Haha no... I took issue with him telling me I wasn't irish... in who is the more irish pissing contests, of course, i will have to win over an Irish-American, or maybe an Ulster-Fry and Guinness eating contest instead...
As I said, in the end it was all good craic and I left calling him the most irish guy in Boston!
And not everyone has that story. My friend has no conceivable notion of how or why her ancestors decided to head for America.
Ahh but the reason why so many Americans are interested in it is because they know their ancestors were from somewhere else, that's my point. And thus it becomes fascinating to them.
The ones who aren't are usually the WASP Americans, as they were considered the real Americans anyway by default as the establishment in America favoured them and didn't need to look further back to find an identity.
Haha no... I took issue with him telling me I wasn't irish... in who is the more irish pissing contests, of course, i will have to win over an Irish-American, or maybe an Ulster-Fry and Guinness eating contest instead...
As I said, in the end it was all good craic and I left calling him the most irish guy in Boston!
Irishguy, I was specifically talking about this quote
Irishguy, I was specifically talking about this quote
Okay, you caught me on that. I would call them out on it but only jokingly... I honestly really couldnt give a rats ass.
Actually thats not quite true, as it is a compliment that there are so many descendants of immigrants that still want to be labelled as being Irish... I'm pleased that they're proud of their roots rather than finding it an embarrassment.
So what. Are they not allowed to say my great x amount of my parents came from the UK.
Really, I don't see what the problem is at all.
The problem is their apparent ancestral links are flimsy at best. Many of them have little understanding of the culture or geography for the places they claim to be from.
So what. Are they not allowed to say my great x amount of my parents came from the UK.
Really, I don't see what the problem is at all.
That's not really the way they word it though!
My boyfriend is American and when I first met him I thought he was a complete loser because he introduced himself to me as being "Irish". I said "you don't SOUND Irish" before he eventually admitted that his great-great-great-great grandfather might have come from Belfast and this somehow made him Irish.
I don't think you can reasonably claim to be half anything unless either of your parents or, at a push, grandparents are from there.
Can't see the big deal with any of this. Americans often consider their ancestry as it is interesting. I bet the OP wouldn't dare question African Americans if they were born in the US.
If I was Amerkin abroad I'd tell people that I was Canadian to avoid the possible hostility that Amerkins sometimes attract just because of their nationality.
You really need to give it a rest. I've been in the UK for 8 years and I have never claimed to be Canadian because of what some asshole may say to me. I have an American flag that another British person gave to me during the World Cup on my desk.
I've had hassle for being American and I've had hassle for being a female too, but I'm not running off to have a sex change.
As for the OP, I am neither proud nor ashamed to be an American. I just am. I don't put any other nationality before American. I absolutely hate being called an African-American. Black is what I am; I have no connection to the continent of Africa and neither do my family.
Na, I don't really mean it though. I suppose I could consider myself a Northerner by their logic seeing as some of my ancestry is from there, but the fact of the matter is, I've lived in Somerset most of my life so if I considered myself a Northerner then I'd be pretty stupid.
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Haha no... I took issue with him telling me I wasn't irish... in who is the more irish pissing contests, of course, i will have to win over an Irish-American, or maybe an Ulster-Fry and Guinness eating contest instead...
As I said, in the end it was all good craic and I left calling him the most irish guy in Boston!
Ahh but the reason why so many Americans are interested in it is because they know their ancestors were from somewhere else, that's my point. And thus it becomes fascinating to them.
The ones who aren't are usually the WASP Americans, as they were considered the real Americans anyway by default as the establishment in America favoured them and didn't need to look further back to find an identity.
So what. Are they not allowed to say my great x amount of my parents came from the UK.
Really, I don't see what the problem is at all.
Irishguy, I was specifically talking about this quote
You're nationality is whatever country you are a citizen of. And you don't have to be born in that country to be a citizen sometimes.
Okay, you caught me on that. I would call them out on it but only jokingly... I honestly really couldnt give a rats ass.
Actually thats not quite true, as it is a compliment that there are so many descendants of immigrants that still want to be labelled as being Irish... I'm pleased that they're proud of their roots rather than finding it an embarrassment.
The problem is their apparent ancestral links are flimsy at best. Many of them have little understanding of the culture or geography for the places they claim to be from.
That's not the issue! It's when they say "I'm Irish" when they are clearly not. Their "great x amount of parents" came from the UK. Not them.
I mean come on, every 'Irish' person should at least know what/where Belfast is. It's one of the capitals of the country FFS.
That's not really the way they word it though!
My boyfriend is American and when I first met him I thought he was a complete loser because he introduced himself to me as being "Irish". I said "you don't SOUND Irish" before he eventually admitted that his great-great-great-great grandfather might have come from Belfast and this somehow made him Irish.
I don't think you can reasonably claim to be half anything unless either of your parents or, at a push, grandparents are from there.
(he won me round though, obviously
I would if they said they're Irish.
Nothing at all. It only become a problem when they all start claiming they're Scottish too.
Don't forget Obama is Kenyan-Irish!
Why is it a problem? I can think of a lot bigger problems in the world than things like this. God some people take this too seriously.
In all seriousness nationality is a load of crap anyway. It's just a made up load of tosh created by humans. Does a cat know if it's in 'England'?
No, nationality is just another made up creation by humans, just like religion. No need to get hung up about it of course.
Claiming that their family came from Scotland, when they did.
What is wrong with that?
We've been through this. He's AMERICAN! :mad:
It's not a problem. It only becomes a problem if they start claiming they're Scottish themselves, which I said.
So it's not Americans who refer to themselves as coming from somewhere other than America that bugs you? Just those who say they are Irish?
That was meant tongue in cheek but yes it would bug me if they said they were Scottish or whatever.
Why? It's just nationality. You need to travel the world more and realise nationality isn't as simple as you make it out. Who f**kin cares?
You really need to give it a rest. I've been in the UK for 8 years and I have never claimed to be Canadian because of what some asshole may say to me. I have an American flag that another British person gave to me during the World Cup on my desk.
I've had hassle for being American and I've had hassle for being a female too, but I'm not running off to have a sex change.
As for the OP, I am neither proud nor ashamed to be an American. I just am. I don't put any other nationality before American. I absolutely hate being called an African-American. Black is what I am; I have no connection to the continent of Africa and neither do my family.
"Because they're stupid!"
Na, I don't really mean it though. I suppose I could consider myself a Northerner by their logic seeing as some of my ancestry is from there, but the fact of the matter is, I've lived in Somerset most of my life so if I considered myself a Northerner then I'd be pretty stupid.
Try googling Khazar jews