That's worse than anything he's ever said and clearly not intended to be anything but vicious. Another 'holier-than-though-er' who acts much worse than Boyle. Interesting trend.
Oh dear. And I thought Boyle fans loved sick humour.
The issue isnt really whether its funny. Its not one of his best IMO but than we dont all find the same things funny. Hence why people should watch what they do find funny and not watch what they dont.
that's my point, his so called joke is repulsive and distasteful but what really shocks me is that some on this forum haven't picked up on that yet. heaven forbid if paedophilia is seen as normal and something to joke about.
that's my point, his so called joke is repulsive and distasteful but what really shocks me is that some on this forum haven't picked up on that yet. heaven forbid if paedophilia is seen as normal and something to joke about.
Who said it was 'normal'? Will not joking about it stop paedophilia?
that's my point, his so called joke is repulsive and distasteful but what really shocks me is that some on this forum haven't picked up on that yet. heaven forbid if paedophilia is seen as normal and something to joke about.
ANYTHING can be a joke. It just comes down to personal taste. I have heard many jokes on topics where the reality is distasteful/repulsive/illegal but the actual joke itself is funny.
It is relatively easy to divorce reality from what is effectively a line or two in a tv show.
I agree the toruble with a lot of modern day society is a lot of people become offended on behalf of somebody else,ie it does not affect them personally.
I gotta agree with that. I don't find racist jokes funny, but I think people can joke about race and be hilarious. There is this one comedian who is white and jokes about visiting his black girlfriend in her neighborhood and it is hysterical. Some people could find it racist, but it was really, really funny. I happen to find Frankie Boyle hilarious.
As far as his joke, well, it wasn't funny to me because the kid's disabled, it just kind of died on its arse.
I'm going to probably piss a lot of people off, but Harvey, and any other disabled child is no more special than any other kid. They have special needs that of course need to be catered for, and they need to be treated equally. However, they are not above anyone else. I work with a blind guy who is a bit of an asshole. Loads of people make concessions for him because of his disability, but if he is able to do his job, then outside of equipment needs, he gets treated like everyone else.
Would anyone be upset if he made a joke about any other kid? In fact, I rarely hear jokes about disabled people, but I hear some serious anti-women jokes. I don't listen to those comedians, same as when I found something on South Park utterly foul, I stopped watching it. I didn't call for the show to be pulled.
I gotta agree with that. I don't find racist jokes funny, but I think people can joke about race and be hilarious. There is this one comedian who is white and jokes about visiting his black girlfriend in her neighborhood and it is hysterical. Some people could find it racist, but it was really, really funny. I happen to find Frankie Boyle hilarious.
As far as his joke, well, it wasn't funny to me because the kid's disabled, it just kind of died on its arse.
I'm going to probably piss a lot of people off, but Harvey, and any other disabled child is no more special than any other kid. They have special needs that of course need to be catered for, and they need to be treated equally. However, they are not above anyone else. I work with a blind guy who is a bit of an asshole. Loads of people make concessions for him because of his disability, but if he is able to do his job, then outside of equipment needs, he gets treated like everyone else.
Would anyone be upset if he made a joke about any other kid? In fact, I rarely hear jokes about disabled people, but I hear some serious anti-women jokes. I don't listen to those comedians, same as when I found something on South Park utterly foul, I stopped watching it. I didn't call for the show to be pulled.
I tend to agree with a lot of that.
There is a point where the discrimination occurs when the joke isnt made for fear reasons.
You can tell the Irish joke...or can you?
The joke about the Black person? Dodgy
The joke about the white person? Not so much
Tell a joke involving a black person and you are racist.
Tell a joke about a white person and you are Chris Rock.
Only if it's aimed at someone else. If they or Boyle get it back at them they become sensitive ickle flowers.
But that wasn't a joke and it had no context. Making a joke about something distasteful, on a comedy programme, by a comedian that is known for offensive humor is different from someone wishing cancer on people just because they didn't like the comedian.
Some of the people that I've met that have the sickest senses of humour are:
Nurses
Cops
Firemen
Crime reporters
Undertakers
Any of them could outsick Frankie Boyle at a moment's notice.
ANYTHING can be a joke. It just comes down to personal taste. I have heard many jokes on topics where the reality is distasteful/repulsive/illegal but the actual joke itself is funny.
It is relatively easy to divorce reality from what is effectively a line or two in a tv show.
so your saying a 8 year old shagging his mother can be rated as a joke, who in their right mind can laugh at such a distasteful subject
There is a point where the discrimination occurs when the joke isnt made for fear reasons.
You can tell the Irish joke...or can you?
