Walkers have apparently sold multibags containing individual packs weighing only 25g to enough customers that they have allegedly generated large amounts of profit.
Using the OP's logic that 'defines' the multibag as containing smaller than standard packs.
So everything is ok - we don't have to worry about cost per gram, a 'bag' has been defined, we can all be happy :rolleyes:
in court, a contract has to be 'transparently' clear - irrespective of any 'small print' - there has to be evidence of a 'meeting of the minds' to ensure both parties are 'transparently' clear about what is being sold - the onus is on the seller to make sure the buyer *knows* what they are buying
the reasons for this *should* be obvious (although i fear it wont be to some) - it's because it is inherently *wrong* to mis-sell
hence Tesco were forced to withdraw lot of their breakfast cereal, just because they used the same colour scheme as famous brand, and as such the customer 'might' buy Tesco cereal 'beleiving' they had bought a familiar brand
this is all despite the fact it says "TESCO" right on front of box
If customer took Walkers to court over selling smaller bags of crisps then they thought they were buying - walkers would have to prove to judges satisfaction that the customer clearly understood what they buying
Walkers would not have a snowball in hell - the 'bags' are too similar to be 'distinct' - in fact they prolly even same size just filled differently
of course this wont happen - because nobody takes 'a bag' of crisps into court - but that wont make it any less wrong
This really is the most ludicrous thread I have ever had the misfortune of reading. And I've read some tripe!
Crisps are crisps. They cost what they cost. It's time to move on. Try concerning yourself with more important matters.....Like the fact that Wham Bars are smaller than they used to be.
If customer took Walkers to court over selling smaller bags of crisps then they thought they were buying - walkers would have to prove to judges satisfaction that the customer clearly understood what they buying
Walkers would not have a snowball in hell - the 'bags' are too similar to be 'distinct' - in fact they prolly even same size just filled differently
Guess what, this is why the weight of the bags is printed on the pack.
e.g 6x25g on a multipack & 34.5g on a single pack
Is 'probably' the same size the best you can do? - don't you know? - can you really not tell the difference between a multipack & a single pack? (Clue - the multipack is the one with more than one bag in ....)
I'd stop replying to this thread peeps (yes, I see the irony ) - OP won't listen to reason, and this shouty thread is getting in the way of all the usual food loveliness.
...Tesco were forced to withdraw lot of their breakfast cereal, just because they used the same colour scheme as famous brand, and as such the customer 'might' buy Tesco cereal 'beleiving' they had bought a familiar brand
this is all despite the fact it says "TESCO" right on front of box
hasn;t everything got smaller but for the same price or more money. There really are more important things to worry about. And if its such a problem for you why not just write to Walkers and see what they say... and I;m out of this thread phew
I used to always say that Wagon Wheels had got smaller than when I was young. My dad said that when I used to eat them my hands were smaller & they were the same size.:o
Forget this scam, the worst thing about Walkers is that they have the wrong coloured bags for Cheese & Onion and Salt & Vinegar crisps. They're the wrong way around.
Same reason printing "TESCO" in ***huge**** writing doesn't make them aware they're buying TESCO cereals
if you dont 'get it' - i cant help it
but we'll just have to accept that *you* dont understand
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You raised the question of the customer taking Walkers to court in respect of the customer understanding what they were buying.
The weight declaration on the packs is governed by legislation - and would be dealt with by the court on that basis. (finding in favour of Walkers complying with legislation)
Your assertion regarding similar designs being misleading is irrelevant, because multipacks are not similar to individual packs.
If you want to discuss similar designs, then start another thread - multipacks are not similar to individual packs, so this isn't germane to the discussion.
Forget this scam, the worst thing about Walkers is that they have the wrong coloured bags for Cheese & Onion and Salt & Vinegar crisps. They're the wrong way around.
I *still* find that annoying. Years of going by Smiths & Golden Wonder colours, I guess.
There is really no point in continuing this thread. The OP is a WUM.
They have not provided any evidence to back up their original accusations. They have made outrageous statements saying the Walkers are giving backhanders to 'Weights and Measures' to ensure that they are not investigated. They also say that Walkers earn an extra £75million profit on multipacks alone (not any other products) and tell us that the majority of people who buy multipacks are not aware that they are smaller bags (this seems even more ridiculous, being that the majority of people on this thread have said that they know exactly what they are buying and eating).
They have not even contacted Walkers to ask them to respond to the accusations. They have not contacted Trading Standards to complain about this either.
They continue with their short sighted campaign and either ignore requests for evidence to back up their story or simply misquote other posters whilst telling people that they because their view is not the same as the OP then they must be in the wrong.
Bearing in mind that the OP did not even know the weight of a bag of Walkers crisps, yet they tell you that Walkers have 'defined' what the weight of a bag of crisps is.
In addition, their 'interesting' way of highlighting a word by adding **'s instead of using the bold or italic facility and by writing FACT, even when they have not been able to prove their statement shows poor form.
Their inability to accept another persons argument only highlights why we should not listen to any further nonsense from them.
tbh all poster are struggling to string something coherent together - but just feel like they should post *something*, any garbage will do, and then they wonder why i poop on it
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You can't give me ***one** single example - i rest my case and should it be there for all to find in the the bowels of google forever!
ditto - not ***one*** single tangible reason
you're both out
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Still waiting for you to prove the highlighted section.
