Remember when Bianca discovered what was going on between Whitney and Tony? Her initial reaction was to see Whitney as 'the other woman' and see the whole thing as an affair. But she quickly realised what it really was and she wasn't actually the victim of the whole sordid mess. Frustratingly, it seems Glenda never got past that.
That's true, very well remembered, I thought that was bad enough at the time, Glenda is just dispicable.
I loved the way Peggy explained about Ronnie turning down a page and Roxy tearing out a page when they saw something they wanted, without realising that must have been how Glenda knew what to buy.
Was so shocked about Glenda knowing what really happened, did not expect that!
Phil was .. just Phil I could literally smell him through the screen! But I love that black hat of his
Darrren - I couldn't stop laughing at his pain It was so ironic what happened with that other guy, but just so funny I actually thought that other guy was Greg - Tanya's new man.
Zsa Zsa is hilarious, shouting from the window, making a spectacle of herself
Fatboy + Carol - Hahahaha! Totally embarassing but I felt bad for Carol.
Whitney can do so much better than Billie!
I'm really excited for the R+R opening tomorrow night, well the continuation from tonight. It's lovely to see the 'community' feel coming back by mentioning other characters even if we don't see them, such as Christian.
All the same, quality's really improved and good stuff from BK
I don't understand Whitney she was matured because of early age due to her abuser, and is mouthing off wise advice to Ryan... yet when it comes to it she's acting like a 12 year old girl.
Phil, Max & Darren are the only things that have me entertained at the moment, all the other story lines are meh.
I don't understand Whitney she was matured because of early age due to her abuser, and is mouthing off wise advice to Ryan... yet when it comes to it she's acting like a 12 year old girl.
That's hardly uncommon for someone who has been abused, one minute to be mature and jaded for their age, and then overly emotional/stunted in other ways.
She was meant to be ill and then when Phil raids the vic shes at the end of the bar!!
Tut tut EE
I noticed that I definately heard Peggy say she was on her own because Pat had gone shopping and Tracy was off with a bug, but a little while later Tracy was standing at the end of the bar with "friends" and Phil shoved past her after emptying the tills!
But I watched Fridays and Mondays episode last night so I wasn't certain if it was all in the one episode.
loved the fact there was a mirror for glenda of average height,and one placed at just the right height for tweety pie peggy..dont most loos have one big one above the sinks for all sizes?
I loved the way Peggy explained about Ronnie turning down a page and Roxy tearing out a page when they saw something they wanted, without realising that must have been how Glenda knew what to buy.
She did realise, she said all that to Glenda to let her know that she knew exactly how Glenda knew what to buy and it wasn't because she's close to her daughters. She was showing that infact she does know them better than Glenda..
I'm sad they've made Glenda out to be this evil Mum who knew about the abuse and therefore left her children
Peggy's the one who's starting to annoy me :mad:
I'm not sure Peggy has any moral highground on this one - after all didn't she sit back and allow her husband to abuse Phil (and Grant?) for all those years as well?
Love the scenes with Bianca and Carol, the rest was pretty much boring, its amazing how one minute the vic is near empty and then the next episode it completely heaving and the club is just getting smaller and smaller each time its on screen.
Another stupid thing about the whole Darrens penis storyline: Firstly I am pretty sure that the NHS won't circumsize a man unless there are good medical reasons for it, and secondly getting an actual operation date would take months.
If we are supposed to believe that he went private then where on earth is he supposed to have gotten the money to pay for it from?
Another stupid thing about the whole Darrens penis storyline: Firstly I am pretty sure that the NHS won't circumsize a man unless there are good medical reasons for it, and secondly getting an actual operation date would take months.
If we are supposed to believe that he went private then where on earth is he supposed to have gotten the money to pay for it from?
Its EE they don't have to explain, they just assume everyone will take everything for face value, they are not really big on the details or research its obviously a bit of artistic license being used.
I think she's reacting the way a lot of teenage girls would TBH. OK, it might be annoying as hell to watch but quite realistic. Then they move onto another lad (or just fancy another lad) and it's like the one they were heartbroken over never existed!
I really liked the way the Bianca was treating though, no matter what Carol thinks, she really is heartbroken.
Having the op isn't going to make him Jewish, which is basically what Jodie was saying but in a non PC not to be seen racist on the BBC way.
You could be right. But the way I picked it up was that she couldn't go with someone who had a foreskin as she wasn't used to them/they turned her right off. I mean, she knows he's not Jewish so it can't bother her that much. Unless we're going to have a religious conversion storyline?