The joke about the Black person? Dodgy
The joke about the white person? Not so much
Tell a joke involving a black person and you are racist.
Tell a joke about a white person and you are Chris Rock.
It's the "court-jester" thing. I don't think it's racist for white people to joke about black people, but it has to be done with some serious skill. I laughed like a drain at a white comedian that was talking about the difference between white and black strippers.
Perhaps what could have been construed as the most racist joke Chris Rock ever told was about black people. The Black People v N***ers was seriously controversial, but funny as hell, and if you are black, true. I think he makes fun of race and racial politics more than white people themselves.
so your saying a 8 year old shagging his mother can be rated as a joke, who in their right mind can laugh at such a distasteful subject
people who laugh at it, i think theres a bandwagon and some are jumping onto it like the ross/brand incident.
Its amazing i saw the bloke in october and he did the same gag and got laughs, the DVD the same joke is on there and because it was shown on tv its now wrong???
When the tour/dvd started where were the daily mail readers then? Lets all jump on the bandwagon and look down on people:rolleyes:
I'm going to probably piss a lot of people off, but Harvey, and any other disabled child is no more special than any other kid. They have special needs that of course need to be catered for, and they need to be treated equally. However, they are not above anyone else. I work with a blind guy who is a bit of an asshole. Loads of people make concessions for him because of his disability, but if he is able to do his job, then outside of equipment needs, he gets treated like everyone else.
Would anyone be upset if he made a joke about any other kid?
While agreeing in principle with all of your post, the key reason why this one fell so badly flat is that Harvey has already had an unreasonable amount of internet abuse from people based on his physical appearance. I have seen him described in the most inhumane terms, much of it to do with his size and perceived physical strength. For Boyle to pick up on this and translate it into a joke about him being some 'sex-crazed monster' just fuels the existing hate directed at a disabled kid whose only crime is being the child of a pair of media ****. To add to that, the implication that he is an unwanted burden (loser would gain custody) just fuels a level of hate that I and I guess a lot of other people on this thread and elsewhere find deeply upsetting on his behalf. You don't have to know someone to feel rage at their being the subject of someone's oh so casual cruelty. It's just basic human empathy.
While agreeing in principle with all of your post, the key reason why this one fell so badly flat is that Harvey has already had an unreasonable amount of internet abuse from people based on his physical appearance. I have seen him described in the most inhumane terms, much of it to do with his size and perceived physical strength. For Boyle to pick up on this and translate it into a joke about him being some 'sex-crazed monster' just fuels the existing hate directed at a disabled kid whose only crime is being the child of a pair of media ****. To add to that, the implication that he is an unwanted burden (loser would gain custody) just fuels a level of hate that I and I guess a lot of other people on this thread and elsewhere find deeply upsetting on his behalf. You don't have to know someone to feel rage at their being the subject of someone's oh so casual cruelty. It's just basic human empathy.
so your saying al those people who laugh at this joke are immoral and stupid
No, im saying that the people who laugh arent actually condoning the reality of an 8 year old having sex with their mother. An act which i would suggest is physically impossible in the first place.
I watched and enjoyed the Italian Job without actually believing that its ok to rob a bank.
While agreeing in principle with all of your post, the key reason why this one fell so badly flat is that Harvey has already had an unreasonable amount of internet abuse from people based on his physical appearance. I have seen him described in the most inhumane terms, much of it to do with his size and perceived physical strength. For Boyle to pick up on this and translate it into a joke about him being some 'sex-crazed monster' just fuels the existing hate directed at a disabled kid whose only crime is being the child of a pair of media ****. To add to that, the implication that he is an unwanted burden (loser would gain custody) just fuels a level of hate that I and I guess a lot of other people on this thread and elsewhere find deeply upsetting on his behalf. You don't have to know someone to feel rage at their being the subject of someone's oh so casual cruelty. It's just basic human empathy.
It's really as simple as that for me.
Absolutely right and very well put!
i remember the Heat 'joke' with the sticker saying 'Harvey ate me' or some such witticism. That was along the same lines and equally as distasteful imo.
No, im saying that the people who laugh arent actually condoning the reality of an 8 year old having sex with their mother. An act which i would suggest is physically impossible in the first place.
I watched and enjoyed the Italian Job without actually believing that its ok to rob a bank.
so you'll agree with me boyle has a sick immorral mind
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Oh dear. And I thought Boyle fans loved sick humour.
that's my point, his so called joke is repulsive and distasteful but what really shocks me is that some on this forum haven't picked up on that yet. heaven forbid if paedophilia is seen as normal and something to joke about.
I was pointing out the hypocrisy in making such statements while bashing someone else for doing it.
