Nooo! Don't know if any xfiles fans are here but I always remember a certain mad episode where it was set in a gated community and it put me off forever.
Also I wouldn't like nosey neighbours watching everything I did to my property and being annoyed if I painted the front door a colour not suitable, or putting the wrong type of flowers in the garden. Lol I would be the person, who would rock the boat just for the sake of it, I hate too many rules.
Fair enough, but that's not what "gated community" is generally taken to mean. What's the point of them if anyone can get in? Or can you only get into your own, and not other people's? Doesn't that just mean you end up with an almost literal caste system, everyone stuck in their own "level"?
Edit: Ah, you answered most of this. It means only the members of the community get to commit crimes within it
Of course I only have a key to enter the urbanization that I live in. As for the "caste" question I just don't understand. If it's a class issue, well it's very different here to than in the UK.
Security is answer. It makes it a lot harder to rob houses, and children can play outside in their play areas knowing that weirdos from outside don't have access to them.
So you would say that all these people are weirdos:
Smokers
Junkies
Heavy drinkers
Unemployed people
Malingerers on long-term sickness benefit
Anyone with a criminal record
I would say that, that is judgemental. Just because someone is one of the above doesn't mean that they will steal from your house or interfere with your children or are anymore likely to do than anybody else.
So you would say that all these people are weirdos:
I would say that, that is judgemental. Just because someone is one of the above doesn't mean that they will steal from your house or interfere with your children or are anymore likely to do than anybody else.
I wouldn't say any of those are weirdos and I am bemused why you think I would.
Nooo! Don't know if any xfiles fans are here but I always remember a certain mad episode where it was set in a gated community and it put me off forever.
Also I wouldn't like nosey neighbours watching everything I did to my property and being annoyed if I painted the front door a colour not suitable, or putting the wrong type of flowers in the garden. Lol I would be the person, who would rock the boat just for the sake of it, I hate too many rules.
That episode was on this week. :eek: I agree with you. There are enough residents' rules in my building already.
Of course I only have a key to enter the urbanization that I live in. As for the "caste" question I just don't understand. If it's a class issue, well it's very different here to than in the UK.
Possibly! Yeah, it's a class thing, I suppose. It just seems to me like it would really limit the number of people, and the number of different kinds of people, you interacted with.
(And don't people get attacked for their keys, if they live in the "better" urbanizations?)
I think that people who want to live in gated communities should be barred from making a living off the people outside the gates. I'd ban them from working outside, going to our hospitals, using our schools, colleges and libraries and driving on our roads.
If these people think life would be better without having to deal with the rest of us, believe me, the feeling is entirely mutual. Lock yourselves up and starve. I don't care.
I'm not really sure living in a gated community would be very good to be honest, as it would likely just turn out to be one massive clique. Anything happened and it would just get covered up, and if anyone dared to speak out of the said atrocity, they'd get shunned by the rest of them and be forced to leave.
I wouldn't say any of those are weirdos and I am bemused why you think I would.
Well, that is the OPs thread.. she wants to live in a gated community without those people.. and since you agreed with the proposition.. it is as well to ask you who you class as weirdos.
Well, that is the OPs thread.. she wants to live in a gated community without those people.. and since you agreed with the proposition.. it is as well to ask you who you class as weirdos.
At no point did I agree to the reasons she gave which I think are ridiculous.
At no point did I agree to the reasons she gave which I think are ridiculous.
Well, you did call me judgemental for not wishing to live in a community where the above people were judged and excluded.. so I assumed you must have agreed with her.
Well, you did call me judgemental for not wishing to live in a community where the above people were judged and excluded.. so I assumed you must have agreed with her.
Absolutely not, as I said even those living in the cheapest of flats here are living in gated communities.
I think there are huge difference between what gated communities are and stand for in the UK, and what they are and stand for here. Here in Playa San Juan everyone lives in gated communities, rich and poor, high-flying and unemployed.
Security is answer. It makes it a lot harder to rob houses, and children can play outside in their play areas knowing that weirdos from outside don't have access to them.
How would you sort out the weirdos from the non weirdos?
How would you sort out the weirdos from the non weirdos?
How difficult can it be to comprehend. Anyone that would prey on children is a weirdo. If they don't have access to the children whilst then are in their play area then that's a good thing in my opinion. The problem would arise if and when a paedophile lived in the same community as the kids.