I NEVER EXPECTED GLENDA TO SPIT IT OUT LIKE THATT!!!
"He replaced me with her!!" :O
Ah! But will she try and say tonight that she meant that Archie had another mistress? She was meaning a fully grown other woman NOT his daugher? To try and wriggle her way out of the fact that she knew that Archie was abusing Ronnie after she'd dropped herself in it?
Sick cow. How could you know that's going on and a) see your daughter as 'your replacement' i.e. the other woman and b) walk out and leave your daughters with an abuser?
It was such a great twist on it wasn't it. Almost like she was jealous of Ronnie, like she was just a mistress. It is reaction all normal mothers would find abhorent (sp?) but sadly that is exactly how some so called mothers do react and it's great of Eastenders to be brave enough to put that spin on it.
I agree. It's amazing how many mothers I've heard about that actually blame their own daughters!! I've even heard stories of older brothers abusing their younger sisters yet when the mothers find out they blame the daughter too! It's a sad fact of life but it happens. Some women are jealous of their own daughters.
loved the fact there was a mirror for glenda of average height,and one placed at just the right height for tweety pie peggy..dont most loos have one big one above the sinks for all sizes?
LOL! Those mirrors were quite funny and it's amazing how they just happened to be there, perfect heights for the two actresses - what a coincidence!
I'm not sure Peggy has any moral highground on this one - after all didn't she sit back and allow her husband to abuse Phil (and Grant?) for all those years as well?
Mmm you might have a point. She said that Phil had started taking beatings for her didn't she? So she herself stayed with an abusive man.
Those older Mitchell brothers were lovely weren't they?
I would love the BBC to make a special set in the days of younger Archie, Peggy, Glenda and whatever Peggy's hubby was called, I've forgotten. A bit like that Only Fools and Horses 'Rock and Chips' programme that they did. IMO it would be really good to see the characters around this pivotal time. They'd have to get the casting right though.
Another stupid thing about the whole Darrens penis storyline: Firstly I am pretty sure that the NHS won't circumsize a man unless there are good medical reasons for it, and secondly getting an actual operation date would take months.
If we are supposed to believe that he went private then where on earth is he supposed to have gotten the money to pay for it from?
But she was like this even when she found out tony was a perv, THE GUY WAS CAUGHT TRYING TO COURT LAUREN FFS & she was still firmly behind him.. ppl here were saying all this nonsense like "tony must have really messed her up thats why" but does that explain the months where she would annoyingly take her anger on bianca.Sniping at her at every turn despite being the one in the wrong?
Its like ppl were so riveted by the pedo story that theyt've built up the character to be something shes not.I remember when she hooked up with billie/belham gang and ppl here were like "whitney is too good for this" I just had to laugh..What the hell has whitney/shona done to be too good for anything? she was the weakest link in the pedo s/l
To me the character just hasnt been the same since tony was released.Its like TPTB thought she was goin to be too similar to stacey so they dumbed her down, instead of the streetwise smart azz we were introduced to.We have a naive/whiney teenager
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How Did Tracy Recover so quickly!!??
She was meant to be ill and then when Phil raids the vic shes at the end of the bar!!
Tut tut EE
That's true, very well remembered, I thought that was bad enough at the time, Glenda is just dispicable.
Have you not heard? VIP now stands for Vile Immature Prats
The ending was brilliant. The reveal is going to be amazing.
its eastenders anythings possible:rolleyes:
Was so shocked about Glenda knowing what really happened, did not expect that!
Phil was .. just Phil
Darrren - I couldn't stop laughing at his pain
Zsa Zsa is hilarious, shouting from the window, making a spectacle of herself
Fatboy + Carol - Hahahaha! Totally embarassing but I felt bad for Carol.
Whitney can do so much better than Billie!
I'm really excited for the R+R opening tomorrow night, well the continuation from tonight. It's lovely to see the 'community' feel coming back by mentioning other characters even if we don't see them, such as Christian.
All the same, quality's really improved and good stuff from BK
Didn't have Carol down as a Doctors fan and not a Daniel lover either:D
My 2nd best soap mentioned in my number 1 soap;)
Brilliant episode tonight
Phill has lost weight:eek:
Loved the Harry Hill line from Peggy
and whitney.Carol and Bianca were quite funny together
Phill and Ranine have worn the same clothes since last monday:eek:
The New R&Rs looks nice just a shame Glenda has to spoil it
Welldone Bryan Kirkwood your actually getting better at cliffhangers:eek:
Glenda knew Archie raped Ronnie she really is an evil person
Lol at darren
8/10 tonight
About Bloody time the BBC rarely promote the show they do run adverts on BBC HD though
He's ugly but does have a nice 6pack:o
Phil, Max & Darren are the only things that have me entertained at the moment, all the other story lines are meh.
