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Israel/Palestine - who actually gives a damn anymore?
daniel halliday
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we were talking earlier and the oh said why should we care?, let them reduce each other to martyrs,neither side wants peace so just let them get on with it, now i thought that was an isolated opinion but i have heard similar sentiments from friends,family ect who feel that this countries problems are what is important, not the actions of two countries full of idiots who wish to cause WW3 and drag everyone into it,
sick of the overkill on the news also, i am more interested in hearing the scum who killed that kid in london have been locked up than something i don't even lose sleep over,
sick of the overkill on the news also, i am more interested in hearing the scum who killed that kid in london have been locked up than something i don't even lose sleep over,
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The fact that Gaza is the most crowded place on earth ?
The fact that over a 100 hundred women and children have been killed by Israeli missile strikes in the past 6 days ?
And the world is not doing anything to stop the war crimes being committed by the Israeli government ?
Do you really not care ?
Whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation, are you SERIOUSLY more concerned about one guy who gets killed than, well, LOADS of people getting killed, just because they're further away?
"Overkill on the news". Yeah, because a bunch of people dying isn't actually all that interesting, is it? Come on. Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand being a bit naughty on the radio? Now, THAT was "overkill on the news". FFS.
fact is that most people who are comfortable with their lives, simply do not care about africans dying, palestinians dying..etc..as long as their TV works, thats enough.
The people don't realise their own collective power, they are letting a handful of people rule their lives, feed them what to eat, to watch, to even think what is right and wrong. Slave mentality.
So, no people don't care, not unless its one of their own who has been killed..etc. This is the way the system wants it, the way it runs, divide and rule. Thats why the Muslim nations have been spilt and pitted against each other, so that they don't unite as a collective and continue fighting because they are not Muslims, they are Sunnis, Shias, Arabs, Afghanistani's, Pakistani's..etc.
The Media is playing a big role in this, too much of everything is bad, even bad news, they know people will get tired and eventually forget about it, which they do.
David Kelly was murdered by the government and then made to look like he topped himself, even his own wife was blind to this (from what I read in the papers, it is the truth).
We are all being taken for a ride, innocent people are being killed, sadly nothing will be done about it, why? because we are not working as a collective.
Well, Hey Hey Hey, its a New Year, a New Start, so lets forget about everything, get drunk out of our brains and start the New Year with a Big BANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Happy New Year, Jesus is 2009 years old now....wow
its not my problem to be honest as i'm sure there are many others who would agree, what i'm worried about though is rising crime,the economy and if i'm going to still have a job so i can pay my bills, and may i add i WAS referring to the little child who has died at the GOSH which may be attributed to his parents not some random smackhead, yes i don't care about it all because it does not affect me, let them kick the shit out of each other, there will NEVER be peace in that part of the middle east,
jews hate arabs and vice versa, nothing will change the status quo,
That said, I do care. Not about the morons in charge if this fiasco, they can all go hang as far as I am concerned, but I do care about the people who are used as pawns in this stupid, never-ending game which nobody ever wins.
The people of Gaza have enough difficulty with having a gang of thugs as a "government" without being bombed as well. They are blockaded by their "friends" as much as their enemies. It is all very well for Israel to point out that a missile was illegally launched from a site but does anybody think that the Hamas "government" asks the poor sod who owns the site before they use it. And, of course, they will be long gone before the retaliation.
There has never been a war won solely with missiles or bombs. Neither side is going to get anywhere. They are all idiots. I care about the victims, but I am not going to listen to their leaders' pathetic excuses. I'll just chuck a few quid towards the reputable aid agencies and hope that it does a little bit of good.
Bit rich when your own country has no problem invading Iraq and Afghanistan causing misery.
how is it a bit rich, we never got a say in the invasions of iraq/afghanistan, tony blair wanted a war,he wanted dead heros or as he put it a blooding, he got what he wanted and made us a target for every walking terrorist scumbag, most in the uk including i believe the military never wanted to go to war,
let israe;/palestine fight it out, who cares, certainly not i, as another posters said its like groundhog day,
The Palestinians voted for Hamas, a terrorist organisation, so they knew what they were getting. No use moaning when Hamas do as they say they will and no use complaining when the Israelis decide to give them hell.
They were cheering and dancing in the streets then they aren't now!
You could also argue that they were given elections to make a choice, they made their choice but the choice was taken away from them as their opportunity to gain a "voice" was removed. So much for democracy eh?
There will be a national demonstration in London tomorrow, Saturday, January 3rd, assembling 12.30 pm Embankment
Here are more details:
http://www.stopwar.org.uk/
Despite huge protests, don't blame the people of this country for what the political classes do. Since when have governments listened to peoples opinions away from election time?
You must be desperate if you're trying to recruit digital spy members. Haven't you hired enough rentamob already ?
But as with the rest of life there will always be some who care and some who don't.
Whether it's happening here or there isn't relevant anymore - so many things are connected up in this world that everything no matter how remote or insignificant can always be found to be relevant in some sort of way.
They certainly don't all want to blow each other to smithereens - you do know how many millions of people live in that region? It's not as if they all have the same mentality, line of thinking. They are just as we are, various attitudes, levels of moderation, warmongering and those striving for peace.
A very difficult situation - what is the great Tony Blair, as our Middle East Envoy, doing about it just now?
How many people from Gaza have written to the UK government to request they urgently do something to stop the 22 murders from stabbings that took place in London alone during 2008?
Gaza is obviously your own personal little crusade, but that doesn't mean everyone else has to cry about it all day long.
What do you idiots plan to do? What do you plan to acheive? You do realise that the general population think you're just a bunch of bored, hippy students who've read far too many books to see past your rose tinted glasses and actually live in the real world?
You will not end war not matter how many flower-power protests you waste your time on. Use your mind, as I'm sure you have one in there somewhere, and try to put it to good use. If you're so passionate about democracy and peace, stand for MP or councillor. Two things will be achieved then;
You won't be a hypocrite, like you are now, by demonstrating in a supposedly modern, democratic nation,
You will see just how much people agree with you...
And finally, come to think of it, if you do win an election that way, you'll be able to actually start making a difference.
What did that achieve? Absolutely f**k all.
Does anyone really think a few thousand people marching in London trying to tell the Israeli government what to do will have any effect on anything whatsoever?
No wonder it didn't work. One million out of a population of sixty million = shy under 2% of the UK population. Clearly 98% of the population had more important things to do that day.
True, but it's more likely to work than a couple of thousand people in London having a moan at Israel.
How does insulting me help anybody?
How does a bunch of rich-kid students screaming "outrage" outside Whitehall help anybody? Maybe me and Malice Cooper can strike one down for common sense and help the good people of London get a good night-sleep and a happy day free of disruption by getting you lot to stop your stupid hippy antics.
How can you read this and not care???
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSLS69391620090102?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews