actually happened"
If i may say so this comment could have been one of mr rosses!
By the way channel 4 said the regulators had recieved around,1,500 compliants so far.
But how many of them actually heard the programme? few if any. There was nothing about this in the week after it happened, now everyone's up in arms just because it was in the paper. Where were all the complaints and outrage last week? :rolleyes:
It was a lapse in editorial judgment, but if any heads should roll over it then they should be the ones of the producer(s) not the presenters... this is exactly the sort of thing that producers are paid for!
Well it appears the police are not taking it so lightly and may bring charges.
I'm sure when the police actually listen to the messages they will realise how innocent and funny the messages are and how nice they are to him, despite the fact he refused to conduct a pre-arranged interview with them.
Well we can see the people that suport the BBC are as disgusting as these employees of the BBC.
Are you seriouly say you regarded it as aceptable for them to make filthy disgusting phone calls? Because any sane person word not.
Have you actually read what was said?
Not isolated comments or "they hinted this..", but the actual words?
No-one would describe those messages as flithy and disgusting.
They took the joke way too far, but it was light-hearted and funny- they did not do it offend him. They were having a joke with him - though they took it a bit too far and as a result Andrew Sachs does not seem to see the funny side.
Chris Moyles, seeing as you mention him, is another in the same vein as Wossy and Brand.
These people should not be let loose on the airwaves, and the incident in question was appalling. Brand is not a comedian, he is a child who is given lots of money by the BBC to do what the hell he wants. Wossy is little better, and he did apologise early on but still carried on with these calls.
The problem is that many other DJ's on smaller stations will do the same thing, because they now think it's OK. It ISN'T. The BBC/Ofcom/whoever must treat these two with the punishment they deserve.
Sack them now. There are plenty good broadcasters out there who will fill their shoes.
Anybody who finds this, or them, funny is just as bad.
The Russell Brand show is recorded i think, which bosses at the BBC have to listen to before putting out on air, so someone made a huge mistake by approve this for airtime
But how many of them actually heard the programme? few if any. There was nothing about this in the week after it happened, now everyone's up in arms just because it was in the paper. Where were all the complaints and outrage last week? :rolleyes:
It was a lapse in editorial judgment, but if any heads should roll over it then they should be the ones of the producer(s) not the presenters... this is exactly the sort of thing that producers are paid for!
I agree 100/% i said in an earlier posting they should not be sacked.
The people at the bbc who agreed to it ie,the editorial staff should be.
Although mr ross getting many millions of pounds out of us via the beeb,should for that kind of money have shown better judgement.
What are people like Russell Brand and Dermot O'Leary doing on Radio 2 anyway? They are more suited to Radio 1. I miss the old-style "easy listening" Radio 2 and James Moir should never have been allowed to get his hands on the station.
They do what they like cuz Joe/Josephine public has to pay all the bills and like it. Do you really think the BBC cares what you and I think? nahhhh you pay up on your License fee or we will put you in prison is the motto at the Beeb. its a sad fact that this is what happens when you let a public broadcaster with no revenue to find and lots of money to pay its 5 star celebrities repays the punters
Oh, and as for Brand and Ross' actions, I'll sign this petition as both should go. Whilst I've only read the papers' account of what happened to go on, it's disgraceful that a senior producer allowed their prank to go out on air.
They do what they like cuz Joe/Josephine public has to pay all the bills and like it. Do you really think the BBC cares what you and I think? nahhhh you pay up on your License fee or we will put you in prison is the motto at the Beeb. its a sad fact that this is what happens when you let a public broadcaster with no revenue to find and lots of money to pay its 5 star celebrities repays the punters
They only pay Jonathan Ross £6m a year to do 2 TV shows and a radio show.
That is a tiny, tiny fraction of the licence fee and if they werent paying him that they would need to pay someone to take over the radio show, someone to take over Film 200? and then find 35 hours of Friday night programming per year - that would cost a hell of a lot more than £6m.
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They have both now apologised and I think that's as far as it should go. If anyone hasn't heard it, please listen to it before passing judgement.
Burn them at the stake !!!! :-)
Well said. This whole thing is ludicrous.
Phazer
He was booked as a guest on the show - Andrew Sachs was there to promote something.
He gave them his telephone number, through which to conduct the interview, then refused to answer their calls.
You're just buying the Daily Mail version of events.
Look at any number of high profile cases in Ofcom's past and you will see that.
Reports suggest there were only 2 complaints after the incident until the Dialy Mail got their grubby hands on it and made it into something it wasn't.
Oh come on where is your sense of humor it was funny:D
I actually beg to differ. I find this extremely funny, and very clever!
Fact is, Chris Moyles and other stations (Like Rock FM) have done the same... everyone is just throwing a paddy because its Brand and Ross.
Brand is also known for doing stuff like this. God knows what Ross was thinking, but it was DAMN funny. Hillarious, infact, and I stand in 100% support of this whole prank.
At the end of the day, its not you they are offending, so why take it upon yourself to view dismay about it?
Another instance of people trying to be Politically Correct? NO THANKS...
Theres no boundaries in comedy, and thats something people need to get over.
Well we can see the people that suport the BBC are as disgusting as these employees of the BBC.
Are you seriouly say you regarded it as aceptable for them to make filthy disgusting phone calls? Because any sane person word not.
Well it appears the police are not taking it so lightly and may bring charges.
Yes andrew sachs may have been there to promote something, i am aware although you say i was not, of how they got his number.
He may have not answerd their call, However i know of many 78 year olds with memory loss,i work in the nhs so am aware of that happening.Even if you are not.
Please look at the bigger picture,which is what happened after he did not answer their calls.It was not nice.
By the way you are very rude. in saying"This goes to show you know nothing about what actually happened"
If i may say so this comment could have been one of mr rosses!
But how many of them actually heard the programme? few if any. There was nothing about this in the week after it happened, now everyone's up in arms just because it was in the paper. Where were all the complaints and outrage last week? :rolleyes:
It was a lapse in editorial judgment, but if any heads should roll over it then they should be the ones of the producer(s) not the presenters... this is exactly the sort of thing that producers are paid for!
Not isolated comments or "they hinted this..", but the actual words?
No-one would describe those messages as flithy and disgusting.
They took the joke way too far, but it was light-hearted and funny- they did not do it offend him. They were having a joke with him - though they took it a bit too far and as a result Andrew Sachs does not seem to see the funny side.
These people should not be let loose on the airwaves, and the incident in question was appalling. Brand is not a comedian, he is a child who is given lots of money by the BBC to do what the hell he wants. Wossy is little better, and he did apologise early on but still carried on with these calls.
The problem is that many other DJ's on smaller stations will do the same thing, because they now think it's OK. It ISN'T. The BBC/Ofcom/whoever must treat these two with the punishment they deserve.
Sack them now. There are plenty good broadcasters out there who will fill their shoes.
Anybody who finds this, or them, funny is just as bad.
Cheers,
Steve P.
Yes sack the both of them
I agree 100/% i said in an earlier posting they should not be sacked.
The people at the bbc who agreed to it ie,the editorial staff should be.
Although mr ross getting many millions of pounds out of us via the beeb,should for that kind of money have shown better judgement.
what is wrong with people these days?
you can't say anything
Its all this political correctness crap - you cant even tell a joke on the radio now without some nutcase phoning Ofcom.
That is a tiny, tiny fraction of the licence fee and if they werent paying him that they would need to pay someone to take over the radio show, someone to take over Film 200? and then find 35 hours of Friday night programming per year - that would cost a hell of a lot more than £6m.
That just about sums up this forum.