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The next Labour leader? - your bets

Peter EPeter E Posts: 7,746
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We all know Brown will be toast a week by now so who do you think think will be the next labour leader (not caretaker leader).

I think it's between David Miliband and Alan Johnson. Harriet Harman and Ed Balls will throw their hats into the ring but they won't win (well I hope not anyway :D).
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    InspirationInspiration Posts: 62,744
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    Miliband.
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    Pink_PounderPink_Pounder Posts: 13,168
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    As I've said elsewhere, I fancy Johnson to get the role as caretaker for a few years clearing the way for Miliband and doing all the gritty work himself.

    Now would not be the right time for Milliband to take over and the powers that be....well, Peter Mandelson....will realise this and not 'waste' him immediately after Brown.
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    Pisces CloudPisces Cloud Posts: 30,240
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    Harman :p
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 6,207
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    Someone almost human
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    AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,504
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    As I've said elsewhere, I fancy Johnson to get the role as caretaker for a few years clearing the way for Miliband and doing all the gritty work himself.

    Now would not be the right time for Milliband to take over and the powers that be....well, Peter Mandelson....will realise this and not 'waste' him immediately after Brown.

    Johnson wont do it - he has already ruled himself out and said that he hasn't got what it takes to be a leader.

    It's a poisoned chalice.

    Whoever takes the job will have to virtually rebuild the party while all around recriminations rows and depression rule the day.
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    bass55bass55 Posts: 18,508
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    I think it's between Miliband, Johnson or Balls (assuming he keeps his seat).

    My guess: Johnson
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    Radical JoeRadical Joe Posts: 15,743
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    I'd like to see Alan Johnson. He's done a good job so far, knows how to communicate with voters, and would've wiped the floor with Cameron had he been in charge during this election.
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    Pink_PounderPink_Pounder Posts: 13,168
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    Annsyre wrote: »
    Johnson wont do it - he has already ruled himself out and said that he hasn't got what it takes to be a leader.

    With respect that's very silly to bring that up. We really expect people who's job it is and who's duty it is to support their current leader to come out and say "I'll do it!!"

    You must think NOBODY in parliament will ever become the leader of their party because all of them, when asked, will always say that they don't want to.
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    MARTYM8MARTYM8 Posts: 44,710
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    Harriet Harman - cos if Brown stands down she is automatically Leader until a new person is elected.

    I cannot see her standing down as Deputy too voluntarily - she wants the top job.
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    Pink_PounderPink_Pounder Posts: 13,168
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    MARTYM8 wrote: »
    Harriet Harman - cos if Brown stands down she is automatically Leader until a new person is elected.

    I cannot see her standing down as Deputy too voluntarily - she wants the top job.

    I don't think she is actually. I'm sure now 'Deputy Leader' of the labour party has actually constitutionally changed.
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    Radical JoeRadical Joe Posts: 15,743
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    Annsyre wrote: »
    Johnson wont do it - he has already ruled himself out and said that he hasn't got what it takes to be a leader.

    Like he's really going to say otherwise and invite speculation with an election coming up...
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    Peter EPeter E Posts: 7,746
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    Harman :p


    Please no!!! I'm a Labour supporter and would not like her to see hjer as leader. She's even more unpopualr than Brown!! However, Ken Lvingstone was saying on 'This Week' that the Labour party rules state that if the leader steps down the deputy leader automatically becomes the caretaker leader until a leadership election selelcts a new leader!!! :eek:
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    Pink_PounderPink_Pounder Posts: 13,168
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    Peter E wrote: »
    Please no!!! I'm a Labour supporter and would not like her to see hjer as leader. She's even more unpopualr than Brown!! However, Ken Lvingstone was saying on 'This Week' that the Labour party rules state that if the leader steps down the deputy leader automatically becomes the caretaker leader until a leadership election selelcts a new leader!!! :eek:

    If that's the case Mandelson will insist she goes too or else he'll make sure she's deselected as a candidate :p
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,669
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    I can see Miliband doing it in the future but I can't imagine there'll be many in the cabinet stupid enough to want to take over straight after Brown.
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    Peter EPeter E Posts: 7,746
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    MARTYM8 wrote: »
    Harriet Harman - cos if Brown stands down she is automatically Leader until a new person is elected.

    I cannot see her standing down as Deputy too voluntarily - she wants the top job.

    Well Labour do really badly on Thursday I think she might be pushed by Mandy!!

    The problem with Labour are there too many 'hangers-on' who really need to go and make way for new blood and some fresh faces.
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    Pink_PounderPink_Pounder Posts: 13,168
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    I wouldn't have Ed Balls or Harriet Harman in my cabinet.
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    GeegGeeg Posts: 23,338
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    This interesting because for someone like me, outside of the Labour Party, I quite like David Milliband and think of his as the natural next leader. However, my friends within the party scoff at that idea and always mention Alan Johnson as being acceptable to most within the party.
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    Peter EPeter E Posts: 7,746
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    MARTYM8 wrote: »
    Harriet Harman - cos if Brown stands down she is automatically Leader until a new person is elected.

    I cannot see her standing down as Deputy too voluntarily - she wants the top job.

    Well Labour do really badly on Thursday I think she might be pushed!! The problem with Labour are there too many 'hangers-on' who really need to go and make way for new blood and some fresh faces.
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    MARTYM8MARTYM8 Posts: 44,710
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    I don't think she is actually. I'm sure now 'Deputy Leader' of the labour party has actually constitutionally changed.

    She is elected Deputy Leader - so acts as caretaker leader if the leader stands down. As Margaret Beckett did when John Smith died.
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    SpotSpot Posts: 25,143
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    I somehow get the impression that Alan Johnson is one of that rare breed of politician who, when he says he doesn't particularly want the job, he actually means it.

    I think he might be persuaded to do it for a couple of years, then hand over to the next generation - maybe Miliband the elder. Ed Balls will presumably be working for Talksport by then.
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    psionicpsionic Posts: 20,188
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    The Dark Lord himself...
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,060
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    Ed Miliband would be my preferred choice. But it's more likely that Dave will get it.
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    tgsh2006tgsh2006 Posts: 537
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    Peter E wrote: »
    Please no!!! I'm a Labour supporter and would not like her to see hjer as leader. She's even more unpopualr than Brown!! However, Ken Lvingstone was saying on 'This Week' that the Labour party rules state that if the leader steps down the deputy leader automatically becomes the caretaker leader until a leadership election selelcts a new leader!!! :eek:

    She does not become 'caretaker' leader she becomes LEADER! And constitutionally she is entitled to remain in post until the annual election at the Labour Party Conference. It is a misconception that Margaret Beckett was acting leader in 1994. Upon John Smith's death she became leader and it was only with her agreement that the annual election was brought forward from September to July. She could have insisted on remaining in post until the normal party conference of 1994.
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    Pices-55Pices-55 Posts: 18,401
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    I think Balls will get it, and that really is a gruesome thought.
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    -Sid--Sid- Posts: 29,365
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    I'm not averse to Alan Johnson. I hope it's him.

    Not Ed Milliband please. He's awful.
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