How difficult can it be to comprehend. Anyone that would prey on children is a weirdo. If they don't have access to the children whilst then are in their play area then that's a good thing in my opinion. The problem would arise if and when a paedophile lived in the same community as the kids.
How do you know that they would prey on children? Do they wear a badge saying 'I like kiddies'?
There's one thing that puzzles me about this gated community thing, and that's that who's going to be accepted for being able to live in them as part of the 'neighbourhood'?
How difficult can it be tocomprehend. Anyone that would prey on children is a weirdo. If they don't have access to the children whilst then are in their play area then that's a good thing in my opinion. The problem would arise if and when a paedophile lived in the same community as the kids.
How do you know that they would prey on children? Do they wear a badge saying 'I like kiddies'?
I would have no idea, but then I am not selecting them am I. I really think you are deliberately missing the point. If children are playing in a dedicated play area that is within their gated community then they are safer than if they were playing in an area where anyone could prey on them. How difficult a concept can be for this to understand.
The people who live in the community (whether it be a tower block, or a set of houses) would be the only ones with access to the interior of the unbanization.
I cannot grasp why you are turning this into elitist argument, when it is so not that.
There's one thing that puzzles me about this gated community thing, and that's that who's going to be accepted for being able to live in them as part of the 'neighbourhood'?
All I know is about where I live. There is not "accepting", you either buy or rent a place in one. Same as buying or renting a place in the UK. Again this is trying to put an elitist spin on something where it doesn't exist. To repeat. All of the communities in this suburb are gated.
I would have no idea, but then I am not selecting them am I. I really think you are deliberately missing the point. If children are playing in a dedicated play area that is within their gated community then they are safer than if they were playing in an area where anyone could prey on them. How difficult a concept can be for this to understand.
The people who live in the community (whether it be a tower block, or a set of houses) would be the only ones with access to the interior of the unbanization.
I cannot grasp why you are turning this into elitist argument, when it is so not that.
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Also I wouldn't like nosey neighbours watching everything I did to my property and being annoyed if I painted the front door a colour not suitable, or putting the wrong type of flowers in the garden. Lol I would be the person, who would rock the boat just for the sake of it, I hate too many rules.
Of course I only have a key to enter the urbanization that I live in. As for the "caste" question I just don't understand. If it's a class issue, well it's very different here to than in the UK.
So you would say that all these people are weirdos:
I would say that, that is judgemental. Just because someone is one of the above doesn't mean that they will steal from your house or interfere with your children or are anymore likely to do than anybody else.
I wouldn't say any of those are weirdos and I am bemused why you think I would.
That episode was on this week. :eek: I agree with you. There are enough residents' rules in my building already.
(And don't people get attacked for their keys, if they live in the "better" urbanizations?)
If these people think life would be better without having to deal with the rest of us, believe me, the feeling is entirely mutual. Lock yourselves up and starve. I don't care.
I did a search as I'm sure I'd read something about gated communites on here before.
Spooky :eek: I will have to watch it, it's been years since I have seen it.
At no point did I agree to the reasons she gave which I think are ridiculous.
I'd live in a gated society, so long as the only people it excluded were the self-righteous, the sanctimonious and the judgemental.
Absolutely not, as I said even those living in the cheapest of flats here are living in gated communities.
I think there are huge difference between what gated communities are and stand for in the UK, and what they are and stand for here. Here in Playa San Juan everyone lives in gated communities, rich and poor, high-flying and unemployed.
How would you sort out the weirdos from the non weirdos?
How difficult can it be to comprehend. Anyone that would prey on children is a weirdo. If they don't have access to the children whilst then are in their play area then that's a good thing in my opinion. The problem would arise if and when a paedophile lived in the same community as the kids.
This difficult:
I would have no idea, but then I am not selecting them am I. I really think you are deliberately missing the point. If children are playing in a dedicated play area that is within their gated community then they are safer than if they were playing in an area where anyone could prey on them. How difficult a concept can be for this to understand.
The people who live in the community (whether it be a tower block, or a set of houses) would be the only ones with access to the interior of the unbanization.
I cannot grasp why you are turning this into elitist argument, when it is so not that.
All I know is about where I live. There is not "accepting", you either buy or rent a place in one. Same as buying or renting a place in the UK. Again this is trying to put an elitist spin on something where it doesn't exist. To repeat. All of the communities in this suburb are gated.
Who is selecting them?