That's hardly uncommon for someone who has been abused, one minute to be mature and jaded for their age, and then overly emotional/stunted in other ways.
I noticed that
But I watched Fridays and Mondays episode last night so I wasn't certain if it was all in the one episode.
She did realise, she said all that to Glenda to let her know that she knew exactly how Glenda knew what to buy and it wasn't because she's close to her daughters. She was showing that infact she does know them better than Glenda..
I'm not sure Peggy has any moral highground on this one - after all didn't she sit back and allow her husband to abuse Phil (and Grant?) for all those years as well?
If we are supposed to believe that he went private then where on earth is he supposed to have gotten the money to pay for it from?
Its EE they don't have to explain, they just assume everyone will take everything for face value, they are not really big on the details or research its obviously a bit of artistic license being used.
I think she's reacting the way a lot of teenage girls would TBH. OK, it might be annoying as hell to watch but quite realistic. Then they move onto another lad (or just fancy another lad) and it's like the one they were heartbroken over never existed!
I really liked the way the Bianca was treating though, no matter what Carol thinks, she really is heartbroken.
Have to agree here. Max has come into his own this year. Brilliant character.
You could be right. But the way I picked it up was that she couldn't go with someone who had a foreskin as she wasn't used to them/they turned her right off. I mean, she knows he's not Jewish so it can't bother her that much. Unless we're going to have a religious conversion storyline?
She was being quite gentle with Whitney considering it was Carol! I did find it quite funny though
I agree. It's getting incredibly tedious.
He might show the clip at the beginning of the next series saying that even EE has missed him?
LOL!!!!!!!!!! What's with the bleedin' hat?
Doesn't she just? The clothes were a bit loud but she did look nice.
This is soapland, they're not too fussed about technicalities like that
Exactly! I'd be seriously worried if I thought my wife in her '40's was banging him! Almost paedophilish!
Aw .... it was a rotten thing to say! I've gone off Fatboy again now :mad: Bianca should have handbagged him!!!
Pity Carol never saw her, she wouldn't have felt so old then!
I suppose there's a case for karma here - she's getting back what she gives out.
Me too.
Ah! But will she try and say tonight that she meant that Archie had another mistress? She was meaning a fully grown other woman NOT his daugher? To try and wriggle her way out of the fact that she knew that Archie was abusing Ronnie after she'd dropped herself in it?
Sick cow. How could you know that's going on and a) see your daughter as 'your replacement' i.e. the other woman and b) walk out and leave your daughters with an abuser?
I agree. It's amazing how many mothers I've heard about that actually blame their own daughters!! I've even heard stories of older brothers abusing their younger sisters yet when the mothers find out they blame the daughter too! It's a sad fact of life but it happens. Some women are jealous of their own daughters.
Ha! That's exactly what I said.
LOL! Those mirrors were quite funny and it's amazing how they just happened to be there, perfect heights for the two actresses - what a coincidence!
Mmm you might have a point. She said that Phil had started taking beatings for her didn't she? So she herself stayed with an abusive man.
Those older Mitchell brothers were lovely weren't they?
I would love the BBC to make a special set in the days of younger Archie, Peggy, Glenda and whatever Peggy's hubby was called, I've forgotten. A bit like that Only Fools and Horses 'Rock and Chips' programme that they did. IMO it would be really good to see the characters around this pivotal time. They'd have to get the casting right though.
Soapland again eh?
She never mentioned it at all:rolleyes:
But it's a good start:)
Lusting after Uncle Billie:eek:
I like them and I like Darren and Max:)
He's embarrased about being bald:o
Why
Let's keep religion out of soap;)
He touched him enough:eek:
for the past few years;)
Its like ppl were so riveted by the pedo story that theyt've built up the character to be something shes not.I remember when she hooked up with billie/belham gang and ppl here were like "whitney is too good for this" I just had to laugh..What the hell has whitney/shona done to be too good for anything? she was the weakest link in the pedo s/l
To me the character just hasnt been the same since tony was released.Its like TPTB thought she was goin to be too similar to stacey so they dumbed her down, instead of the streetwise smart azz we were introduced to.We have a naive/whiney teenager