Using the OP's logic that 'defines' the multibag as containing smaller than standard packs.
So everything is ok - we don't have to worry about cost per gram, a 'bag' has been defined, we can all be happy :rolleyes:
the reasons for this *should* be obvious (although i fear it wont be to some) - it's because it is inherently *wrong* to mis-sell
hence Tesco were forced to withdraw lot of their breakfast cereal, just because they used the same colour scheme as famous brand, and as such the customer 'might' buy Tesco cereal 'beleiving' they had bought a familiar brand
this is all despite the fact it says "TESCO" right on front of box
If customer took Walkers to court over selling smaller bags of crisps then they thought they were buying - walkers would have to prove to judges satisfaction that the customer clearly understood what they buying
Walkers would not have a snowball in hell - the 'bags' are too similar to be 'distinct' - in fact they prolly even same size just filled differently
of course this wont happen - because nobody takes 'a bag' of crisps into court - but that wont make it any less wrong
Crisps are crisps. They cost what they cost. It's time to move on. Try concerning yourself with more important matters.....Like the fact that Wham Bars are smaller than they used to be.
Now thats something to get worked up about!
Let's see you take Walkers to court then.
Come on, put your money where your mouth is !
Crisp-Gate!! - The saga continues
Guess what, this is why the weight of the bags is printed on the pack.
e.g 6x25g on a multipack & 34.5g on a single pack
Is 'probably' the same size the best you can do? - don't you know? - can you really not tell the difference between a multipack & a single pack? (Clue - the multipack is the one with more than one bag in ....)
Irrelevant - read em and weep:
like i say - you're done already
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you mean the OP wont listen to under-educated garbage spouters
although i can't imagine why :rolleyes:
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Please explain why printing the weight on the packs doesn't make the customer aware of what they are buying.
Please explain how it is possible for someone to be not aware that a big bag containing many smaller bags is different from buying a single bag.
Please explain how a big bag containing many smaller bags is 'too similar to be distinct' from a single bag.
- the irrelevance is you introducing the concept of similar designs for similar products - multipacks are not similar to single packs.
Do try to stick to the point of the thread - especially as it was you that started it ....
I used to always say that Wagon Wheels had got smaller than when I was young. My dad said that when I used to eat them my hands were smaller & they were the same size.:o
Same reason printing "TESCO" in ***huge**** writing doesn't make them aware they're buying TESCO cereals
if you dont 'get it' - i cant help it
but we'll just have to accept that *you* dont understand
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http://www.britstore.co.uk/Crisps-and-Snacks-Walkers-Crisps-Walkers-Cheese-and-Onion-Crisps/c66_69_1223/p2081/Walkers-Cheese-and-Onion-Crisps-48-x-34.5g-Pack-Box/product_info.html?osCsid=6quo235fv99fhcosm8fa21njg6
Problem solved.
You raised the question of the customer taking Walkers to court in respect of the customer understanding what they were buying.
The weight declaration on the packs is governed by legislation - and would be dealt with by the court on that basis. (finding in favour of Walkers complying with legislation)
Your assertion regarding similar designs being misleading is irrelevant, because multipacks are not similar to individual packs.
If you want to discuss similar designs, then start another thread - multipacks are not similar to individual packs, so this isn't germane to the discussion.
I think that the OP wants a multi-pack at the same price they are now, but with standard bags in it. Something that simply isn't going to happen.
BTW - How did the cereal issue get raised - was it the brand leader complaining, by any chance?
They have not provided any evidence to back up their original accusations. They have made outrageous statements saying the Walkers are giving backhanders to 'Weights and Measures' to ensure that they are not investigated. They also say that Walkers earn an extra £75million profit on multipacks alone (not any other products) and tell us that the majority of people who buy multipacks are not aware that they are smaller bags (this seems even more ridiculous, being that the majority of people on this thread have said that they know exactly what they are buying and eating).
They have not even contacted Walkers to ask them to respond to the accusations. They have not contacted Trading Standards to complain about this either.
They continue with their short sighted campaign and either ignore requests for evidence to back up their story or simply misquote other posters whilst telling people that they because their view is not the same as the OP then they must be in the wrong.
Bearing in mind that the OP did not even know the weight of a bag of Walkers crisps, yet they tell you that Walkers have 'defined' what the weight of a bag of crisps is.
In addition, their 'interesting' way of highlighting a word by adding **'s instead of using the bold or italic facility and by writing FACT, even when they have not been able to prove their statement shows poor form.
Their inability to accept another persons argument only highlights why we should not listen to any further nonsense from them.
If you dont get it you must be thick. Thats all i can think off tbh.
no - they're ****identical***
unlike TESCO cereal where only similarity was colour scheme
ergo if TESCO cereal were outlawed as 'misleading' customer - Walkers 'short-fill' bag are ***definitely*** misleading
the onus would be on manufacturer to prove they're not misleading the customer
if you dont get it, i cant help it
you need to take on board what's already been discussed
you're out anyway
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if that's what you *think*, then you dont understand the thread
so i wont be discussing this with you
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You're already out anyway
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throwing insults is against DS posting policy - hence i dont
why doesn't that suprise me :rolleyes:
tbh all poster are struggling to string something coherent together - but just feel like they should post *something*, any garbage will do, and then they wonder why i poop on it
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