Who said it was 'normal'? Will not joking about it stop paedophilia?
ANYTHING can be a joke. It just comes down to personal taste. I have heard many jokes on topics where the reality is distasteful/repulsive/illegal but the actual joke itself is funny.
It is relatively easy to divorce reality from what is effectively a line or two in a tv show.
I gotta agree with that. I don't find racist jokes funny, but I think people can joke about race and be hilarious. There is this one comedian who is white and jokes about visiting his black girlfriend in her neighborhood and it is hysterical. Some people could find it racist, but it was really, really funny. I happen to find Frankie Boyle hilarious.
As far as his joke, well, it wasn't funny to me because the kid's disabled, it just kind of died on its arse.
I'm going to probably piss a lot of people off, but Harvey, and any other disabled child is no more special than any other kid. They have special needs that of course need to be catered for, and they need to be treated equally. However, they are not above anyone else. I work with a blind guy who is a bit of an asshole. Loads of people make concessions for him because of his disability, but if he is able to do his job, then outside of equipment needs, he gets treated like everyone else.
Would anyone be upset if he made a joke about any other kid? In fact, I rarely hear jokes about disabled people, but I hear some serious anti-women jokes. I don't listen to those comedians, same as when I found something on South Park utterly foul, I stopped watching it. I didn't call for the show to be pulled.
Only if it's aimed at someone else. If they or Boyle get it back at them they become sensitive ickle flowers.
Wrong again, post #131.
I tend to agree with a lot of that.
There is a point where the discrimination occurs when the joke isnt made for fear reasons.
You can tell the Irish joke...or can you?
The joke about the Black person? Dodgy
The joke about the white person? Not so much
Tell a joke involving a black person and you are racist.
Tell a joke about a white person and you are Chris Rock.
They dont. They dont care. However they may point out the irony of the perma-offended being offensive.
But that wasn't a joke and it had no context. Making a joke about something distasteful, on a comedy programme, by a comedian that is known for offensive humor is different from someone wishing cancer on people just because they didn't like the comedian.
Some of the people that I've met that have the sickest senses of humour are:
Nurses
Cops
Firemen
Crime reporters
Undertakers
Any of them could outsick Frankie Boyle at a moment's notice.
so your saying a 8 year old shagging his mother can be rated as a joke, who in their right mind can laugh at such a distasteful subject
It's the "court-jester" thing. I don't think it's racist for white people to joke about black people, but it has to be done with some serious skill. I laughed like a drain at a white comedian that was talking about the difference between white and black strippers.
Perhaps what could have been construed as the most racist joke Chris Rock ever told was about black people. The Black People v N***ers was seriously controversial, but funny as hell, and if you are black, true. I think he makes fun of race and racial politics more than white people themselves.
Quite a few people. I've heard firemen refer to people burned up in houses as "crispy critters."
people who laugh at it, i think theres a bandwagon and some are jumping onto it like the ross/brand incident.
Its amazing i saw the bloke in october and he did the same gag and got laughs, the DVD the same joke is on there and because it was shown on tv its now wrong???
When the tour/dvd started where were the daily mail readers then? Lets all jump on the bandwagon and look down on people:rolleyes:
Yes i am saying anything can be a joke.
The clever peopleare able to differentiate between the telling of the joke and the actual act.
While agreeing in principle with all of your post, the key reason why this one fell so badly flat is that Harvey has already had an unreasonable amount of internet abuse from people based on his physical appearance. I have seen him described in the most inhumane terms, much of it to do with his size and perceived physical strength. For Boyle to pick up on this and translate it into a joke about him being some 'sex-crazed monster' just fuels the existing hate directed at a disabled kid whose only crime is being the child of a pair of media ****. To add to that, the implication that he is an unwanted burden (loser would gain custody) just fuels a level of hate that I and I guess a lot of other people on this thread and elsewhere find deeply upsetting on his behalf. You don't have to know someone to feel rage at their being the subject of someone's oh so casual cruelty. It's just basic human empathy.
It's really as simple as that for me.
so your saying al those people who laugh at this joke are immoral and stupid
Me too - excellent post lexi, my sentiments too!
No, im saying that the people who laugh arent actually condoning the reality of an 8 year old having sex with their mother. An act which i would suggest is physically impossible in the first place.
I watched and enjoyed the Italian Job without actually believing that its ok to rob a bank.
Absolutely right and very well put!
i remember the Heat 'joke' with the sticker saying 'Harvey ate me' or some such witticism. That was along the same lines and equally as distasteful imo.
so you'll agree with me boyle has a sick immorral mind
Im struggling as to how you can read something and then randomly post something completely randomly different and claim that it is what i am saying?